Being Human with Steve Cuss

In this special travelogue episode of Being Human, host Steve Cuss records from Tinos, Greece, where he discovered a profound Orthodox Christian pilgrimage tradition. Pilgrims crawl a half-mile uphill to a famous church, seeking healing. Steve reflects on desperation, hope, and faith across traditions, he draws on MLK's words: "If you can't walk, crawl—but keep moving forward." He invites listeners to consider their own pace and bring their whole selves to God.

Episode Resources:

Learn about Christian Missionary Fellowship International

Read about the church of Our Lady of Tinos, Greece

History of Our Lady of Tinos (Panagia Evangelistria)

More about Fred Craddock

Scripture Referenced:

Revelation 21:5 (ESV)

2 Corinthians 5:17 (ESV)

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Capable Life Newsletter

Get the Assets & Liabilities pdf and the Life Giving List

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Capable Life Intensives

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Hosts Steve and Lisa Cuss address listener questions about navigating judgmental believers, generational anger, and caregiving burnout. They encourage listeners to define their own positions without trying to change others, explore emotions beneath anger, and build connections through small, consistent moments. Steve and Lisa also revisit recent guests Matt Smallbone and Jenny Brown to offer insights on relating to strong personalities, praying the Lord's Prayer intentionally, and recognizing unhealthy family patterns.

Episode Resources:

Matt Smallbone’s The Prayer Experiment: How Praying Like Jesus Realigns Everything - Our Thoughts, Our Hearts, and Our Posture Toward God and the World

Jenny Brown’s The Parenting Paradox: Loving Our Children by Giving Them Space to Grow

Explore the Enneagram

Brad Gray & Brad Nelson’s Bringing Heaven Here: How The Lord's Prayer Can Change Your Life and Our World

Brad Gray: The Lord's Prayer (documentary)

What is the Anger Iceberg

Scripture Referenced:

The Lord’s Prayer: Matthew 6:9–13 (ESV)

Read Matthew 7:3–5 ESV

More From Matt Smallbone:

Matt Smallbone’s website

Church of the City Downtown teaching podcast

More From Jenny Brown:

Jenny Brown’s Website

Jenny Brown’s Author Page

Jenny Brown’s Growing Yourself Up: How to bring your best to all of life's relationships

Parent Hope Project

Parent Hope Podcast

Family Systems Institute

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Host Steve Cuss speaks with theologian Dr. Andrew Ollerton about his book God's Book: An Honest Look at the Bible's Seven Toughest Topics. They discuss the importance of honestly engaging with difficult biblical passages rather than avoiding them, and how wrestling with tough questions can deepen faith. Andrew shares his own intellectual and emotional struggles, including reconciling science with Genesis and coping with loss. They also explore the role of community, spiritual practices, and humility in staying connected to God.

Episode Resources:

Andrew Ollerson’s God’s Book: An Honest Look at the Bible’s 7 Toughest Topics

More about Bear Grylls

Scripture Referenced:

Genesis 3 (ESV)

Matthew 1:1–17 (ESV)

Genesis 1–2 (ESV)

Joshua 6 (ESV)

The Book of Job (ESV)

Genesis 28:10–22 (ESV)

2 Kings 6:8–23 (ESV)

Luke 24:13–35 (ESV)

Numbers 22:21–35 (ESV)

Numbers 13–14 (ESV)

Joshua 14:6–15 (ESV)

More From Dr. Andrew Ollerton:

Andrew Ollerton’s website

Learn more about Andrew Ollerton

Andrew’s eight-session course: The Bible Course

Andrew’s The Family Bible Course

Sign up for Steve’s Newsletter & Podcast Reminders

Capable Life Newsletter

Get the Assets & Liabilities pdf and the Life Giving List

Join Steve at an Upcoming Intensive

Capable Life Intensives

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Host Steve Cus welcomes Lee C. Camp—professor, podcaster, and author—for a rich conversation about anxiety, systems theory, and human flourishing. Lee shares his personal journey with anxiety and depression, and how discovering differentiation through therapy transformed his relationships and emotional health. They explore legalism within the Churches of Christ tradition and its lasting emotional impact. The discussion also touches on societal reactivity, the purpose behind Lee's podcast No Small Endeavor, and the importance of creating hospitable spaces for honest dialogue. Lee closes with reflections on gliding, music, and simple morning rituals as grounding practices.

Episode Resources:

Malcolm Gladwell’s The Alabama Murders: Part 1: The True Church

Steve Cuss’ Managing Leadership Anxiety

David Schnarch’s Passionate Marriage

David McCullough’s The Wright Brothers

Books by Parker J. Palmer

Books by Thomas Merton

Murray Bowen’s family systems theory

More about Differentiation of self

Scripture Referenced:

Mark 12:30–31 (ESV)

More From Lee C. Camp:

Lee C. Camp’s Scandalous Witness: A Little Political Manifesto for Christians

Books by Lee C. Camp

Listen to No Small Endeavor and The Subtext

Sign up for Lee C. Camp’s newsletter

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Host Steve and Clarissa Moll explore how invisible dynamics like reactivity and anxiety affect leadership, relationships, and our connection with God. Steve shares six tools for diffusing reactivity—vulnerability, laughter, curiosity, clarity, love, and redirecting anxiety—while emphasizing playfulness as an underutilized organizational resource. They discuss how collective laughter and singing reset the nervous system, and how God's playful nature, reflected in creation, makes these habits spiritually meaningful.

Episode Resources:


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More about The Chosen


More about Ladysmith Black Mambazo 

More From Clarissa Moll:


Explore Clarissa Moll’s website


Read Clarissa Moll’s substack

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