A Place of Yes | A Grief Podcast

Dr. Darlene “Dr. Dee” Williams has experienced a level of loss most people can’t imagine. Over the course of several years, she lost 14 members of her family—including both parents, her only sibling, and close relatives—all connected to the long-term impact of 9/11. What followed wasn’t just grief, but a complete reshaping of identity, family, and what it means to keep going when so much has been taken.
In this conversation, Dr. Dee shares how she carries that loss while still choosing a life that holds joy. She and Heather talk about grief seasons, why grief isn’t linear, and how the idea of “growing around grief” can shift everything. Dr. Dee explains why joy and happiness are not the same, how guilt can show up when life starts to feel good again, and why community and connection are essential in navigating loss. It’s a conversation about surviving the unimaginable, honoring what’s been lost, and discovering that even after profound grief, joy is still possible.
Resources & Ways to Connect
Dr. Dee Williams Website: https://www.drdarlenewilliams.com/

Email: [email protected]

Jake’s Help from Heaven Website: http://jakeshelpfromheaven.org/

Jake’s Help from Heaven Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jakeshelp

Jake’s Help from Heaven Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jakeshelp

APOY Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aplaceofyespodcast

Heather’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heathersstraughter
Our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@aplaceofyespodcast

Robert Espinoza has spent his career advocating for dignity in caregiving and long-term care—but his understanding of loss is deeply personal. After losing both of his parents and surviving a near-fatal heart attack at 39, Robert’s perspective on grief, mortality, and what it means to be cared for has been fundamentally transformed.
In this conversation, he shares how those experiences reshaped his purpose and the way he moves through the world today. The discussion explores the contrast between sudden and anticipated loss, the emotional weight of surviving a life-threatening event, and the quiet ways grief shows up in moments of joy. It also expands into a broader, urgent conversation about caregiving, healthcare systems, and why dignity and compassion must be at the center of how we support one another—both personally and as a society.
Resources & Ways to Connect
Subscribe to Robert’s Substack, Care Actually: https://careactually.substack.com

Jake’s Help from Heaven Website: http://jakeshelpfromheaven.org/

Jake’s Help from Heaven Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jakeshelp

Jake’s Help from Heaven Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jakeshelp

APOY Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aplaceofyespodcast

Heather’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heathersstraughter

Our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@aplaceofyespodcast

Katrina Labate joins Heather to share what it means to lose your only sibling when the loss is sudden, disorienting, and far too soon. Her sister, Maria, was just 30 when she died after a rapid and devastating cancer diagnosis, leaving behind not only a close-knit family, but a future Katrina assumed they would share. In this conversation, Katrina reflects on their childhood together, the adult friendship they were just beginning to step into, and the particular heartbreak of sibling grief, a loss that is often deeply felt and far too rarely named.
Heather and Katrina talk about the milestones that keep grief moving, the emptiness of becoming the only one left to hold certain memories, and the quiet ways loss resurfaces years later. They also explore what it means to keep living fully after profound loss, how joy and grief can sit side by side, and why Maria’s presence is still part of the biggest moments in Katrina’s life. It’s a tender, thoughtful conversation about sisterhood, memory, and carrying love forward after loss.
Resources & Ways to Connect
Our Sweet Maria: A Father’s Story of Love, Loss, and Hope: https://www.amazon.com/Our-Sweet-Maria-Story-Loss/dp/1667878390

A Place of Yes Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aplaceofyespodcast/

Heather’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heathersstraughter/

Jake’s Help from Heaven Website: https://jakeshelpfromheaven.org/

Jake’s Help from Heaven Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jakeshelp/

Jake’s Help from Heaven Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jakeshelpfromheaven

A Place of Yes YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@aplaceofyespodcast

Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-place-of-yes-a-grief-podcast/id1725899363
Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5aYEz4dvQXkux0x320eVFX

Chad Griffin was just 20 years old when his brother was diagnosed with cancer and died within months. Years later, he would lose his sister to alcoholism and his mother as well — a succession of losses that reshaped his understanding of family, faith, anxiety, and what it means to live with grief over decades, not days.
In this conversation, Chad reflects on early numbness and escapism, the anxiety that followed his sister’s death, and the long road back through therapy, meditation, and deep introspection. He and Heather talk about compound grief, anticipatory grief, and the way loss evolves over a lifetime — shifting from raw pain to longing, from fear to acceptance. Chad shares how saved voicemails, AI-generated images, and simply saying their names have become acts of remembrance, and why honoring the full relationship — including the suffering — is part of healing. It’s a conversation about feeling the feels, facing what hurts, and discovering that on the other side of pain can be unexpected beauty.
Resources & Ways to Connect
Jake’s Help from Heaven Website: http://jakeshelpfromheaven.org/

Jake’s Help from Heaven Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jakeshelp

Jake’s Help from Heaven Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jakeshelp

APOY Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aplaceofyespodcast

Heather’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heathersstraughter

Our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@aplaceofyespodcast

Heidi Dunstan is a certified grief educator, author, and speaker — and she became that after losing her husband, Mike, suddenly from a massive heart attack just two days after Christmas and the day before her 40th birthday. In a single hour, her life shifted from planning a surprise birthday party to learning how to survive a loss that rewrote everything, including the holidays that followed.
In this conversation, Heidi and Heather talk about why “grief is love” is more than a comforting phrase, and how judgment can quietly shut grieving people down. Heidi shares why common lines like “I’m sorry for your loss,” “you’re so strong,” and “at least…” can miss the mark, and what matters more instead: presence, specifics, and the courage to simply show up. They also explore the overlooked secondary losses that come with grief — shifting friendships, silence from people who don’t know what to say, and the complicated pressure to grieve “the right way” — along with practical language that helps people feel seen, safe, and supported.
Resources & Ways to Connect
Jake’s Help from Heaven Website: http://jakeshelpfromheaven.org/

Jake’s Help from Heaven Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jakeshelp

Jake’s Help from Heaven Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jakeshelp

APOY Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aplaceofyespodcast

Heather’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heathersstraughter

Our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@aplaceofyespodcast

Heidi Dunstan Website: https://heididunstan.ca/