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Anxiety Matters

Bonnie Zucker & Bonnie Zucker
Anxiety Matters
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  • Anxiety Matters

    More Than Clutter: Understanding & Treating Hoarding Disorder with Guest Dr. David Tolin

    09/17/2026 | 47 mins.
    The Bonnies talk about hoarding with Dr. David Tolin, a clinician and researcher who has worked extensively in this area. They begin by distinguishing hoarding disorder from ordinary messiness or collecting, and note that hoarding is characterized by difficulty discarding items, strong attachment to possessions, and often excessive acquisition.
    They talk about how hoarding develops over time, including early onset in childhood or adolescence, and how stress or major life changes can make symptoms worse. Also, genetic factors and the idea that hoarding can run in families, while still requiring attention to behavior and environment.
    They then focus on treatment. Dr. Tolin explains that hoarding is not the same as OCD, even though it has often been grouped with obsessive compulsive disorders. He describes current treatment approaches that emphasize decision-making training, problem-solving, distress tolerance, cognitive questioning, and motivational interviewing rather than simply forcing the person to throw things away.
    They also discuss the importance of insight and motivation, since many people with hoarding disorder do not initially see themselves as having a problem and how clinicians can use Socratic questions to help people examine what their possessions mean to them and whether keeping them fits their values.
    Finally, they address family concerns, childhood hoarding behaviors, and the limits of medication research noting that there are no randomized controlled trials of medication for hoarding disorder, though some open trials have suggested possible benefit from certain medications.
    HIGHLIGHTS:
    1:05 Clutter Versus Hoarding
    4:21 The Fire Changed Everything
    7:44 Meet Dr. David Tolin
    8:38 Hoarding Is Not OCD
    11:24 Defining Hoarding Disorder
    15:32 Trauma, Stress, and Risk
    18:56 Rethinking Treatment Goals
    21:26 Therapy for Hoarding
    27:47 Time, Values, and Insight
    35:06 Health Hazards and Questions
    36:21 A Severe Hoarding Case
    39:26 Medication Evidence
    41:38 Pediatric Hoarding Concerns
    45:23 Insight and Self-Referral

    connect with Dr. David Tolin
    website: https://drtolin.com

    CONNECT WITH THE BONNIE ZUCKERS:
    Bonnie Zucker Ph.D.(west)
    website: https://www.bonniezuckerphd.com
    Newsletter sign-up: https://bonnie-zucker-ph-d.kit.com/d44b57fcdf
    Books by Bonnie West: https://a.co/d/04aNJFDZ

    Bonnie Zucker Psy.D. (east)
    website: https://www.bonniezuckerandassociates.com
    Books by Bonnie East: https://shorturl.at/MxvRZ
    The content of Anxiety Matters Podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute mental health or medical advice, nor is it a substitute for professional mental health or medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. If you are experiencing a mental health crisis, call emergency services or a local crisis line.
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    Feeling Understood: The Key to Lowering Stress & Improving Relationships

    09/10/2026 | 19 mins.
    In this episode, the BZW and BZE talk about how feeling understood in relationships can affect stress, well-being, and even physical symptoms. They discuss how anxiety is often misunderstood by partners and family members, and how advice or pressure can sometimes leave people feeling invalidated.
    They also focus on validation as a practical response, including finding the kernel of truth in what someone is feeling and saying things like “that makes sense” or “I can see this is hard for you.” They explain the difference between offering solutions and offering support, and suggest asking whether someone wants advice, validation, or something else.
    HIGHLIGHTS:
    1:36 Feeling Seen, Feeling Stressed
    3:54 When Loved Ones Miss It
    5:45 Fixing Versus Validating
    8:44 Why Validation Works
    12:13 Find the Kernel of Truth
    14:22 The Need to Feel Known
    16:30 Practical Takeaways for Partners

    mentioned in episode
    How to Know a Person (book): https://a.co/d/04qD6vzj

    CONNECT WITH THE BONNIE ZUCKERS:
    Bonnie Zucker Ph.D.(west)
    website: https://www.bonniezuckerphd.com
    Newsletter sign-up: https://bonnie-zucker-ph-d.kit.com/d44b57fcdf
    Books by Bonnie West: https://a.co/d/04aNJFDZ

    Bonnie Zucker Psy.D. (east)
    website: https://www.bonniezuckerandassociates.com
    Books by Bonnie East: https://shorturl.at/MxvRZ
    The content of Anxiety Matters Podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute mental health or medical advice, nor is it a substitute for professional mental health or medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. If you are experiencing a mental health crisis, call emergency services or a local crisis line.
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    Avoiding the Doctor or Going Too Much: How to Manage Health Anxiety

    09/03/2026 | 17 mins.
    In this episode, the Bonnies talk about doctor anxiety and how it can lead people to avoid appointments or feel intense worry before routine tests and screenings. They discuss the value of recommended preventive care, the importance of trusting relationships with doctors, and the role of therapy when health fears become difficult to manage.
    They also look at the balance between appropriate screening and excessive testing, including how more scans or wearable devices can sometimes increase stress.
    HIGHLIGHTS:
    1:33 Vet Fears, Doctor Fears
    2:40 Screening Protects Health
    5:45 Facing Mammogram Anxiety
    7:12 Trusting Doctors, Timing Tests
    10:22 Full-Body Scan Dilemma
    14:12 Too Many Tests
    14:57 Wearables and Anxiety

    mentioned in episode
    Less Medicine More Health by Dr. H. Gilbert Welch: https://a.co/d/01SYYhru

    CONNECT WITH THE BONNIE ZUCKERS:
    Bonnie Zucker Ph.D.(west)
    website: https://www.bonniezuckerphd.com
    Newsletter sign-up: https://bonnie-zucker-ph-d.kit.com/d44b57fcdf
    Books by Bonnie West: https://a.co/d/04aNJFDZ

    Bonnie Zucker Psy.D. (east)
    website: https://www.bonniezuckerandassociates.com
    Books by Bonnie East: https://shorturl.at/MxvRZ
    The content of Anxiety Matters Podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute mental health or medical advice, nor is it a substitute for professional mental health or medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. If you are experiencing a mental health crisis, call emergency services or a local crisis line.
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    Medication Matters: What Every Parent Should Know About Psychiatric Medication for Kids & Teens with Guest Dr. Ethan Hockheiser

    08/27/2026 | 41 mins.
    The Bonnies talk with Dr. Ethan Hochheiser, a board-certified psychiatrist in general and child & adolescent psychiatry, about when medication may be appropriate for children and teens with anxiety, ADHD, OCD, depression, and related concerns.
    They discuss how therapy is often tried first, but medication may be considered sooner when symptoms are severe, functioning is impaired, or treatment is not helping enough.
    They review common SSRI side effects in children, including nausea, diarrhea, headaches, temporary activation, and possible weight gain, as well as less common risks such as suicidal thoughts and mania in those with a predisposition.
    They also discuss how SSRIs may work, the role of monitoring and family history, and the goal of improving symptoms and tapering medication after sustained remission.
    The episode closes with discussion of OCD, premenstrual dysphoric symptoms, and ADHD, including how SSRIs can help OCD and PMDD and how ADHD often responds well to medication.
    HIGHLIGHTS:
    4:17 Meet Dr. Ethan Hochheiser
    9:04 When Medication Makes Sense
    15:12 SSRI Risks and Side Effects
    19:48 What Medications Mean for the Brain
    23:17 OCD, Exposure, and SSRIs
    27:06 Treating Premenstrual Symptoms
    28:14 How SSRIs Work
    31:12 Stopping Medication Safely
    32:43 Are We Over-diagnosing ADHD?
    36:48 ADHD Treatment Advantages

    connect with Dr. Hochheiser
    website: https://www.ethanhochheisermd.com

    CONNECT WITH THE BONNIE ZUCKERS:
    Bonnie Zucker Ph.D.(west)
    website: https://www.bonniezuckerphd.com
    Newsletter sign-up: https://bonnie-zucker-ph-d.kit.com/d44b57fcdf
    Books by Bonnie West: https://a.co/d/04aNJFDZ

    Bonnie Zucker Psy.D. (east)
    website: https://www.bonniezuckerandassociates.com
    Books by Bonnie East: https://shorturl.at/MxvRZ
    The content of Anxiety Matters Podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute mental health or medical advice, nor is it a substitute for professional mental health or medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. If you are experiencing a mental health crisis, call emergency services or a local crisis line.
  • Anxiety Matters

    Why Is Asking For Help So Hard? Tips on Managing All Shades of Social Anxiety

    08/20/2026 | 19 mins.
    This episode focuses on social anxiety in everyday life, including difficulty asking for help, making small requests, and fearing judgment or inconvenience.
    The Bonnies talk about exposure exercises for facing these situations, such as asking for samples or interrupting someone to make a request, and explain how these exercises can show that the feared reaction often does not happen.
    They also discuss planning for harder outcomes, common forms of avoidance like delaying calls or texts, and encouraging small behavior changes such as saying no, asking for help, and starting difficult tasks sooner.
    HIGHLIGHTS:
    1:49 Whole Foods Exposure Practice
    7:36 Handling Rude Reactions
    11:46 Asking for Testimonials
    15:48 Everyday Social Anxiety Triggers

    CONNECT WITH THE BONNIE ZUCKERS:
    Bonnie Zucker Ph.D.(west)
    website: https://www.bonniezuckerphd.com
    Newsletter sign-up: https://bonnie-zucker-ph-d.kit.com/d44b57fcdf
    Books by Bonnie West: https://a.co/d/04aNJFDZ

    Bonnie Zucker Psy.D. (east)
    website: https://www.bonniezuckerandassociates.com
    Books by Bonnie East: https://shorturl.at/MxvRZ
    The content of Anxiety Matters Podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute mental health or medical advice, nor is it a substitute for professional mental health or medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. If you are experiencing a mental health crisis, call emergency services or a local crisis line.
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About Anxiety Matters
What are the odds of two psychologists, both named Bonnie Zucker, and both specializing in anxiety and cognitive-behavioral therapy, finding each other across the country? When they met, their connection was instant and electric. Join them here as they explore anxiety from every angle - unpacking disorders, examining societal stressors, and hosting conversations with dynamic guests. They’ll share research-backed strategies to help you and your loved ones manage anxiety, and bring warmth, wisdom, and humor to the conversation. Whether you're curious about the topic or seeking specific tools, the two Dr. Bonnie Zuckers offer expert advice, inspiration, and plenty of engaging moments. Don’t miss out on this compelling and insightful journey. *The content of Anxiety Matters Podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute mental health or medical advice, nor is it a substitute for professional mental health or medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. If you are experiencing a mental health crisis, call emergency services or a local crisis line.*
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