The World Council of Churches' Ms. Frederique Seidel Discusses the WCC's Recently-Published Handbook, "Hope for Children Through Climate Justice, Legal Tools to Hold Financiers Accountable"
Anthropocentric warming, the greatest threat to human health and survival, disproportionately threatens children. Children pay the greatest climate penalty. Per the World Health Organization, children suffer more than 80% of climate crisis-related injuries, illnesses & deaths being more vulnerable to carbon-polluted air, extreme heat, drought and innumerable other climate-charged disasters and diseases. Nevertheless, the US healthcare accounts for an ever-increasing amount of carbon pollution and refuses to divest in fossil fuels. As for federal policymakers, the White House and Congressional Republicans remain intent on committing ecocide. To the surprise of no one, in late May Our Children’s Trust, on behalf of 22 plaintiffs age 7 to 25, sued President Trump and five administrative offices and departments arguing in part several White House Executive Orders will increase fossil fuel use and dismantle climate research, warnings and response infrastructure. The lead plaintiff in Lighthiser v Trump stated White House policy amounts to a “death sentence for my generation.” The WCC handbook available at: https://www.oikoumene.org/news/wcc-publishes-resource-on-legal-tools-for-climate-justice. The Lighthiser v Trump complaint is at: https://climatecasechart.com/case/lighthiser-v-trump/.Among related discussions, I interviewed the Michael Burger at Columbia University’s Sabin Center for Climate Change Law in May 2020 and again in June 2024 and Andrea Rodgers with Our Children’s Trust this past January. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.thehealthcarepolicypodcast.com
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Eneration's Jeff Rich and Laura Olson Discuss Their Efforts to Vastly Improve Healthcare Energy Efficiency and Sustainability
Frequent listeners of this podcast are well aware healthcare emits an immense amount of carbon pollution at over 600 million metric tons annually. This is substantially due to energy waste or inefficiency. For example, hospitals, that account roughly 35% of the industry’s GHG emissions, loses or forgoes tens billions in annual revenue or explicit and implicit lost opportunity costs. Healthcare pays in several ways for its energy inefficiency. Among other reasons, though one of the world’s most high tech sectors, healthcare still largely consumes electricity produced by burning fossil fuels. Heat-generated electricity is significantly less efficient than use of renewable energy technology that avoids converting heat to electricity or work. Renewable energy is increasingly more price efficient (that explains why 92% of new electricity produced in 2024 was via renewables). Healthcare utilization or demand is increased as a result of healthcare’s carbon pollution and hospitals already face market headwinds, moreover the fact inflation-adjusted payment rates have been stagnant to negative for several years. Information on Eneration can be found at: https://www.eneration.com This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.thehealthcarepolicypodcast.com
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Stanford's Dr. Chris Callahan Discusses Attribution Science & His Recently Related Article Published in "Nature"
Due to the federal government’s ongoing failure to effectively address the climate crisis, over 50 subnational entities have been taking increasingly aggressive steps to mitigate carbon pollution. Recently, Vermont (VT) and New York (NY) passed legislation to hold the oil and gas industry financial responsible for extreme weather events supercharged by their greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions. (Eleven other states are presently working to do the same.) The VT law tallies up the financial damage and then determines proportional responsibility; NY identifies in advance a damage amount and then proportionally bills responsible fossil fuel companies. VT and NY’s legislation is based attribution science. Simply explained, the methodology attempts to measure to what extent anthropocentric warming caused by fossil fuel use of specific entities supercharges extreme weather events. Last month, Stanford’s Dr. Christopher Callahan and Dartmouth’s Dr. Justin Makin published, “Carbon Majors and the Scientific Case for Climate Liability in the journal “Nature.” The authors calculated the trillions of dollars in economic losses attributable to the extreme heat caused by emissions from individual companies or carbon majors. For example, emissions attributable to Chevron caused between $791 billion and $3.6 trillion in heat-related losses between 1991 and 2020. Drs. Callahan and Mankin’s April 24 “Nature” article is at: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-08751-3 (subscription is required).A summary of the article is freely available via “The Guardian,” at: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/may/05/cost-of-emissions-from-five-major-australian-resource-companies-more-than-900bn-study-finds. Info on Dr. Callahan is at: https://profiles.stanford.edu/326897 and for Dr. Mankin, at: https://geography.dartmouth.edu/people/justin-s-mankin. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.thehealthcarepolicypodcast.com
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Director Don Lieber Discusses the "First Do No Harm" Campaign
Despite the fact US healthcare has $7.6 trillion market cap and is beyond capital intensive, industry executives have been loathe to divest in fossil fuels. For example, per “The Lancet’s” 2023 and 2024 annual “Countdown on Health and Climate” reports, between 2008 and 2023 of the 1,613 institutions committed to divesting in fossil fuels, only 28 were healthcare institutions and since 2018 only one has committed to doing so. Among numerous other reasons why this is, to be polite, disturbing, if not evil, is because: fossil fuel investments substantially explain healthcare’s massive carbon footprint at over 600 MMT of CO2e annually; anthropocentric warming poses the greatest threat to human health; failure to divest make a mockery of the Hippocratic Oath; and, among other ironies of the 12 S&P 500 economic sectors the energy sector was the worst performer by far since 2010. Information regarding the First Do No Harm campaign, including their sign-on letter, is at: https://firstdonoharm.earth/. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.thehealthcarepolicypodcast.com
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Johns Hopkins' Economics Prof. Melinda Buntin Discusses Slowing Healthcare Spending Growth Over the Past Two Decades
US healthcare costs and spending are extreme made evident by the fact healthcare at a $5 trillion annually accounts for roughly half the global healthcare market. This reality led Princeton’s Nobel Prize Economist Angus Deaton to conclude in 2020, “the industry is a cancer at the heart of the economy.” Though healthcare costs are projected to rise 7 to 8%, this year, cost growth over the past 15 plus years plus has not on average exceeded GDP growth - made evident by the fact that while the 2020 Medicare Trustee report concluded the Medicare hospital trust fund would be bankrupt by 2026, the most recent report concluded 2036. Prof. Buntin’s recent writing on the topic, “The Value Zeitgeist, Considering the Slowdown in Healthcare Spending Growth,” coauthored by Harvard’s Ellen Meara and Dartmouth’s Carrie Colla, was published in “The New England Journal of Medicine” on April 12th. Prof Buntin’s recent publications are at: https://hbhi.jhu.edu/expert/melinda-buntin. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.thehealthcarepolicypodcast.com
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