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Brooke Eliason
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  • 86. How To Make Phenomenal Ice Cream From Home With Salt & Straw’s Co-Founder Tyler Malek
    Join thousands of other listeners on our Substack, The Foodletter!   In this deliciously rich episode, Brooke reconnects with Tyler Malek, the mastermind behind Salt & Straw's imaginative and story-driven ice cream flavors. Tyler returns to discuss his new cookbook, Salt & Straw: America's Most Iconic Ice Creams, sharing the philosophy, process, and passion behind the recipes. From tales of starting with used ice cream machines to building one of the most beloved small-batch ice cream brands in the country, this episode offers listeners a behind-the-scenes look at what makes Salt & Straw so unique. Whether you’re a culinary nerd, ice cream lover, or creative entrepreneur, there’s something here for you.   Key Takeaways (01:40) Ice Cream as Storytelling: Tyler’s passion lies in using ice cream to convey stories and create memorable experiences—not just serve dessert. (07:07) Company Growth Without Compromise: Salt & Straw continues expanding with care, maintaining quality and culture while scaling responsibly. (09:29) New Book Launch: Tyler’s new cookbook, launching April 29th, breaks down 10 iconic American ice creams, teaching foundational techniques and offering endless riffs. (11:21) Cookbook Design Philosophy: The book is meant to be a source of both inspiration and education—whether you're making the recipes or just absorbing the creative energy. (22:29) Ice Cream Base Varieties Explained: The book includes five base recipes: classic sweet cream, custard, gelato, vegan coconut, and sorbet—each suited to different flavor expressions. (25:41) Equipment Tips for Home Cooks: Tyler shares pros and cons of various ice cream makers, from frozen bowl models to internal compressor machines like the Breville. (44:24) Why Pistachio Ice Cream is So Hard to Nail: Real pistachio flavor (vs. extract) is subtle and finicky—Tyler explains how the gelato base helps it shine through.   Notable Quotes (01:40) “I’m passionate about telling stories and conveying unique experiences through ice cream.” (03:55) “We’re not just creating a dessert—we’re creating a moment.” (11:21) “Cookbooks are like portals. You might not make every recipe, but they teach you how to see and taste differently.” (20:11) “Ice cream is more like making soup than pastry—get the base right, and the rest is play.”   Resources Get Tyler’s brand new cookbook: America's Most Iconic Ice Creams Grab Tyler’s First Book: Salt & Straw Ice Cream Cookbook Find a Salt & Straw location near you Follow Salt & Straw on Instagram Follow Female Foodie on Instagram
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  • 85. 5 Things That Expert Travelers Do
    Join thousands of other listeners on our Substack, The Foodletter!   In this solo episode, Brooke comes to you from Florence, Italy to share six essential practices that expert travelers live by. Drawing from her personal travel experiences and years of leading Female Foodie Tours across Italy, Brooke offers practical, heartfelt advice for building memorable, stress-free trips. Whether you’re planning your first international adventure or you're a seasoned jet-setter, this episode is packed with tools to help you travel smarter, embrace culture, and enjoy meaningful, magical moments.   Key Takeaways [03:13] Prioritize Your Priorities: Don’t just list your must-dos—schedule them. Make time for the experiences that matter most so you don’t leave with regrets. [05:12] Don’t Overschedule: Leave room for spontaneity and wandering. Some of the best travel moments happen in the unscheduled margins of your day. [10:03] Pack the Essentials: Bring comfortable walking shoes, rain gear, a battery pack, and other key items that make a huge difference in your daily experience. [17:12] When in Rome, Do as the Romans Do: Embrace local culture without comparison. Whether it’s how people cross the street or the lack of ice in your drink—lean into it. [19:40] Try New Things: Step out of your comfort zone. Whether it’s trying pork cheek or fried calamari, travel is the perfect time to expand your palate and perspective. [23:42] Maintain a Good Attitude: Not everything will go perfectly. A flexible mindset turns unexpected hiccups into favorite memories.   Notable Quotes (02:30) “Time is our greatest asset, and we don’t get it back. That’s why our travel should be intentional and memorable.”  (06:39) “Some of the best travel moments happen in the margins—when we let go and allow life to surprise us.” (23:42) “A good attitude is everything. It’s what makes the trip one you’ll cherish forever.” (19:47) “You’ll never know unless you try. And that’s true for food, experiences, and life.”   Resources Magnetic Power Bank Claire Sneaker Follow Female Foodie on Instagram
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  • 84. How To Beat Jet Lag Like A Pro
    To get 2026 Female Foodie Tours info before anyone else, becoming a paying subscriber to The Foodletter.    In this solo episode of That Was Delicious, Brooke shares her tried-and-true strategies for overcoming jet lag—gleaned from years of frequent travel across Europe, Asia, Africa, and beyond. Whether you're planning your dream vacation or returning home from a whirlwind trip, Brooke offers practical, honest, and experience-backed advice to help you feel like yourself faster in a new time zone. From the importance of getting sunlight to using caffeine strategically and knowing when (and when not) to nap, this episode is packed with real-world insights. Bonus: Brooke shares personal travel stories—including a memorable mishap involving a rental car in Italy—and helpful sleep aid recommendations.   Key Takeaways (03:50) Jump Into the Local Time Zone Immediately: Avoid thinking about your home time zone. Live in the current time of your destination from the moment you land. (05:44) Avoid Overexertion on Arrival Day: Don’t schedule major travel or activities right after you land. Keep it light and easy to avoid exhaustion-related mistakes. (07:11) Get Outside and Move: Sunlight and movement are crucial in resetting your circadian rhythm. Even a short walk can help your body adjust faster. (08:45) Avoid Napping—Especially on Day One: Naps can severely disrupt your adjustment. If absolutely necessary, keep them short (10–45 minutes) and only after the first day. (15:16) Strategic Use of Caffeine: Caffeine can help you power through the day. Choose what works for you (coffee, soda, etc.) to stay alert when needed. (16:20) Sleep Smart on the Plane: Align your in-flight sleep with your destination’s local time. Use sleep aids if necessary—but never try new medications for the first time mid-flight. (19:33) Plan with Kids in Mind: If traveling with children, consult your pediatrician for tips to help them adjust their sleep schedules too.   Notable Quotes (02:26) “Your time and experiences are so valuable. We want to minimize jet lag so you can dive right in and enjoy your destination.”  (09:09) “Avoid napping on day one at all costs. It will be the hardest nap you’ll ever have to wake up from.” (08:03) “There’s something about getting outside and in the sun that just resets you—it works wonders for jet lag.”  (16:08) “Use caffeine to stay awake when you need to. Pick your poison and don’t be afraid to lean on it during those rough days.”   Resources Follow Female Foodie on Instagram
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  • 83. Laurel Evans: From Texas To Milan For 20+ Years As A Cookbook Author, TV Host, & Recipe Developer [Updated]
    Join thousands of other listeners on our Substack, The Foodletter!   In this episode of That Was Delicious, Brooke sits down with cookbook author, recipe developer, and television host Laurel Evans. Born and raised in Texas, Laurel moved to Milan over 20 years ago and has since built a fascinating career bridging American and Italian cuisine. From her early days of culture shock and learning the language to becoming a well-known voice in Italian food media, Laurel shares her journey, insights on Italian food culture, and what it’s like raising a family in Italy. She also discusses her cookbooks, including Liguria: The Cookbook, her experience on CNN’s Searching for Italy, and her upcoming Liguria retreats in 2025. If you love food, travel, and cultural deep dives, this episode is a must-listen!   Key Takeaways [07:17] Laurel’s Journey to Italy Originally from Texas, she moved to Milan in 2004 after meeting her now-husband, Emilio. The transition was challenging, especially navigating Italian bureaucracy and mastering the language. [12:05] Italian Bureaucracy & Cultural Differences Italy’s bureaucracy can be frustrating, with conflicting information and unclear processes. The Italian mentality of l’arte di arrangiarsi (“the art of getting by”) explains the country’s flexible, often chaotic approach to rules and regulations. [23:23] Italian Food Culture vs. American Food Culture Laurel initially felt pressure to cook only Italian food but later embraced her American culinary roots. She introduced American classics like brownies and burgers to Italian friends, sparking curiosity about American cuisine. [25:00] Writing Cookbooks & Breaking into Italian Food Media Laurel’s first book, Buon Appetito America, introduced Italians to American home cooking. Despite imposter syndrome, she went on to publish multiple cookbooks, culminating in Liguria: The Cookbook. [34:10] Why Liguria’s Cuisine is Underrated People visit Liguria for the scenery (Cinque Terre, Portofino) but overlook its incredible food. Dishes like pesto, focaccia, and seafood-based dishes are must-tries in the region. [39:50] Being Featured on Searching for Italy Laurel was part of the Liguria episode of Stanley Tucci’s CNN series. The production team was highly invested in authenticity, showcasing the region’s food in a genuine way. [43:31] Raising Kids in Italy vs. the U.S. The biggest difference is city vs. rural life—Laurel grew up on a ranch, but her kids are raised in urban Milan. Italy’s family-oriented culture and sense of safety make it a great place to raise children. [46:42] Advice for American Tourists in Italy Travel deeper—don’t try to see everything in one trip. Spend more time in fewer places and engage with locals for a richer experience.   Notable Quotes (02:29) “Italy and Texas actually have a lot in common—deep-rooted traditions, pride in where you’re from, and a strong connection to food and family.” (23:15) “When I first moved to Italy, I was terrified people would judge my cooking and think, ‘Of course, the American overcooked the pasta!’” (12:05) “Italian bureaucracy is like a puzzle with missing pieces—you just have to keep pushing until it works.” (39:50) “When I was featured on Searching for Italy, I loved that they truly cared about getting it right, not just making a TV show.”   Resources Get a copy of Laurel’s cookbook, Liguria Visit Laurel’s Website for books, recipes, and retreats: www.laurelevans.com Follow Laurel on Instagram Follow Female Foodie on Instagram
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  • 82. AI’s Most-Asked Italy Travel Questions, Answered (Part Two)
    Join thousands of other listeners on our Substack, The Foodletter!   In this episode of That Was Delicious, Brooke continues her two-part series on answering the most commonly asked questions about traveling in Italy. She shares practical insights on Italian dining etiquette, tipping culture, how to find the best non-touristy restaurants, and transportation tips. Brooke also dives into cultural nuances, shopping recommendations, and essential travel advice to ensure a smooth and enjoyable experience in Italy. Whether you're planning your first trip or are a seasoned traveler, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways to enhance your journey.   Key Takeaways [02:10] Dining Etiquette & Coperto (Cover Charge) Restaurants in Italy often charge a "coperto," a small fee covering bread, utensils, and service. It typically ranges from 1–3 euros but can be higher in major cities. Even if you don’t eat the bread, you’ll still be charged. [03:14] Meal Times & Restaurant Culture Italians eat dinner much later than in the U.S., typically starting at 7 PM or later. Pizzerias and bakeries can be great options for early meals or snacks when restaurants are closed. [10:44] Tipping in Italy Unlike the U.S., tipping is not expected but is appreciated. Rounding up the bill or leaving 1–2 euros per person is customary. Cash tips are preferred, as most card machines do not include a tip option. [07:55] Interacting with Waitstaff Servers in Italy will not check in frequently like in the U.S. To get a waiter’s attention, simply make eye contact or raise a hand instead of expecting them to anticipate your needs. [14:38] How to Find the Best Restaurants Ask locals, including Airbnb hosts, hotel concierges, and taxi drivers. Use AI tools like ChatGPT to find non-touristy dining options. Check out Female Foodie for curated food guides. [17:37] Cultural Norms & Common Mistakes Avoid ordering cappuccino after 11 AM—Italians typically drink it only in the morning. Bread is meant for dipping into sauces, not for snacking before a meal (this practice is called la scarpetta). Italians value slow, unrushed meals—don't expect quick service. [25:20] Transportation & Taxis Many buses now accept tap pay, making public transport more convenient. Always take a taxi from a designated taxi stand or have a restaurant call one—never accept rides from drivers approaching you. Apps like Trainline are great for booking train tickets in advance. [24:32] Shopping & VAT Refunds Great souvenirs include high-quality pasta, olive oil, balsamic vinegar, and leather goods. VAT refunds are mainly worth pursuing for high-value purchases (e.g., luxury bags), not small items. [35:48] Using Credit Cards & Cash Visa and MasterCard are widely accepted, while American Express is less common. Always carry some euros in cash for small transactions and tipping. ATMs connected to banks are the safest places to withdraw cash. [31:39] Health & Travel Insurance Travel insurance can be helpful in case of medical issues or cancellations. Pharmacies in Italy are well-stocked and many pharmacists speak English. The emergency number in Italy is 112.   Notable Quotes (05:10) “Italians don’t eat in a rush. Meals are about presence and gratitude, not just the food itself.” (16:44) “You don’t need to learn Italian, but a few key phrases—like ‘grazie’ and ‘buongiorno’—go a long way.” (17:37) “Ordering a cappuccino after 11 AM might get you some looks—Italians believe dairy is for the morning!” (28:37) “Never, ever take a taxi from someone who approaches you at the airport. Always use official taxi stands.”   Resources Alessandro Frassica: Florence’s Best Panino & The Story Behind Ino How To Win At Travel With The Points Guy, @BrianKelly Follow Female Foodie on Instagram
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