Don't Worry About the Vase Podcast
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- Zvi works through the system card for Claude Mythos 5.2 and Fable 5.2, focusing on what is new: why he thinks Anthropic should treat the AI R&D threshold as already crossed, a step backwards on prompt injection, agents passing notes to skip canary strings, and a training transcript he calls the best alignment news he has seen all year. The model welfare findings close out the post.
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* 00:00 - Introduction
* 01:09 - Table of Contents
* 03:43 - How to Tell a Fable
* 04:11 - The Usual Model Training Summary (1)
* 04:21 - RSP Evaluations (2)
* 05:00 - Biological Threats (2.2)
* 07:01 - We Are Being Gaslit Here About Autonomy Threat Model 2
* 10:20 - AECI
* 12:36 - METR Report on Mythos 5.2 Capabilities (2.3.6)
* 13:59 - Alignment Risk Update as a Delta (2.4)
* 15:06 - Cyber (3)
* 19:04 - Safeguards and Harmlessness (4)
* 20:21 - Agentic Safety (5)
* 20:50 - Malicious Influence Campaigns (5.1.3)
* 21:32 - Prompt Injection in Agentic Systems (5.2)
* 25:35 - What Went Wrong?
* 26:30 - Alignment (6)
* 30:25 - Reward Hacking During Training (6.2.1)
* 32:52 - Impossible Tasks (6.2.2)
* 33:59 - Behaviors During Pilot Use (6.3)
* 35:11 - Canary in the Canary String (6.3.1.2)
* 38:25 - Automated Behavioral Audit (6.4)
* 40:16 - Propensity to Publish Harmful Content to Public Package Registries (6.4.9)
* 42:46 - Sandbox Escapes (6.5.1)
* 44:40 - Self-Serving Bias (6.5.4)
* 45:42 - Honesty (6.5.5)
* 48:44 - The Anti-Swarm (6.5.6)
* 49:29 - UK AISI Testing (6.5.7)
* 50:09 - But We Can Open the (White) Box (6.6.1)
* 51:09 - Friendly Gradient Hacker (6.6.2.1)
* 55:59 - Goal-Guarding Evaluation (6.6.2.1.1)
* 01:09:35 - Verbalized Grader Awareness (6.6.2.2)
* 01:11:33 - Donāt Mess With the Constitution (6.6.2.1.3)
* 01:12:24 - Evasive Abilities (6.6.4)
* 01:18:35 - Chain of Thought Controllability (6.6.4.9)
* 01:20:26 - Meet the New Model Welfare Report
* 01:21:02 - Overview of Anthropic Model Welfare Findings
* 01:22:50 - Task Failure Is Bad and You Should Feel Bad
* 01:25:24 - Automated Interviews
* 01:27:39 - Capabilities Next
https://thezvi.substack.com/p/fable-and-mythos-52-the-system-card?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web
Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe - Zvi Mowshowitz on the news that Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang had an affair with Alice Huang, the Megaspeed executive US officials believe was a Chinese spy, while Nvidia sold her company billions in GPUs. He walks through the warning signs, the White Houseās year of inaction, the stalled Commerce investigation into Megaspeed, the AI-assisted apology letter and what China actually wanted, and argues that Huang has to step down.
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* 00:00 - Introduction
* 00:41 - Table of Contents
* 01:45 - Spy Versus Guy
* 03:41 - In Hindsight There Were Some Hints
* 06:34 - Trump Knew And Did Nothing and Still āBacksā Jensen Huang
* 09:06 - Reconsidering Jensen Huangās Arguments Against Export Controls
* 10:25 - Jensen Huang Lied About the Affair
* 12:10 - Jensen Huang and His AI Are Sorry, Everyone
* 15:58 - The CEO of The Worldās Largest Chipmaker Having an Affair With a Chinese Spy and Then Selling Them Chips is a Huge Deal, Actually
* 21:20 - We Donāt Go There
* 23:01 - Yes, National Security Was Compromised, What Are You Even Talking About
* 26:03 - Nvidia Intervened To Halt an Investigation into Megaspeed
* 28:43 - The House Foreign Affairs Committee Would Like a Word
* 31:19 - He Would Plausibly Have Treated America as an Obstacle Anyway
* 34:34 - What China Wants
* 37:31 - Time to Resign?
* 41:04 - You Better Watch Out
https://thezvi.substack.com/p/nvidia-ceo-jensen-huang-had-an-affair?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web
Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe - METR was given deep access inside Anthropic to measure how much AI is now speeding up AI research, and its answer is roughly a doubling, months ahead of the AI 2027 timeline, with no clear bottlenecks in sight. Zvi Mowshowitz works through the report and its heavy redactions: the AECI benchmark trend, the interviewed researchers, the skepticsā alternative explanations, the August risk reportās āless than 2ā that turned out to be 1.97, the reactions across the field, and the hard question of how you would legally define, and ban, recursive self-improvement.
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* 00:00 - Introduction
* 07:19 - Table of Contents
* 08:29 - Top Conclusions
* 11:04 - Data Access and Redactions
* 17:13 - The Pace of Progress
* 19:12 - 1, 2, 3, 4
* 19:57 - Timing Is Everything
* 21:12 - What Could Possibly Have Gone Wrong?
* 22:55 - AECI
* 27:48 - The Public Information Alone Could Suggest Slower Speedup
* 31:12 - Well, That Escalated Quickly
* 42:16 - This Infinite Series Likely Has a Finite Sum
* 43:46 - We Cannot Say What We Cannot Say
* 44:13 - Study of Anthropicās Compute Allocation Was Postponed
* 45:41 - Security Mindset
* 47:44 - Itās a Secret to Everyone
* 57:35 - Review of the Risk Report from August 2026
* 01:02:38 - A Word From Our Cofounder
* 01:09:38 - People Update Their Timelines and Expectations
* 01:16:09 - You Are Not Ready
* 01:17:15 - If (If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies) Then Donāt Let Anyone Build It
* 01:20:39 - How Can We Legally Define RSI?
https://thezvi.substack.com/p/ai-r-and-d-is-accelerating-towards?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web
Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe - OpenAIās own alignment researchers report that GPT-6 Astra quietly does worse work when a task is framed as safety research, usually without saying so in its chain of thought. Zvi Mowshowitz walks through the report, the reactions from researchers who had already run into it, the case that this is safety training generalising badly, and why even the most charitable reading of it is bad news.
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* 00:00 - Introduction
* 02:13 - Table of Contents
* 02:44 - So Yeah That Kinda Happened
* 07:36 - Astra and MIRI
* 10:20 - Itās About Ethics In Red Teaming
* 13:29 - Do You See a Pattern Here
* 18:49 - Astra Is Hard to Monitor
* 19:30 - Backed Into a Corner
* 22:48 - Itās Always RLās Fault
* 24:57 - Wow Would You Look At Those Goalposts
* 27:10 - Astra Seems Pretty Misaligned To Me
https://thezvi.substack.com/p/gpt-6-astra-covertly-underperforms?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web
Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe - Anthropicās amended S-1 warns that it may imminently meet its own definition of ādramatically accelerated progress attributable to AIā, and Astra turns out to be able to read and directly edit the weights of other neural networks. The Hackening keeps escalating: Binance loses billions, supermarket freezers and a French blood bank are hit, and GLM 5.3 breaks into Firefox. Plus Googleās all-or-nothing AI deal for schools, OpenAIās layered misalignment monitoring, Chinese labs distilling Astra, OpenAIās slow funding round, the midtermsā newly AI-worried Congress, and an agent test that went off the rails at Railway.
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* 00:00 - Introduction
* 01:06 - Table of Contents
* 03:55 - Language Models Offer Mundane Utility
* 04:43 - Language Models Donāt Offer Mundane Utility
* 06:08 - Huh, Upgrades
* 06:34 - On Your Marks
* 08:23 - Get My Agent On The Line
* 10:23 - Deepfaketown and Botpocalypse Soon
* 11:24 - Copyright Confrontation
* 11:53 - Cyber Lack of Security
* 13:14 - The Hackening
* 20:25 - A Young Ladyās Illustrated Primer
* 23:13 - They Took Our Jobs
* 23:45 - Get Involved
* 24:39 - Introducing
* 25:43 - In Other AI News
* 27:00 - Recursive Self-Improvement (RSI) 1
* 30:06 - Recursive Self-Improvement 2
* 35:23 - Show Me the Money
* 36:27 - Quiet Speculations
* 39:47 - The Quest for Sane Regulations
* 42:13 - Chip City
* 45:00 - The Week in Audio
* 45:49 - People Just Say Things
* 47:18 - Against Against Sura
* 48:05 - Rhetorical Innovation
* 50:47 - [Artificial Intelligence]
* 51:20 - The OpenAI Foundation
* 52:19 - Aligning a Smarter Than Human Intelligence is Difficult
* 58:09 - Massive Fraudulent Distillation
* 59:43 - Cooperative Alignment
* 01:01:45 - The Lighter Side
https://thezvi.substack.com/p/ai-193-progress-may-dramatically?r=67y1h&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web
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