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In 1805, a 27-year-old French widow was handed a struggling wine business, a mountain of debt, and a legal system that said she had no right to run either. Her name was Barbe-Nicole Clicquot Ponsardin. You know her today as Veuve Clicquot.

What she built in the decades that followed didn't just save a family business — it changed how every bottle of champagne on earth is made.

In this episode of The Back Label, we follow the widow's journey from a stone house in Reims to the Russian Imperial Court — through Napoleon's blockades, a revolutionary invention made from a simple wooden board, and a shipment of 10,550 bottles that beat every competitor to market by weeks.

And then — the full pour. Nearly two hundred years after her death, a group of Finnish scuba divers found something at the bottom of the Baltic Sea that nobody expected. Her champagne. Still good.

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Flying Whale Wine - Maba Ba

The Gold: This wine boasts a beautiful color, with a deep garnet hue. Its complex bouquet reveals ripe fruits, particularly cherry, complemented by subtle notes of vanilla-spiced aromas. Rich and well-structured, this cuvée, with its silky tannins, offers a pleasingly long finish. 60% Grenache Noir | 40% Syrah 

THE ROSE GOLD: This wine boasts a beautiful color, with a deep garnet hue. Its complex bouquet reveals ripe fruits, particularly cherry, complemented by subtle notes of vanilla-spiced aromas. Rich and well-structured, this cuvée, with its silky tannins, offers a pleasingly long finish. 70% Grenache | 30% Syrah

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Topics covered:

Why restaurants are still the #1 place where wine brands are built

How distributors and suppliers decide which wines get shelf space

The role of brand ambassadors and in‑store “activations”

Real‑time POS data and how close the industry is to instant analytics

Why sampling is expensive — especially when the bottle retails for $80

The difference between impulse‑buy wines and high‑end decision‑tree wines

How store expertise varies wildly from state to state and shop to shop

Key insight: Behind every bottle on a shelf is a mix of relationships, data, sampling budgets, and strategy — not just taste.

Guest: Sherman Mohr — wine industry expert and co‑founder of SharedSpirits.com

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It's one of the most dramatic moments in wine history — and it almost didn't happen. Steven Spurrier, an Englishman running a small wine shop and the first independent wine school in Paris, organized what was supposed to be a friendly Franco-American comparison in honor of the U.S. bicentennial. His colleague Patricia Gallagher had visited Napa, tasted the wines, and believed. The California winemakers themselves had no idea their bottles were even entered.

Getting the wine to Paris was its own adventure — Patricia Gallagher sweet-talked TWA passengers into carrying bottles in their personal luggage just to get past the two-bottle limit.

The blind tasting results stunned the room. A Chardonnay from Chateau Montelena topped France's finest Burgundies. The 1973 Stag's Leap Cabernet Sauvignon outscored Château Mouton Rothschild and Château Haut-Brion. One judge demanded her ballot back. Spurrier was reportedly banned from France's prestigious wine tour circuit for a year.

The lone journalist in the room filed his story for Time magazine. It ran on page 85, next to a tire ad. Nobody thought it mattered.

Then came 2006. The same wines, tasted again — 30 years later. The French had long insisted California wines couldn't age. The rematch told a different story: all top five wines were from California.

The whole story comes alive in the film Bottle Shock — highly recommended viewing.

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The Documentary That Sparked a Wine Empire

Maba Ba traveled to Senegal to produce a documentary about Mbeubeuss, a massive wasteland outside Dakar where entire families live and work among the trash.

As the transcript states: “It’s literally a city of trash… there are people who live in that city.”

The film aimed to highlight how global environmental reforms ignore the people whose livelihoods depend on this ecosystem.

The Unexpected Path to Flying Whale Wine

Before leaving for Senegal, a woman told Maba about a talented French winemaker.

After filming, he flew to Barcelona, drove to Perpignan, and met the winemaker in person.

Their connection was instant — shared language (both speak French), shared passion, and shared ambition.

Flying Whale Wine, born from a collaboration between Maba Ba and winemaker Didier Rodriguez, is rooted in the rich terroir of Roussillon at Domaine Sol Payre. Established in 1913, this family estate has cultivated its 56 hectares for over a century, guided by passion, tradition, and a deep respect for the land.

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