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Are you team camping or glamping? On today’s show, we’re checking in on the outdoor recreation economy in the Western United States. KUNC’s Mountain West News Bureau reporter Rachel Cohen joins Kimberly to unpack the pressures facing the industry, from climate change to Trump administration policies. Plus, will President Trump’s new $100 foreign tourist fee hurt national parks?

Here’s everything we talked about today:

"The Mountain West’s outdoor economy continues to grow – but pace may be slowing" from KUNC
"Ski resorts gain year-round adaptability in Forest Service rule" from KUNC
"Visits to national parks dipped slightly in 2025—after a record-breaking year" from KUNC
"Forest Service plans to move D.C. headquarters to Salt Lake City" from KUNC

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The labor force participation rate in the U.S. has fallen to the lowest level it’s been since 1977 (aside from the during the height of the pandemic). One reason for the decline? President Trump’s immigration crackdown. University of Colorado Boulder economist Chloe East joins Kimberly to break down the unexpected ways restrictive immigration policies affect the labor market, and trends she’s paying attention to during this second Trump administration.

While the United States’ workforce is aging out of its prime, some countries, like Vietnam, are just hitting their stride. On today’s show, Kai joins Kimberly to share his takeaways from reporting in Ho Chi Minh City for the “Marketplace” series “The Age of Work.” We’ll get into how Vietnam’s younger workforce is transforming the country’s economy for the future and the pressures it faces from all around the globe.

Recently, Seattle’s tech workforce has been hit by wave after wave of layoffs. Some company execs say it’s AI’s fault. KUOW’s Monica Nickelsburg joins Kimberly on today’s show to share what she’s hearing from tech workers. And, we’ll get into another side of the AI boom: the push to build more data centers and the pushback from locals. Plus, a round of Seattle trivia!

Here’s everything we talked about today:

"Booming" from KUOW
Why Seattle tech companies are still laying off workers from The Seattle Times
"From coder to shuttle driver: Where Seattle's laid off tech workforce is now" from KUOW
"A small town in Central Washington is Microsoft's answer to the data center backlash" from KUOW
"What produce prompted the creation of the Market?" from the Pike Place Market Foundation
"Seattle doesn't have many unicorns. Does it matter?" From GeekWire
"Scents from a Mall: The Sticky, Untold Story of Cinnabon" from Seattle Met
"Seattle area expected to generate $845 million from FIFA World Cup" from Fox 13 Seattle

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Will AI take my job? On today’s show, Anthropic’s head of economics Peter McCrory sits down with Kimberly to answer our burning questions about artificial intelligence’s effects on the labor market. We’ll get into what Anthropic’s research shows about how people are using the company’s chatbot Claude and what that could mean for the future of the global economy.

Here’s everything we talked about today:

"Snap's stock jumps on plans to axe 16% of its workforce citing AI efficiencies" from CNBC
"Anthropic Economic Index report: Learning curves" from Anthropic
"Labor market impacts of AI: A new measure and early evidence" from Anthropic
"Anthropic Economic Index report: Uneven geographic and enterprise AI adoption" from Anthropic
"Behind the Curtain: A white-collar bloodbath" from Axios
"Estimating AI productivity gains from Claude conversations" from Anthropic
"What 81,000 people want from AI" from Anthropic

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