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• Joel Cesare Decarbonizing Building Portfolios with AI

  In this episode, Ted interviews Joel Cesare, a longstanding friend,colleague, and sustainability champion, who has just begun a new job at Cambio, a firm that has an AI platform designed for portfolios of real estate. Joel explains how Cambio's platform supports all manner of data-intensive property management functions, including building decarbonization.Joel discusses his years at Google where he was on a team of sustainability managers. Their goal was to decarbonize all of Google's 40 million square feet of real estate by 2030. To do so, they studied hundreds of facilities in many countries... prioritizing projects based on numerous parameters. What Joel realized in that job was the power of AI in sifting through massive amounts of data and developing work plans to decarbonize and advance sustainable practices.Ted and Joel dig into the fact that the data centers that power AI systems are very energy intensive. Ted queries, "Is the Cambio platform a sustainable solution given the energy intensity of AI?" Joel believes that, yes, this application of AI does provide a net societal benefit as retrofits and new construction activities are flagged that make economic sense... measures and carbon savings that would not have been realized absent the AI platform.They also recount Joel's pioneering work for the City of Santa Monica, developing City Hall East, one of the world's most sustainable buildings. Joel acknowledges the key role played by Denis Hayes in promoting the project's unique design features at Santa Monica's City Council. Denis had recently completed the Bullitt Center's radically sustainable headquarters in Seattle, and had encouraged others to follow suit, pushing the envelope of sustainable buildings.Joel highlights a few of City Hall East's greatest challenges: First and foremost was rooftop rainwater collection for potable water. This involved certifying rooftop surfaces -- including solar panels -- for water that is now used for showering and drinking. Another challenge was the inclusion of composting toilets there... the first ever in a public building of its kind. 

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• Steve Lewis on Rebuilding Community after the Eaton Fire

  Flanigan's Eco-Logic features Steve Lewis for the third time... this time delving into his own deeply disturbing experience, as his neighborhood was ravaged by the Eaton Fire in early January. It wiped out much of his home town of Alta Dena, California... killing 17 people and destroying some 9,000 homes and business properties. There were heavy winds that day and he saw the fire coming, working its way down the mountainside visible from his upstairs windows. Time to evacuate.Steve's home was miraculously spared even though fires licked up the fences on either side of his property and the base of his front yard tree charred. He recounts that home after home were decimated by fire; households and generations of Alta Dena residents disrupted in a city-wide bonfire fueled by channels of 100+ mile per hour winds.Since the fire, Steve explains how he has been focused on working with others to rebuild the community, not just its built environment, but its culture. Alta Dena has been one of Los Angeles's most unique communities, diverse in professions and income and race. It is known for its black community and its rich sense of place. Working with others, Steve is rebuilding Alta Dena's pride. He is working on designs of public spaces and collaborating with others to enhance its commercial corridors. He and others are helping to maintain and bring back architectural styles, developing blueprints that feature Alta Dena's heritage, and that are poised for streamlined permitting.Ted and Steve talk about the cause of the fires, how each of us is responsible for climate change and how we can make our homes more resilient to fire. Steve shares his optimism that lessons can be learned, that the community can be reborn from the ashes of the Eaton Fire, a calamity of epic proportions. 

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• Paul Mann on Becoming Water Champions

  Paul Mann is the founder of Water Champions, an engineering and design firm specializing in the efficient and smart use of water. He joins Ted Flanigan to discuss how this came about, and what each of us can do to be water smart.During Covid, Paul and his wife experienced California drought and fires, and began to realize the enormous importance of water at home and worldwide. Fully half of the Earth's population lives in water-stressed areas, and given population growth, demand for water will grow by 20 - 30%. "Water shortage is imminent."Paul and Jenna Mann's story began at home, with an outdoor shower next to their hot tub. They rigged a system such that the shower's water came from captured rainwater, harvested in a large tank. The shower's drain was channeled into their three-level garden beds. These and other measures -- including leak detection systems and irrigation controllers -- cut their water use by a shocking 60 - 70%.They found that new technologies, like recirculating water shower systems, cut water and energy use while delivering more fulfilling showers. These systems collect and reuse water, they clean it, reheat it, and disinfect it with UV. Their discovery with basic practices and new technologies resulted with them wanting to share their experiences, pamphleting their neighbors, telling them about their success. This launched Water Champions.Today Water Champions provides consulting service for homes and businesses to help them use water efficiently... from the water source to its reuse, ultimately supporting end-uses such as drought-tolerant landscaping and permaculture. Paul and Jenna also created the Renova Academy which trains architects, designers, landscapers, homeowners, and others online. One need not give up the pool, Paul explained. Through smart water use, Water Champions helps people maintain quality lifestyles through a portfolio of water solutions.

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• Josh Dorfman on Sustainable Building Materials

  In this Convo of Flanigan’s Eco-Logic, Ted speaks with Josh Dorfman, CEO at Supercool, a media company covering climate solutions that raise profits and quality of life. Josh is also the host of the Supercool Podcast, and co-founder of Plantd, a company that  manufactures carbon-negative building materials. He is best known as creator and host of The Lazy Environmentalist, an award-winning reality TV show on Sundance Channel, radio show on Sirius Satellite Radio, book series, and e-commerce business.He and Ted briefly discuss his background, born and raised in Armonk, in Westchester County, New York. He studied International Relations at the University of Pennsylvania, and holds an MBA from Thunderbird, The School of Global Management at Arizona State University. He shares that he had his environmental epiphany while working as a quality-control in China. Knowing that bikes would eventually be replaced by cars - and that there were going to be billions of them.Since then, his career has been focused around building companies that solve climate change by cutting carbon, boosting the bottom line, and improving modern life. Josh has launched and led multiple sustainable businesses, including Vivavi, a pioneering retail venture specializing in modern design, sustainable furniture, named to Inc. Magazine’s “Green 50” as an innovator accelerating the green economy. He also highlights his role at Plantd, a manufacturer of carbon-negative building materials, where he raised the company’s seed and Series A rounds, generated millions in early-stage revenue, and grew brand awareness through accolades, including Fast Company’s 2024 list of the World’s Most Innovative Companies and the Innovation by Design Awards.Josh shares that he enjoys speaking about innovative climate solutions and communications strategies that sway skeptics to become supporters. He concludes by sharing an optimistic view on the climate crisis, pointing out energy efficiency gains in recent years, as well as the opportunities for entrepreneurial growth to affect change and create stronger and more vibrant communities. 

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• Drew Slater on Delaware's Sustainable Energy Utility

  In this Convo of Flanigan’s Eco-Logic, Ted speaks with Drew Slater, Executive Director Energize Delaware. The Delaware Sustainable Energy Utility is a non-profit that gives energy-efficiency grants and low-interest loans to qualified borrowers, helping them install solar energy systems or make energy efficiency upgrades. Energize Delaware programs aid residents, businesses, nonprofits, government facilities, farms, faith organizations and schools to become energy efficient.Before becoming the second executive director of Energize Delaware, Drew built a resume of 20 years of experience in various roles, such as Delaware’s Public Advocate, then-Rep. John Carney’s Kent and Sussex coordinator and legislative assistant for the State Senate. In his work with the Office of Public Advocate, he worked to strengthen the state’s Renewable Portfolio Standards and the competition of the Artificial Island project to improve reliability for the electric grid.He and Ted discuss the comprehensive and community driven array of programs that Energize Delaware offers, including energy audits, rebates, low interest loans or grants for large renewable energy systems, and programs available to low-income customers. He specifically highlights the weatherization assistance program, solar initiatives and incentives, and programs for farmers, ranchers, growers, and other agri-businesses to take charge of their energy future. He also shares how Energize Delaware works collaboratively with the utility, working together to ensure market certainty, avoiding program duplicity, and regularly introducing new, innovative, and relevant solutions to power their community with clean, efficient, and affordable energy.

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