Staying Human with Dr. Vivek Murthy

What is nature trying to teach us that we’re too distracted to notice?
Botanist and author Robin Wall Kimmerer joins Vivek for a conversation about slowing down and paying attention to the living world around us. She invites us to see the land as “not something but someone.” Robin is a scientist, a member of the Citizen Potawatomi Nation and the author of the beloved bestsellers Braiding Sweetgrass, Gathering Moss, and The Serviceberry. For decades she has helped people see nature through both science and Indigenous wisdom.

In this episode:

Why we feel more alive and at ease in nature, and what gets in the way

How our phones and busy lives pull our attention away from the world around us

What changes when you think of the land as a “someone” instead of a “something”

How we started treating land as property instead of home

Making room for both science and the sacred in how we see the world

Why a “gift economy” can shift our ways of consumption

How everyday giving, like bringing soup to a neighbor, can help ease loneliness

What success looks like when it’s about meaning rather than wealth or status

The poems and places Robin turns to when she needs hope

A closing reading of Mary Oliver’s “Wild Geese”

We want to hear from you: What’s something nature has taught you about how to live a more meaningful life? Leave us a message at 1-833-74-HUMAN (1-833-744-8626) or email hello@stayinghuman.us.

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Vivek talks with Pulitzer Prize-winning writer Ayad Akhtar about his new novel, The Radiance, and what it means to be truly connected to the world—including the parts of it which defy easy explanation.
In this novel, a professor recovering from a hit-and-run bike accident grapples with two accounts of what's happening to him: the clinical, scientific one reflected in scans and diagnoses, and an experience that feels far more spiritual. 
Vivek and Ayad follow this tension into their own lives, including how mystery has shaped their own beliefs and life experiences.They discuss everything from the craft of writing, to protecting our attention, to existential questions of what it means to be human in the age of machines and AI. They also get deeply personal with Vivek sharing about time he spent recently at an ashram in India, and Ayad describing why dreams are so important to him that he’s actually slept with a pencil tied to his finger to better record them. This is a provocative, surprising conversation that brings together both heart and mind.
Is there a moment in your life that was profound, spiritual, and hard to explain — one that shaped who you are? Leave a message at 1-833-74-HUMAN (1-833-744-8626) or email hello@stayinghuman.us. We'd love to hear from you.

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About Ayad
“The Great American Novelist” | Esquire Magazine 
The Radiance Book tour 
Ayad Akhtar’s recent essay “What Were My Dreams Trying To Tell Me?” | The Atlantic

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What does it really mean to heal? 
What is the difference between curing and healing? 
What can we offer one another when something can’t be fixed?
Dr. Rachel Naomi Remen spent her life exploring what it means to be human. As Vivek puts it, Rachel was “a doctor’s doctor.” In addition to practicing and teaching at UCSF and writing the bestsellers Kitchen Table Wisdom and My Grandfather’s Blessings, Rachel created The Healer’s Art, a course that helped generations of doctors, including Vivek, find the sacred in medicine.
Following her death at age 88, Vivek sits down with fellow physician and his college roommate Dr. Akil Palanisamy to remember their beloved mentor, who profoundly shaped them both as doctors and as human beings.
Through intimate stories and archival excerpts of Dr. Remen herself, they explore her enduring wisdom: why our wounds can become sources of connection, why listening can be an act of healing, how to live with uncertainty, and why healing remains possible even when curing is not. Vivek and Akil also share about how they turned to Rachel during some of their most difficult moments.
This episode is an invitation to anyone wrestling with loss and uncertainty. Or simply searching for ways we can help one another heal.
Special thanks to Commonweal for sharing excerpts of Vivek’s last public conversation with Dr. Rachel Remen. 
(06:41) Vivek and Akil recount their experiences first meeting Rachel
(10:57) On the power of listening
(13:51) How Rachel mentored Akil and Vivek through a challenging times
(19:30) The Wounded Healer
(25:31) Elements of mystery in medicine
(27:55) Akil shares a passage of Rachel's writings on mystery
(32:53) On grappling with uncertainty, and Rachel's spirituality
(35:59) Fixing vs. Serving
(41:33) Rachel's focus on those the system can leave out
(43:00) What would Rachel have thought about AI in healthcare?
(45:42) Vivek and Akil reflect on grieving Rachel's passing and their final visits
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Dr. Rachel Naomi Remen
The Healer’s Art 
Kitchen Table Wisdom
My Grandfather’s Blessings
Dr Remen & Vivek’s conversation: Can We All Become Healers? 

Commonweal
Commonweal is hosting a virtual memorial service for Dr. Remen on Oct 3, 2026. Please register here

Dr. Akil Palanisamy 
The TIGER Protocol, by Dr. Akil Palanisamy
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Angela Duckworth changed the way millions of people think about achievement with her bestselling book Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance. Yet ten years later, she’s come to believe that grit and willpower are only part of the story.

In this conversation, Angela joins Vivek to explore a powerful question: How much of who we become is shaped not just by what’s inside us, but by the people, places, and circumstances around us?

Drawing from her new book Situated, Angela shares what she’s learned about creating environments that bring out our best—from the objects within arm’s reach to the friends, mentors, workplaces, and communities we choose. She and Vivek also talk candidly about ambition, parenting, and the difference between pursuing something out of fear versus genuine purpose. They also talk about why success and achievement can feel empty when we’re chasing it for the wrong reasons.

Together, Angela and Vivek ask: What does it really mean to succeed? How can we shape our lives around what matters most?

About Angela

Her books 
Situated: Find the People and Places that Bring Out Your Best 
Grit: The Power of Passion and Perserverance 

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How many of us have felt the deep need to belong, but weren’t sure where to start? 
In this episode, recorded live at WBUR in Boston, Vivek sits down with the Harvard professor, author, and friend for a wide-ranging conversation on building community. Robert Putnam saw America's social fracturing coming decades before anyone else did. His book, Bowling Alone: The Collapse and Revival of American Community, put a name to the collapse of community life in the U.S, tracking the disappearance of the bowling leagues, church groups, and civic clubs that used to hold neighborhoods together. More recently, his ideas have reached a new generation through Join or Die, a documentary that has screened hundreds of times in communities across the country.
Putnam traces his own lifelong preoccupation with connection back to a lonely childhood in Port Clinton, Ohio, and a mother who refused to let it stay that way. He unpacks “social capital” — what it is, and why it matters for both our health and our democracy. Bob also offers wisdom and hope from the last time America clawed its way back from a time of strikingly similar isolation, inequality, and division during the Progressive Era. From that history, he shares three lessons for us all today today, as we seek to build more connection in our lives. 
Putnam also opens up about his wife Rosemary, one of the most talented “social capitalists” he knows, and reflects on what he holds onto — quite literally, in old photographs — when he needs to remember what matters most.
Join Or Die Documentary: https://joinordiefilm.com/
Bob Putnam: http://robertdputnam.com/

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