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More Health, Less Healthcare

Peter Boland PhD
More Health, Less Healthcare
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    Housing as Healthcare: When Communities Decide Where Investments Go

    07/22/2026 | 11 mins.
    Peter Boland dives deep into the transformative power of community-driven housing investments and how shifting incentives—and power—can radically improve health equity.

    Featured Discussions

    Healthy Homes Des Moines
    Tackling childhood asthma and allergies at the source, this program goes directly into homes, identifies environmental triggers, and provides meaningful repairs and supplies. The lesson? Fix the environment, not just the patient.
    The SPARC Initiative in Oakland
    Through collective action from over 500 local stakeholders, SPARC is moving affordable housing and anti-displacement efforts forward by putting decisions in the hands of residents. Real systemic change: the City of Oakland now rewards developers who partner with the community.
    Bon Secours' Audacious Shift in Baltimore
    In one of the boldest moves yet, Bon Secours sold its century-old hospital and reinvested funds to build stable housing, educational spaces, and job opportunities. Their philosophy: work for the community, not just with it.

    Key Takeaways

    Community is the True Unit of Intervention. Programs deliver better results when residents decide what's needed and where investment goes.
    Structural Change Beats Status Quo. Changing local government and health system policies shifts real power to those most affected.
    Tangible Returns. Investments in stable housing yield social returns that rival, if not outperform, traditional financial instruments—and improve health in the process.

    Empowering communities isn’t just a theory—it’s happening now, and it’s changing lives. Be sure to catch Peter Boland's insightful analysis and real-world examples by listening to the full podcast.
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    Treating Neighborhoods as Patients: Hospital-Led Housing Initiatives

    07/15/2026 | 12 mins.
    Welcome back to More Health, Less Healthcare with Peter Boland. In this, we dive into why housing is far more than just a place to live—it's a clinical intervention that can shape the health of entire communities.

    Key Takeaways
    Treating Neighborhoods as the Patient:
    Peter Boland explores how Nationwide Children’s Hospital in Columbus redefined its mission, tackling intergenerational poverty by viewing the community itself as the patient. Investing in housing revitalization led to a 20.8% drop in ER visits and a 12.7% reduction in hospital admissions in targeted neighborhoods.
    Institutional Investment Over Charity:
    Both Nationwide Children’s and Boston Medical Center demonstrate the power of allocating real capital—not just charitable donations—toward social infrastructure. Boston Medical Center devoted its entire $6.6 million Determination of Need fund to housing initiatives, securing long-term stability for patients with chronic health issues.
    Integration as Prevention:
    Blue Cross Blue Shield of Minnesota’s Center of Prevention illustrates how scaling institutional efforts—integrating affordable housing, food access, and tobacco cessation—can transform both health outcomes and communities.

    Why It Matters
    Short-term thinking doesn’t move the needle on health equity or chronic disease. As Peter Boland puts it, “Institutions need to change, not people.” Long-term, strategic investments in housing create real and measurable health improvements.
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    What If They Got The Incentives Right? How Medically Tailored Food Programs Outperform Drugs in Clinical Outcomes

    07/08/2026 | 12 mins.
    In our latest episode, Peter Boland dives deep into the fascinating and urgent topic of Food as Medicine—a movement proving that changing what's on our plates can save both lives and dollars.

    Key Takeaways
    Geisinger Fresh Food Pharmacy
    Peter Boland highlights that Geisinger’s program for type 2 diabetes achieved an 80% reduction in healthcare costs—dropping from $240,000 to just $48,000 per patient. Patients also saw improved HbA1c, lower BMI and blood pressure, and 10–50 pounds in weight loss.
    Boston Medical Center’s Comprehensive Approach
    The first hospital in the U.S. to fully integrate food as medicine, Boston Medical Center serves 7,000 people monthly—including a robust food pantry, rooftop farm, and teaching kitchen. Their efforts go further by embedding legal assistance to help patients with housing, utilities, and benefits issues.
    Cleveland Clinic’s Group Appointments
    Using shared medical appointments, patients support each other through lifestyle changes addressing root causes of chronic disease. Not only does this model increase efficiency, but the social reinforcement leads to better outcomes and reduced hospitalizations.

    “Food is medicine and the industry’s continued reluctance to treat it that way is costing money and lives at the same time.” — Peter Boland
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    What If Healthcare Incentives Were Right? Insights from Pathways, Houston Methodist, and Blue Cross

    07/01/2026 | 18 mins.
    In our latest episode of More Health, Less Healthcare, Peter Boland tackles a fundamental question: What if the healthcare industry got the incentives right? Drawing from insights in the comprehensive Health Equity Case Studies Handbook, Peter Boland summarizes game-changing models and the powerful results that emerged when organizations shifted to pay-for-outcomes.

    Key Takeaways from the Episode
    Pay for Outcomes, Not Activities:
    Most healthcare payments go toward procedures and visits, not true health improvements. Peter Boland challenges us to consider: What if we tied payment to real results, just like we do in other industries?
    Success Stories Highlighted:
    Pathways Community Hub:
    Community health workers are paid when problems are solved, not just for showing up. This model led to a dramatic increase in healthy birth weights and better prenatal outcomes.
    Houston Methodist:
    Giving doctors access to monthly, personalized data on their practice resulted in lowered hospital admissions, fewer readmissions, and millions in shared savings.
    Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts:
    Their alternative quality contract ties provider payments to patient outcomes and equity—not just volume. This approach slowed spending and improved care for all populations.
    Measuring What Matters:
    Across the board, organizations that “measure what matters and tell the truth about it” saw behavior change and improved results.

    Despite abundant evidence, Peter Boland asks why the industry hasn’t widely adopted these models. The answer: it’s not a lack of information—the missing ingredient is institutional will.
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    Redefining Maternal Health: Coverage, Access, and Accountability

    06/24/2026 | 13 mins.
    In this episode, Peter Boland zooms out to examine why maternal health outcomes in the U.S. are a direct result of the systems and policies we build, not random chance. Too often, policy treats pregnancy as a brief event—missing the reality that maternal health is a long-term continuum stretching from pre-pregnancy, through birth, and into the year after.

    It’s not enough to offer coverage on paper or just measure outcomes—someone has to be responsible for improving them. Tying incentives, contracts, and regulations to real results is key.

    Listen to the episode for the full story on how smarter policy can save lives and deliver real value—financially and in human well-being.
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About More Health, Less Healthcare
Are you ready to rethink what health really means—and what it takes for us to achieve it? Welcome to the “More Health. Less Healthcare” Podcast, your front-row seat to a revolution in American healthcare, inspired by the game-changing book by Peter Boland. Healthcare doesn’t have to be defined by endless bills, mounting debt, and a system that prioritizes profits over people. What if there’s a better way that means more health for everyone, fewer unnecessary costs, and a renewed sense of fairness in how care is delivered? The “More Health. Less Healthcare” podcast takes you inside the heart of a growing movement: one that values equity, transparency, collaboration, and, above all, real outcomes for real people. Hosted by thought leaders committed to making a difference, each episode starts with a bold question: Are we ready to do the right thing, for the right reasons, at the right price? Drawing from over 100 real-life case examples and interviews, this podcast isn’t just another critique of what’s broken. It’s your practical playbook for solutions that work—proof of concept that eradicating health disparities and cutting out waste can lead to healthier communities, a stronger economy, and a more ethical society. Learn how the hidden cost of inequity in American healthcare is draining hundreds of billions of dollars from our economy every year, and how millions of Americans endure the crushing burden of medical debt. Discover why up to a third of all healthcare spending in the U.S.—a staggering $1.4 trillion each year—has no benefit for patients and only adds to the harm. The “More Health. Less Healthcare” podcast uncovers these hard truths and turns them into a call for accountability and courage. We face a crucial choice: keep overspending on sickness care or rebalance our priorities to invest in real health creation. COVID-19 revealed the glaring gaps in our system and the disproportionate impact on minority communities, bringing discrimination and broken incentives to the forefront. The podcast tackles these issues head-on, with stories and strategies from those leading the way on public health, end-to-end care coordination, and the rebuilding of trust in our healthcare institutions. Why do traditional healthcare financing models fail us? How can we redirect wasted resources to programs that create health? What can individuals, practitioners, and policymakers do right now to drive systemic change, eliminate unnecessary care, and refocus on community-based solutions? Each episode is a masterclass in what it means to be accountable for the health of our communities. We draw on the wisdom of healthcare’s past, rooted in Hippocrates’ timeless principle—first do no harm, then try to prevent it—and update it for the 21st century. Our guests bring you groundbreaking ideas and proven methods to advance equity, commit to health creation, and embrace transparency and fairness as the guiding values of a new era. Don’t miss the conversations that matter from how to slash 26-46% of healthcare waste, to making public health programs robust statewide and nationwide, to amplifying voices that have turned health equity from an ideal into a reality. Whether you’re a patient, a clinician, a policymaker, or someone who simply cares about the future of health in America, “More Health. Less Healthcare” is your go-to resource for hope, honest dialogue, and practical steps toward a fairer, healthier tomorrow. Subscribe now and join the national conversation about how we value health, the urgent reforms we need, and how—with the right leadership and commitment—we can all experience more health and less healthcare.

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