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  • EP 14 | Uncle Nearest Fallout, Stoli Valuations, K-Pop Demons and Dad Core
    Jason Sanjana and Kevin Eckhardt open in Tennessee with Uncle Nearest Premium Whiskey's court-ordered receivership. What began as a celebrated brand story has turned into missing collateral, questionable accounting, and a Martha's Vineyard real estate controversy. Fawn Weaver faces accusations of overstating barrel inventory by $21 million, transferring assets improperly, and violating gag orders through Instagram posts. Patrick Mohan, whiskey correspondent, joins (04:12) to discuss how premium spirits brands navigate financial distress and whether Uncle Nearest can survive its founder's social media strategy. From there (21:27), the conversation shifts to Stoli's rare full-blown cram down fight against Fifth Third Bank. Once standard bankruptcy practice, dirt-for-debt scenarios have become extinct in modern Chapter 11 cases. Stoli wants to hand over Kentucky Owl bourbon inventory to satisfy secured debt, but the parties remain deadlocked on valuation after five days of confirmation hearings. The hosts debate whether Houston's debtor-friendly reputation can overcome fundamental secured creditor protections. This episode's unofficial sponsor (34:45), the Brazil-Miami Pipeline, makes its case. The tongue-in-cheek ad skewers cross-border restructuring complexity before Jason and Kevin pivot to Oi's unprecedented Chapter 15 termination request, weighing jurisdictional chaos against practical solutions. The show closes with Dad Core (36:37), where K-Pop Demon Hunters dominates Netflix streaming charts. The animated film's sincere treatment of Internet fandom culture sparks discussion about girl-dad dynamics and content that bridges generational gaps. The hosts reflect on modern parenting through pop culture that doesn't demonize social media engagement.     Hosted by Jason Sanjana & Kevin Eckhardt Guest: Patrick Mohan (Whiskey Correspondent) Produced and Edited by Tanya Hubbard A Production of The Octus Podcast Network
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  • EP 13 | Dolphins in Court, Vegas on the Edge, and the Mailman
    Jason Sanjana and Kevin Eckhardt open in Florida with the bankruptcy of the Miami Seaquarium, owned by Mexico-based The Dolphin Company. What began as a typical debt-fueled acquisition has spiraled into one of the most contentious Chapter 11 cases of the year. Former CEO Eduardo Albor is accused of obstructing the current management, withholding company records, defying court orders, and even engineering an armed standoff at corporate headquarters. The case now includes $10K daily sanctions, $3.3 million in damages claims, and a tug-of-war between U.S. bankruptcy court and Mexican civil proceedings. David Zubkis, Legal Analyst at Octus, joins (03:51) to break down the cross-border legal mess, asset sale hurdles, and the practical challenges of selling live animals under federal law. From there, the discussion shifts to Las Vegas (24:37) where the focus is on the collapse of its middle-market tourism base. With Canadian and Mexican travelers historically making up roughly 50% of international visits to Vegas, political tensions and rising costs have pushed that traffic into steep decline. Earnings from MGM Resorts and Caesars Entertainment show luxury properties like the Bellagio holding strong while mid-tier hotels struggle, and Station Casinos has pulled a $1.5 billion loan repricing amid soft demand. The hosts ask if the city is undergoing a temporary slump or if the era of affordable Vegas is gone for good. At (37:23) the episode’s unofficial sponsor takes the stage: Visit Las Vegas, the “tourism board” that insists the Strip is not empty, you are just poor. The tongue-in-cheek ad skewers airfare hikes, inflated room rates, and mortgage-sized table minimums before the conversation turns to The Sphere (38:36), the $2.3 billion, debt-heavy venue owned by Sphere Entertainment Co.. While some call it the best concert experience of their lives, others cite obstructed views, logistical headaches, and ticket prices that rival rent payments. The episode wraps with The Mailman segment (47:27), a Nextdoor saga where a new homeowner tried to stamp “Return to Sender” on a single addressed piece of junk mail marked for “Current Homeowner” instead of simply throwing it away. Their USPS carrier returned it with handwritten notes pointing out why that is not how mail works. Jason and Kevin side with the postal worker, question the legal citation the homeowner tried to use, and offer a reminder to pick your battles and be nice to the people delivering your mail. ----more---- Hosted by Jason Sanjana & Kevin Eckhardt Guest: David Zubkis (Legal Analyst, Octus) Produced and Edited by Tanya Hubbard A Production of The Octus Podcast Network
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  • EP 10 | Social Security, Chicken Sandwiches & $10B Lakers Math
    Jason Sanjana and Kevin Eckhart kick off with the three words haunting every American retirement plan: Social Security shortfall. They unpack the insolvency date, demographic headwinds, trillion-dollar investment fantasies, and why Twitter’s sovereign wealth fund bros need to chill (01:30). Then it’s a check-in on bankruptcy’s greatest hits Purdue, Stoli, Hooters, and Red Lobster and how restructuring isn’t the end, it’s just a second act in crab-stuffed limbo (20:26). Next: the definitive showdown on fried chicken economics. Wendy’s vs. Chick-fil-A vs. the nostalgic train wreck that is Burger King’s original chicken sandwich (27:45). Why brand loyalty, franchise models, and P/E meddling make your lunch a proxy battle for the U.S. consumer. Then it's legacy leverage and Lakers math (37:12): would the Buss family have made more money just buying the S&P 500 in 1979? Maybe. But would Jack Nicholson have sat courtside at your Vanguard index fund? Doubt it. Closing out with Caitlin Clark, Sophia Cunningham, and the WNBA’s surging franchise value [42:00] — plus why we might need a bodyguard segment every week. And yes, there's a fake ad for AG1. You're welcome. ----more---- Hosted by Jason Sanjana & Kevin Eckhardt Produced and edited by Tanya Hubbard A Production of The Octus Podcast Network
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  • EP 08 | Klarna Bought the Groceries, Saks Lost the Plot, TikTok Called a Recession
    This week’s economy? Klarna-fried. Retail? Collapsing in real time. Streaming? Somehow deep. Let’s go. (00:57) Buy Now, Cry Later The Klarna-core economy is here. Jason and Kevin unpack how buy-now-pay-later went from sneakers to cereal—and what that says about consumer debt, regulators, and late-stage capitalism. (07:56) Debt Securitization & Swedish Financial Trust How Klarna’s securitized burrito model mirrors the U.S. Treasury and why nobody’s ready for what happens when the music stops. (13:06) Saks Is in Trouble Octus Senior Distressed Debt Analyst Krishan Sutharshana joins to explain Saks' collapsing bond prices, vendor pullouts, and whether 3G’s debt-fueled luxury empire is headed for restructuring. (28:18) Streaming Therapy: Netflix’s Sirens Is it patriarchy in linen? Trauma-core prestige TV? Or just weirdly good? Jason and Kevin dig into gender, power, and why Kevin Bacon still has it. (38:51) TikTok Recession Indicators Frozen pizza, self-checkout scams, tipping fatigue, Klarna memes, and churches locking their doors. Honestly? The vibes are right.----more----   Hosts: Jason Sanjana & Kevin Eckhardt Guest: Krishan Sutharshana (Octus Credit Research) Produced and Edited by: Tanya Hubbard A Production of The Octus Podcast Network  
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  • EP 06 | Vegas Has an Identity Crisis and Cruise Ships Won’t Die
    Las Vegas is booming on paper but something feels off. Meanwhile, cruise demand keeps soaring, and Red Dye No. 3 has entered the chat. At (00:25), Jason and Kevin break down why the Vegas Strip feels more like a branding experiment than a destination. By (10:23), they unpack how nostalgia, real estate shifts, and declining food service are reshaping the city’s core. Then it’s all aboard: At (11:24), Jason reports back from a 10-day cruise and explores why ships that were once on bankruptcy watch are now overbooked. By (20:00), the duo dives into the bizarre culture of cruise loyalists—towel clips, door magnets, and all. At (29:09), they reveal this week’s sponsor: the controversial Red Dye No. 3. That leads into a discussion at (31:10) about food regulations, American nostalgia, and why Kraft mac & cheese doesn't exist in Sweden. Then, in Let Me Explain: LMEs at (36:23), Kent and Julian take over to explore how AI is being used (and misused) in LME analysis, what AI still gets wrong about credit agreements, and where lawyers remain indispensable. Finally, at (51:22), they turn to Star Wars because Andor might be the best metaphor we’ve got for institutional collapse.
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The Octus Download delivers bold, unfiltered conversations that break down complex financial markets while connecting them to the world we actually live in. Hosted by Jason Sanjana & Kevin Eckhardt, this bi-weekly podcast cuts through the noise with insightful analysis, expert interviews, and just the right amount of personality. Each episode explores major trends in credit markets, dives deep into corporate finance, unpacks financial chaos, and examines how these developments impact both Wall Street and Main Street. But we don’t stop at the numbers we also explore the cultural forces shaping business decisions and the occasional bizarre intersections of finance with everyday life. Whether you’re tracking market movements, curious about investment strategies, or just want smart financial conversation with some pop culture thrown in, The Octus Download delivers market intelligence that’s both valuable and entertaining. Join us every other week as we connect the dots between money, markets, and modern life one episode at a time.
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