The Pomp Podcast

Grant Cardone is a real estate investor and founder of Cardone Capital. This conversation was recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation, Grant explains how he pairs cash-flowing real estate with bitcoin, why he stacks bitcoin on top of discounted properties, and how that approach attracted traditional real estate investors to bitcoin. We also discuss his views on cash flow, long-term conviction, avoiding stocks and gold, and why combining legacy assets with new monetary technology creates a powerful investment framework.
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0:00 - Intro
0:17 - Grant’s portfolio, cash flow, & scale
3:41 - Why he started combining real estate with bitcoin
13:58 - The REIT “glitch” — why institutions can’t hold bitcoin
17:00 - What bitcoiners get wrong when talking to investors
20:53 - Why he avoids stocks & paper assets

Mike Novogratz is a veteran macro investor and the founder & CEO of Galaxy. This conversation was recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation, Mike shares why investing has become far more complex, how the dollar’s role as a global reserve currency may be shifting, and what that means for bitcoin, gold, and global markets. We also cover bitcoin’s recent pullback, regulation and ETFs, and why AI, energy, and tokenization could define the next market cycle.
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0:00 - Intro
0:24 - Why the investing game just got harder
5:40 - Is the U.S. losing reserve currency status?
8:37 - AI, productivity, & why inflation may stay low
11:25 - Is Bitcoin actually “not working”?
13:24 - Regulation, Wall Street, & Bitcoin’s next narrative
20:59 - AI, power, & the future of Galaxy
26:16 - Mike’s fantasy football league

Lyn Alden is a macro strategist and one of the most respected independent voices in global markets. This conversation was recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this discussion, Lyn explains why deflationary forces may outweigh inflation risks, how AI-driven productivity is reshaping the economy, and why traditional macro signals are breaking down. We also explore energy’s role in controlling inflation, the divergence between gold and bitcoin, and what it all means for long-term investors.
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0:00 - Intro
0:23 - Inflation vs deflation: what macro regime are we in?
2:28 – Money printing, productivity, & hidden deflation
5:17 – Gold vs Bitcoin: why gold is outperforming
7:59 – Why retail hasn’t bought bitcoin this cycle
12:05 – Bitcoin vs stablecoins and capital flows
14:34 – AI, jobs, & deflationary pressure
17:12 – Will deflation force more money printing?
19:08 – High growth without inflation: is it possible?

Cathie Wood is the Founder, CEO, and CIO of ARK Invest and one of the most influential voices in innovation investing. This conversation was recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York.  In this discussion, Cathie explains why deflation—not inflation—is the bigger macro risk, how AI is becoming a powerful deflationary force, and why productivity gains are being misunderstood by markets and policymakers. We also explore bitcoin’s role as a hedge against both inflation and deflation, the rise of counterparty risk, and how converging technologies like AI, robotics, and blockchain are reshaping the global economy.
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0:00 - Intro
0:20 - Why deflation is the real macro risk
3:32 - Navigating the AI boom & U.S. growth
12:22 - Would deflation hurt bitcoin?
14:08 - Elon Musk, Tesla, & convergence
16:37 - Key risks investors should watch
18:45 - How ARK approaches innovation investing

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. This conversation was recorded at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this episode, we break down why software stocks are losing their moats, how AI is driving deflation, and why capital is rotating toward scarce assets. We explore hyperscalers, data centers, AI agents, and why bitcoin may emerge as the only true growth asset in a world of abundant intelligence.
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0:00 - Intro
0:56 – Cathie Wood’s AI take & why Jordi disagrees
4:30 – Why Big Tech may struggle to monetize AI
6:57 – Deflation vs disinflation in an AI-driven economy
10:08 – What investors should actually do right now
14:12 – The scarcity trade & why bitcoin stands out
16:25 – How investors can use AI to gain an edge
19:16 – Where to follow Jordi Visser & his work