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The Signal (formerly the EdTech Connect Podcast)

Jeff Dillon
The Signal (formerly the EdTech Connect Podcast)
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  • The Signal (formerly the EdTech Connect Podcast)

    Ep. 82 - Jaime Hunt: AI Is Not the Wild West, Higher Ed Needs a Strategy

    04/10/2026 | 29 mins.
    Jaime Hunt is the founder of Solve Higher Ed and host of the popular “Confessions of a Higher Ed CMO” podcast. She unpacks the evolving landscape of higher education marketing. Jamie shares decades of experience – from her time as a Chief Marketing Officer at institutions like Old Dominion University, Miami University, and Winston-Salem State – offering brutally honest insights into the challenges and opportunities facing colleges and universities today. This is an honest conversation about enrollment strategies, brand building, crisis communications, and the surprising universality of higher ed’s struggles.

    Join Jeff as he delves into Jamie’s unique perspective on leadership, risk-taking in education, and how institutions can truly differentiate themselves in a competitive market. Discover why many colleges are facing similar hurdles despite seemingly disparate circumstances – and learn how to break free from short-term thinking.

    Key Takeaways:

    Universality of Challenges: A startling number of higher education institutions face remarkably similar challenges regarding enrollment, brand perception, and strategic direction – regardless of size or location.

    The Importance of Risk-Taking: Traditional, campaign-focused thinking is holding back progress. Institutions need to embrace calculated risk and experimentation to truly innovate.

    Beyond the "Me Problem": Leaders often get caught up in their own institution's issues, overlooking broader trends and systemic challenges within higher education.

    Selling Futures: Jamie’s personal motivation – a desire to help students achieve brighter futures – is a powerful driver for effective higher ed marketing.

    Looking Ahead: Institutions need to be thinking strategically about the next 2-3 years, anticipating technological shifts and evolving student expectations.

     

     

    The Signal Newsletter:
    https://edtechconnect.com/newsletter

     

    Find Jaime Hunt:

    LinkedIn                              

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaimehunt/

    Solve Higher Ed

    https://www.solvehighered.com/

    And find EdTech Connect here:

    Web: https://edtechconnect.com/

     

    Chapters

    (00:00:00) - The Signal: Higher Ed Marketing and Transformation
    (00:01:36) - In the Elevator With Higher Ed Marketing's
    (00:02:47) - Former CMOs at Universities and Colleges
    (00:05:06) - What are the biggest misconceptions people have about marketing leadership in higher ed
    (00:10:01) - Where are marketing institutions getting it on AI?
    (00:13:47) - AI and Marketing: The Strategic Implications
    (00:16:47) - Common themes in higher ed's AI implementation
    (00:20:04) - Why Empathy is so critical for higher ed leadership
    (00:21:28) - How to Stay Innovative With a Limited Budget
    (00:23:01) - Getting to the Cabinet: Marketing Leaders
    (00:25:09) - What are some of the most surprising insights from your
    (00:27:56) - Talking Higher Ed: Confessions of a Student
    (00:28:26) - The Signal: Higher Ed Tech Insights
  • The Signal (formerly the EdTech Connect Podcast)

    Ep. 81 - Devin Purgason: Who Owns the Student Journey in the Age of AI

    04/03/2026 | 27 mins.
    Join Jeff Dillon as he sits down with Devin Pergason, AVP for Student Experience, Marketing & Outreach at Forsyth Technical Community College, to dissect the evolving landscape of higher education. This episode tackles a critical question: why are community colleges currently best positioned to drive student success? Pergason argues that their inherent “student-first” mission – unlike research universities attempting to retrofit a student-centric model – gives them a significant advantage.

    The conversation centers on the urgency with which institutions must engage with emerging technologies, particularly AI, mirroring the same dedication they bring to the classroom. Pergason emphasizes a shift away from traditional marketing approaches that “market *to* students” towards strategies designed *for* their needs. He highlights how Forsyth Tech built a groundbreaking student care model – integrating support services directly with marketing – creating a unified approach for genuine engagement and lasting impact.

    Ultimately, this episode explores whether community colleges are truly ‘getting there’ in embracing the technological conversation, and what it takes to ensure students receive the support they need to thrive.

    Key Takeaways:

    Community College Advantage: Pergason argues that their existing mission – prioritizing student success – makes them uniquely positioned for innovation.

    Student-First Marketing: A critical discussion on moving beyond traditional marketing tactics and focusing on what truly matters to students.

    Integrated Systems are Key: The importance of combining student care services with marketing within a unified organizational structure.

    Urgency in Technology Adoption: The need for community colleges to approach technology – particularly AI – with the same level of commitment as their academic programs.

     

    The Signal Newsletter:
    https://edtechconnect.com/newsletter

     

    Find Devin Purgason:

    LinkedIn                              

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/devinpurgason/

    Forsyth Technical Community College

    https://www.forsythtech.edu/

     

    And find EdTech Connect here:

    Web: https://edtechconnect.com/

     

    Chapters

    (00:00:00) - Student Services: Marketing and Admissions
    (00:00:41) - Meet Devin Purgason
    (00:02:03) - How Student Experience and Marketing Outreach are driving higher education innovation
    (00:10:08) - Forsyth Tech's AI Committee
    (00:15:48) - How Marketing Data is Affecting the Student Journey
    (00:18:04) - What are the opportunities of AI in colleges?
    (00:19:31) - On Student Engagement and Marketing
    (00:23:26) - How to Modernize Higher Ed Marketing Teams
    (00:25:24) - The Future of Higher Ed: Technology Innovation
  • The Signal (formerly the EdTech Connect Podcast)

    Ep. 80 - Higher Ed Is on Fire. We Need a Better Signal.

    03/27/2026 | 6 mins.
    “The Signal” is launching with a vital mission: to cut through the overwhelming noise surrounding technology in higher education and deliver honest conversations about what truly matters. Hosted by Jeff Dillon, this show originates from a thriving community – a decade-long email listserv (now boasting nearly 70,000 members) of web directors, digital marketers, and leaders across higher ed who were grappling with responsive design, mobile technology, and the evolving needs of students.

    The show’s core focus is identifying what’s actually moving the needle and understanding how faculty and students are utilizing technology daily. Jeff emphasizes the critical need to avoid making policy decisions “blind,” urging listeners to engage with the conversations shaping higher education.

    “The Signal” is committed to uncovering those real-world insights and fostering a community where innovative ideas can thrive.

    The show continues every Friday with the same format and commitment to honest conversations about leadership and technology’s impact on higher education.

    The Signal Newsletter:
    https://edtechconnect.com/newsletter

    And find EdTech Connect here:

    Web: https://edtechconnect.com/

     

    Chapters

    (00:00:01) - EdTech Connect: Reflections on the Name Change
  • The Signal (formerly the EdTech Connect Podcast)

    Ep. 79 - Valerie Fox: The New Front Door to Graduate Enrollment

    03/20/2026 | 31 mins.
    In a higher ed landscape crowded with sameness, how can institutions truly stand out and drive enrollment growth, especially for graduate and professional programs?

    This week on The Signal: On Air, host Jeff Dillon sits down with Val Fox, a strategic advisor at EAB with decades of experience leading marketing at both major universities and consumer brands like Bose. Val argues that the biggest mistake institutions make is trying to scale the undergraduate playbook for their graduate programs, which are often fragmented, under-resourced, and siloed.

    Val shares critical insights from EAB's latest research on the modern adult learner, revealing a fundamental shift toward stealth shopping, digital-first decision-making, and a surge in AI adoption for program discovery. She explains why "supportive faculty" and "strong outcomes" are just the category minimum, not differentiators, and offers a practical guide on how to build a genuine brand "moat" by getting specific.

    Tune in to learn how to move from endless debate to disciplined experimentation, align your cross-functional teams, and ensure your institution is visible at the new AI-powered front door of higher ed.

    Key Takeaways

    Stop Using the Undergraduate Playbook: Graduate enrollment is fundamentally different. It's often fragmented and under-resourced, requiring a distinct strategy focused on the unique needs of adult, professional, and online learners, not a scaled-down version of the traditional undergraduate model.

    Data Beats Enthusiasm: Too many programs are launched based on internal enthusiasm rather than market demand. Institutions serious about growth must ground their decisions in public data (like IPEDS and BLS) to validate student demand and employer needs before investing in new programs.

    Differentiation Requires a "Moat": Generic claims like "supportive community" or "academic excellence" are just the sector minimum. To truly stand out, institutions must get specific and "compound" their differentiators—building a unique set of program-level advantages that are hard for competitors to simply copy.

    The Student Journey Has Fundamentally Changed: Today's graduate learners are "stealth" shoppers. Over 80% complete their research and decide on a short list without ever contacting the institution. They expect a self-service, digital-first experience akin to Netflix or Amazon.

    AI is the New Front Door: Prospective students are rapidly adopting AI (with 5x growth in usage) to synthesize information and compare programs. However, there's a dangerous gap between institutions researching AI and actually auditing their visibility in these new channels. If you aren't visible there, you're falling behind.

    Move from Vanity to Actionable Metrics: Focus on metrics that directly tie to enrollment, such as application starts and inquiry requests, rather than vanity metrics like page views. Institutions must create a "bright line" between marketing efforts and these digital behaviors.

    Transform Through Experimentation, Not Debate: Successful institutions prototype their way forward. They run pilots with clear success metrics, are willing to stop what isn't working, and embrace disciplined experimentation instead of getting bogged down in multi-year committees.

    Align Teams with a Shared Reality: Friction across marketing, admissions, and academic leadership often stems from different assumptions. Building a shared baseline understanding of market conditions and using frameworks to reduce complexity can align teams and accelerate decision-making.

     

    The Signal Newsletter:
    https://edtechconnect.com/newsletter

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    Chapters

    (00:00:00) - The Signal on Air: AI and the Future of Higher Ed
    (00:01:23) - Valerie Fox at the Consumer Marketing Conference
    (00:02:47) - Jeff Knows: What Led Me to Higher Ed
    (00:06:59) - Bentley University's Digital Experience
    (00:10:10) - EMB Student Enrollment: Growing Graduate Enrollment
    (00:12:05) - Graduate Program Growth and Strategic Planning
    (00:14:45) - Brand and Communication
    (00:20:22) - What's Advancing the Use of AI in Student Search and Discovery
    (00:23:23) - What Do You Need to Know to Accelerate Enrollment?
    (00:24:46) - What separates the organizations that truly transform from the ones that stall?
    (00:26:47) - What's the key to building real momentum in higher ed?
    (00:29:20) - Jeff Smith: How to Grow Enrollment in the Next 3-
    (00:31:00) - The Signal: Higher Ed Tech News & Insights
  • The Signal (formerly the EdTech Connect Podcast)

    Ep. 78 - Shannon Vander Muelen: Students Don’t Hate Waiting They Hate Uncertainty

    03/13/2026 | 25 mins.
    Jeff Dillon sits down with Shannon Vander Meulen, Co-Founder and CMO of WaitWell, a tech platform transforming how students access campus services—from advising to financial aid.

    A former public service office manager turned tech founder, Shannon brings a rare blend of frontline operational experience and educator empathy to the problem of waiting. She shares how her decade running a busy registry office revealed that what people truly want isn’t popcorn or music—it’s competence, clarity, and their time back. Shannon unpacks how WaitWell eliminates physical lines, empowers staff with AI-driven insights, and gives students the digital-first experience they now expect. From onboarding without tech fatigue to launching their new AI agent “Waillo,” this conversation is a useful guide to building solutions that solve real problems—not just deploying tech for tech’s sake.

    Whether you’re in student affairs, IT, or service operations, you’ll walk away with actionable ideas for making service interactions faster, fairer, and more human.

    Key Takeaways

    Waiting Is a Universal Pain Point – Long lines aren’t just inefficient—they create stress for both visitors and staff. Modern students expect the same digital convenience (DoorDash, Uber) when accessing campus services.

    Competence Trumps Friendliness – While a welcoming environment matters, what people truly want is to be served by someone with the right training to solve their problem—quickly and correctly.

    Transparency Reduces Frustration – Simply knowing how long a wait will be—whether 15 minutes or 2 hours—dramatically improves the service experience and reduces anxiety.

    Educator Mindset Informs Product Design – Shannon’s teaching background taught her to “scaffold” complex processes into smaller steps—a skill that directly translates to building intuitive, user-centered technology.

    AI Should Solve Real Problems, Not Chase Hype – WaitWell’s AI agent “Waillo” was born from customer feedback. It helps staff ask natural-language questions like, “When’s the best day to close for training without impacting wait times?”

    Onboarding Is the Secret Sauce – Successful tech adoption hinges on dedicated setup: sandbox environments, workflow mapping, and a single point of contact (account manager) to ensure smooth implementation.

    Tech Fatigue Is Real – Staff are often juggling dozens of tools. The best new solutions either integrate seamlessly or replace existing systems—not add to the clutter.

    Data Reveals Hidden Patterns – Once organizations track wait times and service demand, they often discover unexpected peaks and valleys—enabling smarter staffing and resource allocation.

    Keep the Human in the Loop – While AI and chatbots can handle routine inquiries, many institutions still value in-person connection. The key is balancing digital efficiency with human touchpoints where they matter most.

    Build a Culture That Listens – WaitWell’s product innovations are driven by weekly meetings between support and development teams, ensuring engineers hear directly from users—keeping the company focused on solving real problems.

     

    Find Emily Vander Meulen:

    LinkedIn                              

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannonvandermeulen/

    WaitWell

    https://waitwellsoftware.com/

     

    And find EdTech Connect here:

    Web: https://edtechconnect.com/

     

    Chapters

    (00:00:00) - What I Learned About Customer Service
    (00:00:29) - Interviewing Shannon Vandermeulen
    (00:01:39) - How I Founded Weightwell: Learning From the Process
    (00:06:50) - What's Waitwell Do for Student Service Centers?
    (00:12:44) - What have been the biggest technical or cultural barriers to digital transformation in
    (00:14:02) - What's Been Your Proudest Moment Since Launching Weightwell?
    (00:15:15) - Service Experience Insights
    (00:16:46) - What insights typically surprise the leadership the most?
    (00:20:55) - How to Manage Student Service Delivery with AI
    (00:22:44) - Waitwell's CEO Shannon on EdTech Connect
    (00:24:27) - EdTech Connect

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About The Signal (formerly the EdTech Connect Podcast)

Reaching #4 on the Apple Podcast Education charts, The Signal is the definitive podcast for higher education’s transformation leaders. Hosted by Jeff Dillon, The Signal cuts through the noise of the "status quo" to bring you the strategic intelligence needed to reshape how institutions recruit, support, and retain students. Every Friday, we sit down with the practitioners and technology builders who are actively defining the next decade of campus life. Why Higher Ed Leaders Listen: In one of the most consequential periods for academia, we move past the hype to focus on Human-Centered Innovation. Our episodes feature deep-dive interviews with guest experts from SNHU, EAB, WGU, and Panopto, focusing on the "real work" of institutional evolution. Core Topics & AI Strategy: * Artificial Intelligence: Practical AI adoption, governance, and the "Human in the Loop" mindset. * Enrollment Marketing: Modern recruitment strategies and GEO (Generative Engine Optimization). * Student Success: Data-driven retention, mental health, and digital engagement. * Institutional Transformation: Navigating digital transformation with a focus on workforce readiness and AVPs reimagining student care. Whether you are a C-suite leader, IT Director, or Faculty member, join our community of 70,000+ professionals to stay ahead of the curve. New episodes every Friday. Learn more at edtechconnect.com
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