All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

(0:00) Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff joins the show!
(1:14) Trump-Xi summit, doing business in China as a US company, impact on Americans and the midterms
(18:46) Taiwan, chips, AI models, and peace through trade
(31:41) AI's impact on software: What SaaS thrives, what SaaS dies?
(47:26) OpenAI is considering suing Apple over failed ChatGPT integration
(56:54) Thinking Machines releases real-time model, future of consumer AI, multi-sensory models
(1:02:24) Science Corner: Impacts of a historically strong El Nino in 2026
(1:11:40) Anthropic goes after "Dark SPVs"
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Referenced in the show:
https://polymarket.com/event/will-china-invade-taiwan-before-2027
https://polymarket.com/event/will-china-invade-taiwan-by-december-31-2027
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/14/world/asia/china-xi-trump-taiwan-warning.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/13/technology/andreessen-horowitz-politics.html
https://www.instagram.com/reels/DYJZFn0R6oY
https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/technology/articles/openai-launches-4-billion-ai-134916653.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO53gwuqZUQ
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-14/openai-apple-partnership-frays-setting-up-possible-legal-fight
https://siliconangle.com/2026/05/11/thinking-machines-drops-new-highly-responsive-model-designed-humanlike-interactions-real-time/
https://x.com/thinkymachines/status/2053938892152435174
https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2026/05/12/anthropic-fights-unauthorized-stock-exposure-as-token-markets-imply-trillion-dollar-valuation
https://support.claude.com/en/articles/13704655-unauthorized-anthropic-stock-sales-and-investment-scams

(0:00) David Friedberg welcomes Charles & Chase Koch
(1:04) Koch Inc. Overview: Scale, Business Lines & History
(2:21) Building the Business: Early Days & Charles Koch Joins (1961)
(11:31) Failures, Creative Destruction & Learning from Mistakes
(19:22) Culture & Principle-Based Management
(33:53) Georgia-Pacific Acquisition & Culture Transformation
(56:17) Stand Together: Education Reform & Social Change
(1:12:37) AI, Economic Challenges & the Future of Capitalism
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(0:00) Spencer Pratt vs. the Machine
(3:01) Inside the Palisades Fire: Drained Reservoirs, No Sirens & Watching His House Burn on His Phone
(14:03) Why He's Running for Mayor: FireAid's $100M Scandal & the NGO Corruption Nobody Talks About
(28:10) Karen Bass at 20% & the Real State of Los Angeles: Crime, Homelessness & a City in Free Fall
(38:23) Spencer's Plan to Fix LA: Enforcing Laws, Auditing Everyone & the Billionaires Ready to Rebuild
(52:22) Hollywood, LAUSD & Small Business: What It Actually Takes to Make LA #1 Again
(56:25) The Permitting Nightmare Killing Small Business & How AI Fixes It Overnight
(1:04:22) His 8-Year Vision
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(0:00) Bestie intros! Thoughts on the LA mayor election
(4:38) SpaceX-Anthropic deal, Elon Web Services, SpaceX IPO valuation, Anthropic's insane growth trajectory
(26:48) Is Anthropic the next great monopoly? Early signals or major overreaction?
(35:21) "FDA for AI" freakout, how the White House thinks about AI safety
(52:01) Flipping AI's negative perception: Giving, healthcare and education innovation
(1:00:04) Trading the AI market, state of the economy
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Referenced in the show:
https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/2052413443739951366
https://www.anthropic.com/news/higher-limits-spacex
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2052073463029055926
https://x.com/shaunmmaguire/status/2052075296002625942
https://x.ai/news/anthropic-compute-partnership
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https://www.gradesaver.com/there-will-be-blood/study-guide/a-brief-history-of-standard-oil
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https://x.com/SusieWiles47/status/2052192419718783246
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/05/business/dealbook/trump-ai-regulation.html
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https://x.com/ahall_research/status/2052042535661691282
https://x.com/SenSanders/status/2052116733683470556

(0:00) Bestie intros
(3:05) OpenAI misses targets, Codex gains on Claude
(20:02) AI cybersecurity: a market that's about to explode
(31:03) Elon vs Sam Altman lawsuit
(41:00) Big tech smashes earnings, Capex explosion
(52:44) Vibecoding nightmare: AI deleted someone's codebase
(58:33) Retatrutide craze: peptides go mainstream
(1:06:34) Friedberg's Supreme Court experience
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Referenced in the show:
https://www.instagram.com/missthingthepod
https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/openai-misses-key-revenue-user-targets-in-high-stakes-sprint-toward-ipo-94a95273
https://polymarket.com/event/ipos-before-2027
https://x.com/aakashgupta/status/2049723185617412550
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1803.03635
https://x.com/AISecurityInst/status/2049868227740565890
https://x.com/ns123abc/status/2049527702076449244
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https://x.com/ns123abc/status/2049527702076449244
https://www.google.com/finance/quote/CSCO:NASDAQ
https://x.com/chamath/status/2049864100143104420
https://x.com/zerohedge/status/2049895327566561683
https://x.com/lifeof_jer/status/2048103471019434248
https://x.com/levie/status/2049163935182733396
https://www.foxnews.com/media/carville-tells-dems-quietly-prepare-power-grab-dc-puerto-rico-statehood-supreme-court-packing