Ever Forward Radio with Chase Chewning

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You've probably heard of the trauma responses fight, flight, and freeze — but there's a fourth response that may be shaping your life without you even realizing it: fawning.
In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Ingrid Clayton, PhD a clinical psychologist, trauma therapist, and author of Fawning, to understand why people-pleasing, over-accommodating, and self-abandonment are not personality flaws — they're intelligent survival responses your nervous system learned to keep you safe.
You'll learn how fawning develops when fight, flight, or freeze aren't available — especially in childhood, unequal power dynamics, toxic relationships, and work environments where your safety or stability feels at risk. You'll also discover how living in a chronic fawn response can quietly disconnect you from your needs, your voice, your body, and your sense of self.
This conversation helps you recognize why "just setting boundaries" often feels impossible, why you may disappear in relationships, and why choosing yourself can feel terrifying even when you know something needs to change. Most importantly, you'll hear why none of this means something is wrong with you — you make sense.
If you've been stuck in survival mode, waiting for permission, approval, or safety outside yourself, this episode will help you understand what's been happening beneath the surface — and how you can begin moving forward by reconnecting with who you truly are.
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00:00 – Introducing the "Fourth F": What Is Fawning?
02:16 – Why Fawning Is Not a Conscious Choice
03:40 – Power, Safety, and Why Fight or Flight Aren't Always Options
07:43 – Living in Chronic Survival Mode
09:27 – When Fawning Becomes Your "Personality"
12:09 – Empaths, Hypervigilance, and Nervous System Trauma
13:40 – Apologizing to People Who Hurt You
16:22 – Befriending Bullies as De-Escalation
20:29 – Gender, Power, and Why Context Matters
24:03 – Ignoring a Partner's Bad Behavior
26:43 – Toxic Hope vs Reality
28:27 – Presence as a Path Out of Fawning
31:24 – Reality as a Regulating Force
35:02 – Fawning in the Workplace & Overgiving
37:26 – Choosing Yourself for the First Time
40:29 – Becoming Who You Already Are
43:56 – Why "Just Set Boundaries" Fails Trauma Survivors
48:02 – Listening to Yourself as the Path Forward
51:12 – Writing Fawning & Seeing the Bigger System
55:06 – Somatic Tools to Regulate the Nervous System
01:02:27 – Health Costs of Chronic Fawning
01:04:03 – Self-Abandonment Explained
01:06:19 – What "Ever Forward" Means Through Trauma Healing
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What if the foods you believe are "healthy" are quietly driving chronic inflammation, hormonal disruption, and behavioral issues in children? Julia Putzeys is here to expose the truth about ultra-processed foods, misleading food labels, artificial dyes, seed oils, and chemical additives hiding in plain sight. Julia breaks down why front-of-package marketing is designed to mislead consumers, how certain ingredients are still legal in the U.S. but banned abroad, and why simply "hitting your macros" is not the same as eating real, nourishing food.
We explain how food additives impact children's brain health, gut health, metabolism, and long-term disease risk — and how parents and everyday shoppers can take back control at the grocery store. This conversation will empower you with practical tools to read ingredient labels properly, make smarter food swaps, and protect your family's health without falling into fear or overwhelm.
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00:00 – The Biggest Lie the Food Industry Tells
01:15 – Why "High-Protein" Processed Foods Are Still Dangerous
03:41 – Seed Oils & Chronic Inflammation Explained
05:35 – Why Food Labels Are Designed to Confuse You
08:10 – Are Brands Intentionally Misleading Consumers?
10:45 – Why Front-of-Package Claims Mean Nothing
12:49 – Ultra-Processed Foods vs Real Food
16:02 – Ingredient Order & Label Red Flags
18:07 – Why Modern Bread Is So Dangerous
19:41 – Artificial Dyes & Kids' Brain Health
23:36 – The Top 5 Most Dangerous Food Ingredients
27:54 – High-Fructose Corn Syrup & Hidden Sugars
31:32 – Artificial Sweeteners & Gut Damage
33:56 – Why Europe Bans Ingredients the U.S. Allows
37:48 – Ultra-Processed Foods & Chronic Disease
42:23 – How Parents Can Protect Their Children
56:10 – Why Calories ≠ Health
57:53 – What Is the Trash Panda App?
01:02:12 – How Trash Panda Rates Ingredients
01:08:20 – Consumer Power vs Big Food
01:10:10 – Ever Forward
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In this powerful conversation, Dr. Will Bulsiewicz, MD joins Ever Forward Radio to explore why true healing goes far beyond food, supplements, and exercise—and into the nervous system, emotional health, and human connection. Drawing from his new book Plant Powered Plus, Will explains how inflammation is driven by an inseparable triad of gut microbiome imbalance, immune dysfunction, and a compromised gut barrier, while also revealing how chronic stress, unresolved trauma, loneliness, and circadian disruption can prevent the body from ever feeling safe enough to heal. This episode clearly explains the gut–brain–immune axis, the role of parasympathetic "safety" states, why PTSD and trauma leave measurable signatures in the gut, and how practices like sunlight exposure, breathwork, meaningful relationships, and spiritual purpose are not "woo"—but biology. 
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00:00 – Introduction: Why You're Not Healing (It's Not Just Food)
01:30 – Inflammation, Strength & the Core Thesis of Plant Powered Plus
02:25 – 70% of the Immune System Lives in the Gut
03:40 – The Inflammation Trifecta: Dysbiosis, Gut Barrier & Immunity
05:10 – How Fast the Gut Microbiome and Gut Lining Can Heal
06:00 – 450,000 New Gut Cells Every Second
09:00 – Why the Body Wants to Heal (If We Let It)
10:00 – Morning Sunlight, Circadian Rhythm & Energy
11:30 – Gut Microbes Follow a 24-Hour Schedule
12:45 – Why the Immune System Is Active at Night
14:00 – Serotonin, Melatonin & Gut Repair
16:00 – Cortisol: When Stress Helps vs. Harms
18:30 – The Sympathetic Nervous System & "Berserker Mode
21:45 – How Chronic Stress Damages the Gut Barrier
24:00 – Trauma, PTSD & Inflammatory Disease
26:00 – Why You Can't Out-Diet Trauma
29:00 – Science, Pattern Recognition & the Mind–Body Connection
32:00 – Parasympathetic Healing: Safety, Rest & Digestion
34:00 – Breathwork, Meditation & Nervous System Regulation
36:00 – Human Connection as Medicine
38:30 – Loneliness, Mortality & Modern Society
43:00 – Why Meaningful Relationships Are Essential for Health
46:00 – Can You Be Healthy Without Deep Connection?
49:00 – Measuring Stress: HRV, Wearables & Inflammation
55:30 – Trauma, PTSD & the Gut Microbiome
58:00 – Healing Trauma and Healing the Gut Together
1:03:30 – Dr. Bulsiewicz's Personal Healing Story
1:09:30 – Reconciliation, Grief & Spiritual Healing
1:18:00 – Purpose, Faith & the Limits of Science
1:22:00 – Ever Forward
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Today we sit down with interior designer, TV host, and wellness advocate Sabrina Soto to explore how our homes profoundly shape our mental health, nervous system, relationships, and sense of identity. Sabrina shares her deeply personal journey—from growing up in chaos and creating a safe haven as a teenager, to landing her first HGTV role through a Craigslist ad—and explains why design isn't about trends or perfection, but alignment. This episode explores the emotional weight of clutter, how environment influences cortisol and stress, why small changes can create massive life shifts, and how designing your space is ultimately about designing the life you want to live—one intentional step forward at a time.
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00:00 – Why Your Home Might Be Keeping You Stuck
01:21 – Sabrina's Daily Wellness & Non-Negotiables
04:36 – How Home Design Directly Impacts Mental Health
05:21 – Childhood Trauma, Chaos & Creating a Safe Haven
06:15 – Why People Dread Coming Home (and How to Fix It)
09:12 – Creating "Vignettes" That Support Your Best Life
11:00 – Why Sabrina Rejects Design Rules & Trends
12:13 – How Life Phases Shape Your Design Style
13:01 – Music, Culture & Identity in Home Design
14:14 – Using AI Wisely (Without Losing Your Intuition)
15:09 – The Craigslist Ad That Changed Everything
18:25 – Acting "As If" Before the Opportunity Arrives
21:01 – Why You're One Phone Call Away From Changing Your Life
24:30 – Cuban Culture, Perfectionism & Letting Go
28:39 – How Sabrina Scans a Room in the First 60 Seconds
30:16 – The 5-Minute Declutter That Lowers Stress
32:22 – How to Refresh a Room With $500
35:16 – 3 Cheat Codes for Instant Room Elevation
36:20 – Where People Waste the Most Money in Design
39:49 – Timeless Design vs. Trends You'll Regret
42:25 – Should Your Whole Home Match?
43:27 – What HGTV Doesn't Show You About Makeovers
47:06 – Designing a Home That Calms the Nervous System
49:29 – When a Bedroom Makeover Saves a Marriage
52:14 – How Your Environment Creates a Ripple Effect in Life
56:48 – Ever Forward
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In this episode of Ever Forward Radio, performance coach Natalie Hummel reframes what it truly means to be a high performer—arguing that excellence isn't built through discipline, talent, or mindset alone, but through nervous system mastery. Natalie explains how fear, pressure, and self-sabotage are not problems to eliminate but sensations to build capacity for, and why separating sensation from story is the key to performing with ease under stress. Together, we will explore identity, upper limits, resilience, flow states, and what high performance looks like in everyday life. This conversation offers a grounded, practical, and deeply human approach to performance—one rooted in presence, self-mastery, and the courage to feel what most people avoid.
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00:00 – What Is High Performance, Really?
01:10 – Pressure, Purpose, and Choosing Your Arena
03:40 – Is Life Happening To You or For You?
05:40 – Performance Mastery vs. Self-Mastery
07:50 – Fear, Ego, and the Nervous System
10:50 – Why Competition Really Means "Striving Together"
12:30 – Identity, Ego, and the Default Nervous System
14:50 – How Your Past Sets Upper Limits on Success
17:15 – Why Discipline Eventually Stops Working
20:10 – Revisiting the Places That Formed Your Nervous System
23:00 – Freedom From vs. Freedom To
28:45 – Signs of Nervous System Dysregulation
31:20 – Separating Sensation From Story
33:20 – What Resilience Actually Is
36:20 – How to Train Resilience (The Nightly Practice)
40:30 – Parenting as a High-Performance Practice
45:10 – Giving Up Discipline for Presence
47:50 – Expanding Capacity Under Stress
49:30 – Reframing Failure Without Identity Collapse
53:00 – Why You Must Acknowledge the Past (But Not Live There)
57:30 – Nervous System > Mindset
01:01:00 – Spiritual Bypassing and Wellness Culture Pitfalls
01:06:20 – Flow State, Ease, and Pressure
01:10:20 – Why Pressure Is a Privilege
01:14:15 – High Performance for Non-Athletes
01:18:30 – The One Practice That Changes Everything
01:20:20 – Ever Forward
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