31 episodes
- Is there such a thing as safe social media for kids? If so, what does it actually take to build it?
This week, Melissa and Esther are joined by Leah Ringelstein, co-founder and CEO of Zigazoo, the kid-safe social media app designed to help children create mindfully instead of scroll. Before launching Zigazoo, Leah taught in Phoenix, Tanzania, and the Bronx, experiences that shaped her vision for a healthier online space for kids.
Leah shares how Zigazoo moderates every video before it reaches the feed, how the platform encourages kids to lead with positivity, and how its moderation system uses a detailed behaviour matrix to flag everything from inappropriate language to subtle sarcasm.
Beyond the inner workings of the app, the conversation explores the stigma parents face when letting kids use social media, and how platforms like Zigazoo can serve as a "practice playground" for building a healthier relationship with it. Leah explains how the app fosters digital citizenship and creativity instead of endless consumption, using positive role models to inspire kindness and empathy in young creators.
If you're wondering how to keep kids safe online, what healthy social media for kids could look like, or whether there really is a better alternative to TikTok and other platforms for children, this episode is for you.
Learn more about Zigazoo;
https://www.zigazoo.com/
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Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. - This week, Esther and Melissa dive into the world of YouTube, AI slop, and the challenge of finding healthier media for kids. After creating their own low-stimulation kids’ channel, Studio Pok Pok, and navigating the YouTube Kids approval process, they question how so much low-quality content still reaches children and who should be responsible for changing that.
They share why neither family uses YouTube Kids at home, how content being on the platform doesn’t guarantee quality, and the problem with autoplay. They also unpack real examples of AI-generated kids’ content, from alphabet videos missing letters to confusing traffic safety lessons like “green means turn right.”
Beyond YouTube and AI, Esther and Melissa get personal about struggling with their own phone habits and how being the first generation to grow up alongside this technology shapes the concerns we have for our kids.
While this conversation may not leave you with answers, it offers honesty, reassurance, and new perspectives for families trying to build a healthier relationship with the media their kids consume.
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Pok Pok helps raise the next generation of creative thinkers through non-addictive digital tools that encourage kids to think outside the box and learn through play.
Learn more: https://playpokpok.com
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Identity After Kids, Birth Stories, and Redesigning Maternity Clothes with Sam Doll
07/09/2026 | 49 mins.Sam Doll is a musician, writer, filmmaker, and creator with over a million followers online. In this episode about finding yourself after kids, Sam joins Melissa and Esther to talk about the identity shift that comes with motherhood, postpartum struggles, and how becoming a mom has changed the way she shows up online.
Inspired by sharing their birth stories, they unpack why so much of parenting can feel like a competition and why the hard parts are talked about more than the joys of parenthood.
Sam also shares the story behind Riot Bbby, the maternity clothing line she created after getting frustrated with poorly designed maternity clothes.
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Pok Pok helps raise the next generation of creative thinkers through non-addictive digital tools that encourage kids to think outside the box and learn through play.
Learn more: https://playpokpok.com
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.- Courtney Phillips Spoehr, senior creative executive at Calm, joins Melissa and Esther to talk about summer parenting stress and the pressure of the “18 summers” mindset.
This conversation explores what real summer parenting looks like behind the highlight reel—from juggling work meetings, summer camps, and travel logistics to the guilt of not feeling present enough amid the overstimulation of the season.
They unpack the cultural pressure to “make every summer magical” and how that expectation often clashes with parents’ mental health and capacity. Each mom shares honest reflections on staying regulated in hard moments, what repair looks like after losing patience with your kids, and how it’s okay to grieve that things aren’t always as easy as we’d hoped.
Despite the pressure to create the best family memories, they point out how these often happen in the unplanned in-between moments. By protecting alone time and having realistic expectations, we can feel more present for the meaningful moments we’ve been chasing all along.
Learn more about our summer campaign with Calm:
https://playpokpok.com/blog/this-summer-myth-gives-parents-core-memory-anxiety/
Write in to us at hello@parentingapparently.com
Subscribe and follow Parenting, Apparently, a podcast by Melissa Cash, Esther Huybreghts, and the Pok Pok team:
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Pok Pok YouTube
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Pok Pok helps raise the next generation of creative thinkers through non-addictive digital tools that encourage kids to think outside the box and learn through play.
Learn more: https://playpokpok.com
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. - Freya Lyon — known online as The Queer Mama — joins Melissa for a chat about queer parenting, donor conception, and how to answer kids’ questions honestly about identity, death, and their bodies.
Freya grew up donor-conceived in a two-mom family and is now raising her own two donor-conceived children with her wife, offering a second-generation perspective on queer family building.
In this episode, the pair explore raising children when the world outside the home doesn’t always reflect their values — inspired by Freya’s personal example of her daughter’s school potentially pulling back LGBTQ+ inclusion.
Freya shares how she’s navigating advocating for her family while not wanting to become “that parent at the school gates,” or intrude on her child’s safe space and autonomy.
They also cover topics like:
Does being honest with kids help or confuse them more?
Why Freya’s post about donor conception honesty went viral
The intentionality that comes with creating queer families
Book recommendations for talking to kids about diversity and inclusion
Follow Freya at:
https://www.instagram.com/thequeermama/?hl=en
And check out her book recommendations:
Mai Story Book Library - https://www.instagram.com/maistorybooklibrary/
Lucy Catchpole - https://thecatchpoles.net/books-by-lucy-and-james-catchpole/
Nosy Crow - https://nosycrow.us/
Julia Donaldson - https://www.juliadonaldson.co.uk/
Write in to us at hello@parentingapparently.com
Subscribe and follow Parenting, Apparently, a podcast by Melissa Cash, Esther Huybreghts, and the Pok Pok team:
YouTube
Pok Pok YouTube
Instagram
Pok Pok helps raise the next generation of creative thinkers through non-addictive digital tools that encourage kids to think outside the box and learn through play.
Learn more: https://playpokpok.com
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Parenthood doesn't come with instructions, and neither does building a company. Melissa and Esther are figuring out both on opposite sides of the world, as friends and founders of award-winning kids’ media brand Pok Pok.Since 2021, running Pok Pok has been a front-row seat to the inner world of parents: the real wins that don’t make it to Instagram, as well as the unspoken fears and questions that everyone is waiting for someone else to say first. Parenting, apparently, is a space to come together and take the pressure off parenthood by celebrating the fact that there is no “right” way of doing it. Each episode is a reminder that you’re not supposed to have all the answers, but that the way to get closer to them is by getting curious.Whether Melissa and Esther are sharing their own “WTF” moments, reflecting in real time, or passing the mic to guests from the community, you’re invited to come get curious about your own parenting journey. We may not have a manual for this thing, but we do have the creative freedom to make our own along the way.Follow us on Instagram!Watch us on Youtube!And check out Pok Pok! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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