Get Obsessed : With Living Your Best Life

On the Get Obsessed podcast, host Mika Altidor interviews Stefano Siciliano, an American lifelong personal growth and spiritual path practitioner who began having spontaneous out-of-body experiences (OBEs) around age seven or eight and later learned to induce them. Inspired by Robert Monroe’s books, Stefano trained at the Monroe Institute, became a trainer in Europe, helped bring the technology to Eastern Bloc countries after the Soviet Republic collapsed, and now supports and endorses Darius J. Wright’s work. Stefano explains OBEs as normal and connected to sleep, dreams, and lucid dreaming, describing “mind awake, body asleep” as akin to deep meditation. He says conscious OBEs can transform one’s view of identity, reality, death, and loss, and frames adversity as a catalyst that can push people toward availability for “what more is possible,” recommending Wright’s online resources for further exploration.

00:00 Welcome and Intro

00:51 Stefano Background

01:31 Childhood OBEs

03:06 Monroe Institute Journey

03:54 Life Changes and Growth

04:57 Demystifying OBEs

05:53 Dreams Lucid and OBE

07:47 Mind Awake Body Asleep

09:13 Why It Matters

10:12 Seeing Your Body

12:13 Adversity as Teacher

15:15 Purpose in Suffering

20:20 Distortion and Chaos

23:29 Escapism and Cookoff

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In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Anne Gollert Hill continues her extraordinary story of life inside Scientology, sharing what it was like to work within the Sea Org and witness the organization's culture from the inside. 

A writer, survivor, and creator of My Scientology Story, Anne offers a rare firsthand perspective on leadership, loyalty, fear, and life at the highest levels of Scientology. 

In conversation with Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor, Anne discusses the realities behind Scientology's public image, from the influence of celebrity members and the leadership of David Miscavige to the personal relationships and policies that shaped daily life inside the organization. She also reflects on the emotional challenges of leaving and the lessons she has learned through her ongoing journey toward freedom and healing.

In this episode, we discuss:

01:59 - Why Scientology actively recruits celebrities and Anne's experience interviewing John Travolta

06:11 - Tom Cruise's relationship with David Miscavige and his unique status within Scientology

09:16 - Leah Remini, Mike Rinder, and the importance of exposing Scientology's abuses

11:29 - The absence of love in Scientology, the Bridge to Spiritual Freedom, and the financial cost of advancement

15:41 - The warning signs that led Anne to question Scientology and begin planning her escape

20:30 - How Anne's family's consistent love and support became the key to leaving the Sea Org

28:39 - Why leaving Scientology felt impossible and how Anne rebuilt her life afterward

 

ABOUT THE GUEST:

Anne Gollert Hill is a Canadian writer, survivor, and creator of the blog My Scientology Story, where she shares her experiences inside Scientology and her journey toward freedom. After joining Scientology in 1988 during a difficult chapter in her life, she became deeply involved in the organization and was eventually recruited into the Sea Org's international communications division, serving at some of Scientology's highest-level facilities, including Gold Base. 

After nearly two decades inside the organization, Anne left Scientology on August 3, 2007, walking out of the Flag Land Base in Clearwater, Florida, with only the clothes on her back. Today, she speaks openly about coercive influence, recovery, personal freedom, and the lasting impact of life inside a high-control organization. Through her writing and advocacy, she helps others better understand the realities of indoctrination, escape, and rebuilding life after leaving Scientology.

 

MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE:

(Video) Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath (Netflix) - https://www.netflix.com/title/81229101 

CONNECT WITH ANNE GOLLERT HILL:

Website: My Scientology Story: http://agollerthill.wordpress.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/annehillwriter/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/agollerthill 

Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@annegollerthill 

 
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Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com

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Reach Out To Us! hello@getobsessedmedia.com 

The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future.

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LEGAL DISCLAIMER: 

The views, personal accounts, and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the guest, Anne Gollert Hill, based on her own lived experiences and recollections. This podcast makes no independent factual claims regarding the Church of Scientology or any of its members, leaders, or affiliated individuals. All statements reflect the guest's personal perspective and memory and should not be construed as established legal fact. The Church of Scientology denies many of the claims made by former members. Neither this podcast, its hosts, its production team, nor its parent company endorses, verifies, or assumes legal responsibility for the guest's account. This episode is produced for informational and entertainment purposes only. Listeners are encouraged to seek out multiple sources when forming their own conclusions. Nothing in this episode constitutes legal advice.

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In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, hosts Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor speak with Anne Gollert Hill about Scientology, her years in the Sea Org, and her eventual escape from Scientology after nearly two decades inside the organization. 

Anne is a Canadian writer, survivor, and creator of the blog My Scientology Story, where she shares her experiences inside one of Scientology's highest-ranking divisions and her journey toward rebuilding her life after leaving.

Anne shares how a search for purpose led her into Scientology and eventually into the Sea Org, where she signed the Billion-year contract and spent years inside the organization's inner ranks. She discusses life under David Miscavige, the influence of celebrity Scientologists, including Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Kirstie Alley, and Leah Remini, and her journey toward freedom after leaving.

In this episode, we discuss:

Anne’s background and how she became involved with Scientology

How Scientology recruited her through emotional vulnerability

What Scientology is and how it presents itself publicly

The path to joining the Sea Organization and signing the billion-year contract

Recruitment to international management and life inside Scientology leadership

David Miscavige’s leadership and the atmosphere of fear inside the Sea Org

Community inside the Sea Org and the policy prohibiting children

 
ABOUT THE GUEST:

Anne Gollert Hill is a Canadian writer, survivor, and creator of the blog My Scientology Story, where she shares her experiences inside Scientology and her journey toward freedom. After joining Scientology in 1988 during a difficult chapter in her life, she became deeply involved in the organization and was eventually recruited into the Sea Org's international communications division, serving at some of Scientology's highest-level facilities, including Gold Base.

After nearly two decades inside the organization, Anne left Scientology on August 3, 2007, walking out of the Flag Land Base in Clearwater, Florida, with only the clothes on her back. Today, she speaks openly about coercive influence, recovery, personal freedom, and the lasting impact of life inside a high-control organization. Through her writing and advocacy, she helps others better understand the realities of indoctrination, escape, and rebuilding life after leaving Scientology.

 

MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE:

(Book) Troublemaker by Leah Remini - https://www.amazon.com/Troublemaker-Surviving-Scientology-Leah-Remini/dp/1101886986

(Video) Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath (Netflix) - https://www.netflix.com/title/81229101

(Reference) BITE Model of Authoritarian Control - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model-pdf-download/

CONNECT WITH ANNE GOLLERT HILL:

Website: My Scientology Story: http://agollerthill.wordpress.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/annehillwriter/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/agollerthill 

Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@annegollerthill 

 
ABOUT GET OBSESSED

Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com

Be a Guest! http://www.getobsessedguest.com 

Reach Out To Us! hello@getobsessedmedia.com 

The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future.

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LEGAL DISCLAIMER: 

The views, personal accounts, and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the guest, Anne Gollert Hill, based on her own lived experiences and recollections. This podcast makes no independent factual claims regarding the Church of Scientology or any of its members, leaders, or affiliated individuals. All statements reflect the guest's personal perspective and memory and should not be construed as established legal fact. The Church of Scientology denies many of the claims made by former members. Neither this podcast, its hosts, its production team, nor its parent company endorses, verifies, or assumes legal responsibility for the guest's account. This episode is produced for informational and entertainment purposes only. Listeners are encouraged to seek out multiple sources when forming their own conclusions. Nothing in this episode constitutes legal advice.

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If you haven't listened to last week's sit-down with former NFL star Marcus Ogden yet — go do that first. This week, Julie and Mika return to unpack every layer of his extraordinary rise, fall, and second act. Marcus went from being a dominant NFL player and minority contractor holding Baltimore's top government contract — to making $8.15 an hour cleaning restrooms. This is what rock bottom really looks like, and more importantly, what the climb back up teaches us all.

Jules and Mika explore how Marcus was able to share his story without emotional charge — speaking from wisdom rather than wound — and why that signals a man truly living his mission. They dig into the parallels between addiction to substances and addiction to status, success, and dopamine, asking the question: is ego just another drug?

"To have an ego that big, it had to be brought down. His rock bottom was a way of showing the height of where he was — and for him to come back from that, it's almost like he is called to share this." — Mika Altidor

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

Ego is a dopamine loop. Marcus replaced drug and alcohol addiction with the high of being "number one" — the most successful minority contractor in Baltimore. Success without humility can be its own trap.

Comeback stories are rare — and that's why they matter. Jules and Mika reflect on how few people actually return from that depth of loss. Marcus's story is a Cinderella story because the odds were against him, and he made it anyway.

Rock bottom can be a reset, not an ending. For Marcus, cleaning toilets wasn't the end of his story — it was the stripping away of everything fake so the real self could rebuild.

Shared vulnerability is mission work. When you've been through something extraordinary, telling the truth about it stops being personal — it becomes a calling. Marcus embodies that shift.

Check your ego before the universe does. Mika shares her own moment of realizing praise was inflating her sense of self. The universe has a way of recalibrating — best to do it yourself first.

ABOUT THE HOSTS:

Julie Lokun (https://julielokun.com) is a life coach, author, and the visionary behind the Get Obsessed Podcast — a show dedicated to stories that unlock human potential. Mika Altidor (https://mikaaltidor.com) is an entrepreneur, speaker, and owner of the Vegan Monarch Café in Winter Haven, FL. Together, they bring warmth, wit, and unapologetically real conversation to every episode.

CONNECT & LISTEN:

Listen & Subscribe: https://getobsessedpodcast.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/getobsessedpodcast Julie Lokun: https://julielokunconsulting.com Mika Altidor: https://victormikabakery.com

KEYWORDS & TAGS: Marcus Ogden NFL, riches to rags story, NFL player addiction recovery, ego and success, entrepreneurship mindset, rock bottom comeback story, overcoming addiction podcast, minority entrepreneur Baltimore, personal reinvention, dopamine and ambition, human spirit resilience, motivational podcast for women, Get Obsessed Podcast, Julie Lokun, Mika Altidor

RECAP:

This episode of the Get Obsessed Podcast, hosted by Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor, features a debrief on former NFL player Marcus Ogden — exploring themes of addiction recovery, ego-driven failure, entrepreneurial reinvention, and the psychology of comeback stories. Marcus Ogden rose from an NFL career to building Baltimore's top minority-owned government construction contract, lost everything including his sobriety, and rebuilt from working as a janitor at $8.15 an hour. This episode is relevant for searches on: NFL player comeback, addiction and success, ego as addiction, riches to rags, minority entrepreneurship, motivational podcast, and personal reinvention stories.

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In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Marques Ogden talks with hosts Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor about how ego shaped his life after the NFL and what it ultimately cost him.

A former NFL player who went on to build a multi-million dollar construction company, Marques shares how his rapid success in business, more than football, fueled a sense of invincibility that led to losing everything.

He speaks candidly about bankruptcy, hitting rock bottom while working as a janitor for $8 an hour, and the moment he had to take full responsibility for where he ended up. Through that experience, he gained a deeper understanding of relationships versus money and why real connection matters more than status or success. Today, Marques uses those lessons to guide others, grounded in humility, accountability, and a commitment to never return to the person he once was.

In this episode, we discuss:

The hidden cost of success and the pressure behind life after the NFL

Owning the fall when ego takes control

From NFL player to entrepreneur and unexpected success

Struggles with relationships vs money and identity outside the game

How ego grew outside football and led to bankruptcy

Losing friendships and discovering who truly stays at rock bottom

Rebuilding with humility, credibility, and real connections

 
ABOUT THE GUEST

Marques Ogden is a keynote speaker, five-time bestselling author, and former NFL offensive lineman who now speaks to organizations on leadership, resilience, and overcoming failure. After playing five seasons in the NFL, he built a multi-million dollar construction company that eventually collapsed, leading him to file for bankruptcy and hit rock bottom.

That experience became a defining turning point, forcing him to confront his ego and rebuild his life from the ground up with humility and accountability. Today, Marques uses those lessons to teach individuals and teams how to execute through adversity and develop a resilient mindset.

He is also the host of the globally ranked podcast Get Authentic with Marques Ogden, reaching over 750,000 people monthly through his message of growth, ownership, and transformation.

CONNECT WITH MARQUES OGDEN:

Website: https://bookmarquesogden.com/

Get Authentic with Marques Ogden - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/get-authentic-with-marques-ogden/id1633323257

The Success Cycle by Marques Ogden - https://www.amazon.com/Success-Cycle-Achieving-Goals-Business/dp/1642931748

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarquesOgdenSpeaker/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marquesogden/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marquesogden/

X (Twitter): https://twitter.com/Marques_Ogden

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbROb_i2Ef3mr6OFoBOFjuQ

 
ABOUT GET OBSESSED

Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com

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The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future.

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