The Necessary Conversation

This week on The Necessary Conversation, it’s just Chad and Mary Lou. Haley is off galavanting again and Bob is still recovering. We miss you both. ❤️
🇷🇺 Trump signed an order waiving sanctions on Russia days before they were set to take effect — right after agreeing to buy Putin’s diesel. Ukraine says Musk’s Starlink restrictions have left them unable to intercept Russian drones killing civilians. Zelensky called the deal “wrong” and said he’s done with Trump. Even Republicans pushed back — Thom Tillis called it “beyond irresponsible” and John Cornyn said “Lindsey would be appalled.” We ask Mary Lou: do you think Putin has blackmail on Trump?
🤡 Trump’s new press secretary Katie Zacharia lasted five days. Her only briefing was 14 minutes long. She claimed to be an attorney — turns out she took the California bar exam and failed, and was never licensed anywhere. She is now the 11th high-profile member of Trump’s administration to leave or be fired. We run through the full list. We ask Mary Lou: does Trump know how to pick the best people?
🚨 Homeland Security agents raided Congresswoman Ilhan Omar’s home three weeks before the midterms, seizing her phone, passport, and computers. The investigation centers on immigration paperwork her late father filed when she was a child. No charges have been filed. No evidence has been made public. Trump officials reviewed her records in 2019 and didn’t find enough for a full investigation. Legal experts say denaturalization is extremely rare. We ask: why now, three weeks before an election?
✈️ We simmer down to talk about our favorite places we’ve ever galavanted, in honor of Haley being gone.
💀 Trump posted multiple videos of people being killed by big cats — including footage of the fatal tiger attack on 23-year-old William Chapman at a zoo in England. Then he posted an AI video of himself wrestling the tiger and befriending it set to “The Lion Sleeps Tonight.” Chapman’s family pleaded for people to stop sharing the footage, saying it’s causing them severe distress. We ask: why does the president keep posting videos of people being killed?
👊 At a rally in Youngstown, Ohio, a woman wearing a “Release the Epstein Files” shirt was punched in the face, jumped on, and had her hair ripped out by MAGA attendees while the crowd chanted “USA.” Trump mocked her from the stage, called her “scum” and a “fat guy,” and told her to go on a diet. No one has been arrested or charged. We ask Mary Lou: did she deserve to get punched in the face?
🏫 The 369th mass shooting of the year happened at an elementary school in Bend, Oregon. A 16-year-old gunman killed three children — ages 5, 8, and 11 — and a 25-year-old teacher. A father carrying a concealed weapon followed the shooter inside and killed him. Despite children being murdered, there is zero movement in government to even discuss changing gun laws. Guns remain the number one cause of death for children in America. We ask Mary Lou: do you think our gun laws are working?
Just Chad and Mary Lou this week. No punches pulled.
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In this midweek episode Chad and Mary Lou discuss the upcoming midterms and Chad shows Mary Lou some clips of the candidates running for office in Mary Lou's home state of Oklahoma.
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This week on The Necessary Conversation we discuss:
☠️ Trump and Hegseth announced they’re going to execute a man by firing squad and livestream it on the internet for anyone to watch — including children. The execution of former Army Maj. Nidal Hasan is scheduled for December 3rd, just in time for Christmas. It would be the first U.S. military execution since 1961. The only countries that still do public executions? Afghanistan, Yemen, North Korea, and Somalia. After massive backlash, Trump started flip-flopping — one day after approving the plan. We ask Mary Lou: are public executions Christian?
🚨 ICE agents shot a man seven times in the neck while his 5-year-old child sat in the back seat. The lead agent, Brenden Cuni, was wearing construction clothes with nothing identifying him as law enforcement. Federal judges have previously questioned his conduct, he’s been sued for tasing a handcuffed man and forcing a pregnant woman to the ground, and doorbell video contradicted his sworn account in another case. Five thousand people marched in Manhattan in protest. We ask: how many times can ICE shoot into a car with a child before you denounce Trump?
🇷🇺 Trump made a deal with Putin to buy Russian diesel in exchange for easing sanctions — sanctions that were imposed over the invasion of Ukraine. Zelensky said he was blindsided and called it “not fair and not honest.” Trump’s response? “I suggest they get a new leader.” We ask: why does Trump like Putin so much?
🐴 We simmer down for Mary Lou to share something about horses that most people don’t know.
🏆 Trump threw a public tantrum after the Nobel Peace Prize went to South African judge Navi Pillay instead of him. He called her a “mystery person,” sanctioned the International Criminal Court where she served, and posted a rambling screed claiming he should have won eight Nobel Peace Prizes. He called it “an indelible stain on Norway.” Pillay joked she might share the prize with him. We read his unhinged post in full.
🦠 A lab technician at a Russian plague research institute died after a broken test tube incident, and nearly 200 people were placed under medical observation. A watchdog group revealed the NIH funded nearly $780,000 in research connected to the lab. Trump says Putin has it under control. We ask: does it worry you that Russia may be developing the plague and Trump is brushing it off? Remember when he said COVID would magically disappear?
🎤 Trump’s new press secretary Katie Zacharia has a history of calling Bill Gates a “eugenicist,” demanding the suspension of habeas corpus, insisting the 2020 election was stolen, encouraging Trump to run for a third term in violation of the Constitution, and blaming school shootings on “leftist transgender assailants.” She also called Michigan Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed — who was born in the U.S. — an indictment of the immigration system. We ask: will she be any better than Karoline Leavitt?
Every week we think it can’t get worse. Every week it does.
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In this midweek episode Chad, Haley and Mary Lou discuss Trump's recent comments seeming to advocate for Iran to destroy two major U.S. cities including Los Angeles where Chad lives.
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