CMO Confidential

A CMO Confidential Interview with Joe Gagliese, Co-Founder and CEO at Viral Nation, a full-service digital and social agency.

Joe discusses the concept of social as "the people's media," details why he believes "discovery begins with social" and outlines how brands might think about becoming "social centered."

Key topics include:
Why social has become a prerequisite for certain categories
Questions to ask your social agency
Why measurement is still a bit of an Achilles heel
How to think of social as a living organism which works in concert with the rest of your marketing

Tune in to hear why social is so important for autos and thoughts on reading Marcus Aurelius.

⏱️ Chapters
01:12 - Introduction to CMO Confidential
01:42 - Introducing Joe Gagliese
02:46 - Defining "Social First"
05:40 - Social Strategy as a Behavioral System
08:03 - The Prerequisite of Radical Transparency
12:11 - Transitioning to a Social-First Organization
15:03 - Maintaining Authenticity with Creators
17:33 - Steps to Develop a Social-First Strategy
20:20 - Determining Brand Readiness
22:01 - Measuring Social Performance and Conversion
25:18 - Five Questions to Ask Social Agencies
28:28 - Common Mistakes in Social Marketing
30:10 - Practical Advice and Closing Remarks

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A CMO Confidential Interview with Mike Kaput, the Chief Content Officer at SmarterX and Marketing AI Institute and co-host of "The Artificial Intelligence Show."
Mike shares research across 2000 companies regarding AI adoption and highlights the gap between what companies say they are doing and what is happening, the fact that only 25% of companies have achieved "scaling" status, and how larger companies can be slowed by complexity.

Key topics include:
- Why training and education represent the biggest obstacle to progress
- Why you should measure "tool usage"
- Why job clarity is important for agents.

Tune in to hear about rising AI pessimism and building yourself a "second brain."

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⏱️ Chapters
01:12 – Intro: Meet Mike Kaput & AI topic overview
02:37 – State of AI report: how the data was gathered
05:53 – Key insight: people vs organizations gap
06:43 – What scaling AI actually looks like
08:06 – Pilot phase reality across companies
10:11 – AI hype vs real adoption
13:02 – The “say vs do” gap in execution
14:15 – AI literacy is the #1 barrier
16:13 – How to assess AI maturity (individual & company)
20:06 – Biggest mistake: tools without training
23:20 – AI agents, risks, and what’s next

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This week on CMO Confidential, we're revisiting our conversation with Tom Goodwin from August of 2025 - this is one of our favorites with topics just as relevant to marketers today.

Tom discusses his belief that today's CMO's are overly focused on efficiency versus marketing principles and that the contemporary playbook has been created by tech companies focused on performance metrics.

Key topics include:
-An unhealthy focus on the speed of measurement and short-term results
-Marketers having a "feeling of vulnerability" if they haven't heard of new tech
-The fact that many of the hyped direct-to-consumer brands like Casper and Ridge Wallets aren't actually doing that well

Tune in to hear the underestimated impact of "beauty" and a story about being locked out of a self-driving car.

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⏱️ Chapters
00:00 – Intro: Meet Tom Goodwin
02:28 – Would 1950s Marketers Beat Today’s CMOs?
05:41 – Is Marketing Actually More Complex Today?
09:15 – Fundamentals vs Growth Hacking & Performance Tactics
11:05 – DTC vs Traditional Brands: What Actually Works
15:13 – Short-Term Metrics, AI Hype & Tech Overload
28:36 – Dark Social, Hidden Influence & What Data Misses
34:21 – Predictions, AI Reality & The Power of Simplicity

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A CMO Confidential Interview with Kim Whitler, professor at the University of Virginia Darden School of Business, board member and former GM and CMO.

Kim shares recent research which details why the largest and best companies often get dragged into conflicts they can't win, the three main forces of pressure and how they affect different management levels, and tips on picking the right company for you.

Key discussion topics include:
- The only stance agreed on by 100% of consumers
- How to think about non-divisive activism (e.g. Dove's Real Beauty Campaign)
- The danger of in-group bias

Tune in to hear why "You don't have to get engaged," and tips for getting an unbiased view.

⏱️ Chapters

01:12 Introducing Kim Whitler
01:39 Why Corporate Activism Creates Business Risk
02:51 Inside the “Executive Flip-Flop” Study
04:11 Mapping the 3 Sources of Pressure on Leaders
06:01 Internal vs External Pressure Dynamics
11:19 The “Pressure Meter” Framework Explained
12:33 Key Insight: Pressure Varies by Level (C-Suite vs Managers)
14:18 The Myth of “You Must Take a Stand”
17:09 Flawed Research Driving Activism Decisions
21:19 When Brand Activism Works vs Backfires
27:04 Choosing the Right Company as a Marketer
31:06 AI Bias, Media Influence & Finding Truth
38:11 Practical Advice: Avoiding In-Group Bias in Leadership
43:25 Final Takeaways for Marketers

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A CMO Confidential Interview with Jean English, CMO of CoreWeave, formerly the CMO of Juniper Networks, Armis, Palo Alto Networks and NetApp.

Jean discusses the dynamics driving the voracious demand for computing power, why cloud infrastructure matters so much, and the ongoing AI shift from training to inference.

Key topics include:
- How models are leapfrogging each other at speed
- The importance of B2B brands at a time when decisions are often made by teams of people
- Why marketing is a great use case for AI
- Creative uses for hackathons

Tune in to hear why "80% right" is okay and a story about using AI for parenting advice.

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⏱️ Chapters
01:31 Guest Intro: Jean English (CMO, CoreWeave)
02:39 What CoreWeave Does (AI Cloud Explained)
04:20 AI Hype vs Reality
07:05 The AI Market & Competitive Landscape
09:40 Building an AI Brand
11:00 Buying Groups & Enterprise Complexity
13:01 Measuring AI Infrastructure Performance
15:32 Why Brand Matters in AI
18:11 IPO, Growth & Market Expansion
20:34 AI’s Impact on Marketing Teams
24:32 Infrastructure, Scale & Future Demand
28:26 Final Advice for Marketers + Closing

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