Sad Song Queens

New York rock veteran Jesse Malin joins Sad Song Queens hosts Laura Webb and Lindsay Wolfington to break down "My Little Life," a song that's taken on an entirely new meaning after the health crisis that nearly ended his career. Malin has spent more than two decades as one of New York's most beloved rock artists — his 2003 solo debut The Fine Art of Self-Destruction earned him praise from Rolling Stone, and his songs have since been covered by Bruce Springsteen, Lucinda Williams, Green Day, Elvis Costello, Bleachers, and Counting Crows. In 2023, Malin suffered a rare spinal stroke that left him paralyzed from the waist down. Rather than step out of the spotlight, he learned to stand again and returned to the stage the following year, later channeling the experience into his off-Broadway debut, Silver Manhattan, a Drama Desk–nominated autobiographical production, and his new memoir, Almost Grown: A New York Memoir.

"My Little Life" plays a pivotal role in Silver Manhattan, and the hosts open by unpacking why the song — written years before Malin's stroke — feels almost prophetic now. Malin explains that he originally wrote it about people in his life who struggled with the simplest, everyday things: friends and family members who felt like they never quite fit in, for whom just getting through the day carried real weight. 

The conversation moves into how "My Little Life" ended up in Silver Manhattan in the first place. Malin describes handing his entire back catalog over to the play's director and co-writer to cherry-pick from, and being genuinely surprised by some of their choices — only to find that hearing his own songs performed in a new context, in front of an audience, changed how he understood them. He's candid about the physical challenge of performing at all after his stroke, describing the months of physical therapy it took just to stand and balance long enough to sing one song upright for his sold-out Beacon Theater shows.

Malin also opens up about the origins of Silver Manhattan itself — conceived the day after that Beacon Theater show, when a friend suggested he turn his catalog and his story into an ongoing New York residency rather than retreat. What started as that idea grew into a 92-minute rock show built with his full band, tracing his life from his old hardcore band Heart Attack and his punk band D Generation through his solo career, while also functioning, in his words, as a love letter to Manhattan and to the freewheeling, walking-the-streets life he lost and then had to rediscover from a wheelchair.

Elsewhere in the episode, Malin talks about writing "Shane," a song named for his friend and hero Shane McGowan of the Pogues, and how singing that song live took on new weight after McGowan's death, and after Malin himself began touring in a wheelchair. He and the hosts also dig into Malin's reflections on chasing music before the internet made it instantly accessible,  his teenage years in the New York hardcore and punk scenes and its DIY attitude, and how PMA became a guiding life mantra. Don’t miss this candid and reflective conversation between the Sad Song Queens and a New York music legend.
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Grammy-winning, Tony- and Emmy-nominated singer-songwriter Sara Bareilles joins Sad Song Queens hosts Laura Webb and Lindsay Wolfington for one of the most emotionally raw conversations the podcast has ever recorded. The episode centers on “Forever,” the penultimate track from Bareilles’ seventh studio album, Good Grief, released August 28th — a record built entirely around loss, memory, and the power of music to heal. 
Sara Bareilles broke through in 2007 with “Love Song,” pushing her platinum debut Little Voice into the Billboard 200’s top ten, and later composed the music and lyrics for Broadway’s Waitress, earning a Tony nomination before also performing in the show and in the 2022 revival of Into the Woods. The making of Good Grief was documented in the film Sara Bareilles: Good Grief, which premiered at Tribeca before moving into theaters — companion viewing the hosts reference throughout the episode.
At the center of the conversation is the origin story of “Forever” itself, a discussion which brings all 3 ladies to tears. Bareilles details how the song developed over time, initially written while grappling with two overlapping losses in 2020. The song sat unfinished until Bareilles’ close friend and Waitress co-star Gavin Creel was later diagnosed with the illness that eventually took his life, and she reshaped the song with him in mind. By the end, she says, it had absorbed multiple losses, including her own experience with infertility.
The episode also digs into the song’s winding production and Sara’s experience claiming production ownership on this record for the first time in her career, after years of having her demos routinely replaced in the studio.
Grief itself is the philosophical backbone of the conversation. Bareilles reframes it not as something to fix, but as proof of enduring love, drawing on a conversation with poet Andrea Gibson about how the people we lose live on through the people who loved them. Host Laura Webb shares her own experience of ambiguous loss watching her father live with Alzheimer’s, and she and Bareilles connect on “signs” they receive from loved ones and what helps them move through loss. Sara also discusses the upcoming Good Grief Tour — her first since 2019 — and the fan voicemail project she launched alongside it, inviting listeners to share their own stories of loss.
Beyond “Forever,” the episode traces melancholy as a throughline across Bareilles’ catalog, reflecting on earlier songs like “Gravity” and “Manhattan” to this new album, and how her songwriting has widened over time from romantic breakups to the many other ways people leave each other. Whether you’re a longtime fan, a Good Grief documentary viewer, a songwriter curious about her process, or someone processing your own grief, this is an unusually candid look at how Bareilles turns loss into something you can hold onto. Grab those tissues for a good cry with Sara Bareilles and the Sad Song Queens.
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My Morning Jacket frontman Jim James joins Laura Webb and Lindsay Wolfington to unpack “Get The Point,” a beautiful and sincere breakup song from the 2015 album, The Waterfall. Recorded in a cliffside Stinson Beach studio, the track was written during the collapse of a relationship James describes as an “unbelievable cosmic love” tangled up with active alcoholism and self-hatred.

Jim opens up about writing from inside the fog of addiction, learning to trust his own truth over someone else’s, and why his favorite songs — like his own — are always “sad yet hopeful.” He also gets candid about sobriety, mental health, and why musicians talking openly about struggle matters more than ever.

The conversation lands just ahead of Wowed Out, James’s first solo album in eight years, dropping August 28. Expect deep-dive musicianship talk (that pedal steel!), reflections about the universe, music and Kermit the Frog, and one of the most honest discussions of a breakup song you’ll hear this year.
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Our theme song is "All My Favorite Songs" by Weezer, courtesy of Crush Music, Atlantic Recording Company, and WEA International Inc, a Warner Music Company.
Our Sad Song Queen image was created by Keahu Kahuanui. 
Check out our friends at The Songwriting School of Los Angeles!

Legendary lyricist Bernie Taupin — Elton John’s songwriting partner of over 50 years and the mind behind “Your Song,” “Tiny Dancer,” “Goodbye Yellow Brick Road,” and “Candle in the Wind” — returns to the Sad Song Queens podcast for part two of an intimate conversation with hosts Laura Webb and Lindsay Wolfington.
This episode dives deep into “One Hundred Ways,” the poignant closing track from Taupin’s new solo album The Sea Has No Mercy (out October 23rd), his first solo record in nearly four decades. The song features a duet with his daughter, Georgey Devon Taupin, and Bernie opens up about writing directly to his children, confronting mortality, and why he chose to end the song abruptly rather than fade it out.
The conversation ranges far beyond the single track: Bernie reflects on what he calls his “late-life manifesto,” the emotional and creative differences between writing alone versus with Elton John, his process of people-watching for song inspiration, his honest (and blunt) advice for aspiring songwriters, and the true stories — and fabricated ones — behind some of his most beloved lyrics, including “Don’t Let the Sun Go Down on Me” and “I’m Still Standing.”
Whether you’re a longtime Elton John fan, a songwriter looking for insight from one of music’s greatest lyricists, or just here for a good cry, this episode delivers the raw honesty Sad Song Queens is known for.
Guest: Bernie Taupin Featuring: “One Hundred Ways” ft. Georgey Devon Taupin, from The Sea Has No Mercy (out October 23rd
Topics:Elton John songwriting partnership, mortality and legacy, fatherhood, songwriting advice, autobiographical vs. fictional lyrics
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To help support these artists’ as well as their favorite sad songs, please check out our Official Spotify Playlist! 
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If you like what you hear, you can buy us a coffee!
Our theme song is "All My Favorite Songs" by Weezer, courtesy of Crush Music, Atlantic Recording Company, and WEA International Inc, a Warner Music Company.
Our Sad Song Queen image was created by Keahu Kahuanui. 
Check out our friends at The Songwriting School of Los Angeles!

Have you ever felt the weight of emotional pain wrapped in a melody? Join us on this heartfelt journey in the latest episode of the Sad Song Queens podcast, where hosts Laura Webb and Lindsay Wolfington sit down with the indie pop duo Lucius—Jess Wolfe and Holly Laessig—to explore the profound intricacies behind their poignant song "White Lies" from their album "Second Nature. "

Lucius opens up about their creative process, sharing the stories behind songs that emerged during a challenging period, motherhood, and the lingering shadows of the COVID-19 pandemic. As they discuss the complexities of relationships, love, and longing, listeners will discover how sadness can be both a source of inspiration and a powerful tool for healing. The conversation touches on the importance of collaboration in songwriting, revealing how their sisterhood in music has fostered artistic growth and resilience. 

As the Sad Song Queens, Laura and Lindsay guide this intimate discussion, inviting listeners to embrace their feelings and find solace in sad songs. The episode also highlights the unique challenges faced by mothers in the music industry, offering valuable tips on how to navigate life on the road with young children.  

Join us as we uncover the stories behind songs that resonate with loneliness, introspection, and the bittersweet reality of life. Tune in for a blend of artist interviews, songwriting stories, and the magic that happens when music meets emotion. 

Don’t miss this chance to experience the artistic journey of Lucius and the emotional depth of their music. Let the Sad Song Queens guide you through a world where sadness is celebrated, and every note tells a story. Press play and immerse yourself in the soft and sentimental sounds of "White Lies. " Your heart will thank you.
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If you like what you hear, you can buy us a coffee!
Our theme song is "All My Favorite Songs" by Weezer, courtesy of Crush Music, Atlantic Recording Company, and WEA International Inc, a Warner Music Company.
Our Sad Song Queen image was created by Keahu Kahuanui. 
Check out our friends at The Songwriting School of Los Angeles!