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Handle with Care

Adam Charlap Hyman and Laura Kugel
Handle with Care
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    Episode 6: Jeanne Greenberg Rohatyn

    03/05/2026 | 33 mins.
    In Episode 6, Adam and Laura visited Jeanne Greenberg Rohatyn, founder of Salon 94 and Salon 94 Design, at her home on 94th Street — configured as part gallery, part entertaining space, and part family home. In her beautiful living room, surrounded by a painting by Julie Mehretu, a table by Diego Giacometti, a steel bow stool by Maria Pergay, and a whimsical ceramic gourd by Taxile Doat, they discussed Jeanne’s views on cross-collecting, the need for a renewed generation of design patrons, and behind-the-scenes anecdotes from her upbringing and life as an art dealer.
    Find out more about Salon 94 and Salon 94 Design, or follow Jeanne @jeannegr
    Follow our adventures @adamcharlaphyman and @laurakugel_
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    Episode 5: Peter McGough

    02/12/2026 | 35 mins.
    In Episode 5, Adam and Laura speak with New York–based artist Peter McGough. In 2019, Peter published his remarkable memoir "I’ve Seen the Future and I’m Not Going: The Art Scene and Downtown New York in the 1980s", recounting with wit and sincerity the story of his artistic duo with David McDermott, their experience as time-travellers reliving through the Victorian era, and his encounters with Keith Haring, Jean-Michel Basquiat, and Andy Warhol, among many others.

    In this episode, Peter shares his views on growing up gay in Syracuse, his singular artistic sensibility, his outlook on decorating, and offers a detailed account of his legendary work in tribute to the Oscar Wilde trial.

    Find out more about Peter's memoirs here or follow him @petertmcg
    Follow our adventures @adamcharlaphyman and @laurakugel_
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    Episode 4: Zack Winokur

    01/29/2026 | 39 mins.
    In 2026, Handle with Care returns with Episode 4, featuring New York–based theatre and opera director and producer Zack Winokur. In this episode, Adam and Laura dive into the art of set design, with Adam and Zack reflecting on their long-standing collaborations and how their shared belief in the power of world-building for the stage has evolved over time.

    The conversation moves between various influences, from 18th-century trompe l’œil to radical contemporary productions, including a show featuring sheep herded by a giant zeppelin at New York’s Armory.
    Find out more about Zack Winokur here, or follow him @winokurz
    Follow our adventures @adamcharlaphyman and @laurakugel_
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    Episode 3: Robert Couturier

    12/04/2025 | 39 mins.
    In Episode 3, Adam and Laura visit Robert Couturier, a legendary interior decorator who discusses the philosophical and psychological sides of the profession. With his infectious humor and enthusiasm, Robert speaks about how he worked with only one (fabulously wealthy) client for ten years, shares tips for working on the interiors of private jets, and unpacks how he built the multifaceted and international practice he has today.
    Find out more about Robert Couturier here, or follow him @real_robert_couturier
    Follow our adventures @adamcharlaphyman and @laurakugel_
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    Episode 2: Pierre Marie

    11/28/2025 | 37 mins.
    In Episode 2, Adam and Laura speak with the inimitable Pierre Marie. A self-described ornamentalist, he works at the crossroads of artist, designer, and decorator and is a true world-builder. After starting his career designing scarves for the great house of Hermès, he now collaborates with exceptional artisans across ancestral practices to create new objects and textiles. His work spans rugs, tapestries, stained glass, mosaics, and more.

    In this episode, Pierre Marie shares his singular vision, reflects on the importance of craftsmanship and the role of nostalgia in contemporary creation, and even speaks about the ever-inspiring power of Disney.

    Find out more about Pierre Marie Studio here, or follow him on Instagram at @pierremariepm 
    Follow our adventures @adamcharlaphyman and @laurakugel_

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About Handle with Care

A podcast by interior designer Adam Charlap Hyman and antiques dealer Laura Kugel, featuring guests who are usually irreverent, often idiosyncratic, and always experts in their corner of decorative arts and interior design. Loosely defined, the field becomes a springboard for conversations spanning art, design, collecting, antiques, theatre, architecture, history, and photography. While the topics may vary, each conversation possesses the same emotional and ideological core: to interrogate the forces that drive our material culture.
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