Think your B2B world is doomed to be dry and boring? Kathryn Frankson sits down with Jay Schwedelson to prove the opposite, pulling stories from massive fintech stages, tiny city libraries, and even her own tea obsession to show how human your marketing could be. From last touch attribution myths to three year event strategies that actually leave room for creativity, this conversation is basically a permission slip to stop hiding behind spreadsheets and start telling real stories. If you have ever been told to just “stick to the numbers,” you are going to feel very seen.ㅤConnect with Kathryn on LinkedIn and explore Money20/20 to see how she brings human first storytelling into massive global fintech events.ㅤBest Moments:(01:20) Kathryn shares how years as a quota carrying B2B sales rep shaped her obsession with human centered marketing and real storytelling.(03:40) Why she loves so called boring B2B industries and hires people with zero events background to keep perspectives fresh and curious.(07:30) The New Berlin library trust fall video, a renamed Minnesota town, and a car dealership spoof show how wildly creative “unsexy” sectors can be.(10:05) Kathryn breaks down how Money20/20 uses three year strategy, data, and clear guardrails so creativity and storytelling are baked into the plan, not random one offs.(12:05) A takedown of last touch attribution and the gap between how humans actually discover brands and how most marketing teams try to measure it.(15:05) Kathryn sells Jay on switching from coffee to tea with a mini masterclass on polyphenols, calmer energy, and her “I like my marketing hot, but my tea hotter” tagline.ㅤCheck out Jay’s YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay’s TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/
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THIS WORKS! December's SECRET Intent Play + Don't Send Me a Holiday Card!🎁 Jay’s SCOOP | Ep. 458
December might feel like a throwaway month, but Jay Schwedelson is here with a simple shift that turns the end of the year into a lead and revenue spike by using intent signals as your actual offer. He walks through how to spot and capture real buying intent across B2B, consumer, and nonprofit campaigns, then finishes with some very honest (and funny) thoughts on holiday cards and those ridiculous surprise-car commercials. Expect specific copy ideas you can steal right away while everyone else is mentally on vacation.ㅤBest Moments:(00:20) Why December is secretly a goldmine if you stop mailing it in and lead with intent-based offers.(01:45) B2B examples like Q1 readiness audits, vendor comparison checklists, and RFP kickstart kits that instantly reveal who is in market.(03:05) Consumer plays such as last-minute hero finder and VIP early access for sellout items to target shoppers who are still actively buying.(04:15) Nonprofit hooks like donation impact calculators and sponsor a need selectors that surface serious year-end donors.(04:55) How intent signal campaigns in December and early January crush for pipeline, platform switches, and tax-motivated giving.(05:40) Jay’s rant on random family holiday cards and unrealistic holiday car gift commercials you never see in real life.ㅤCheck out Jay’s YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay’s TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/
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What’s Up THIS WEEK: Email EASY Win! AI Updates! 🫣 Stranger Things??👾 | Ep. 457
From under-16 social media bans in Australia to the sneaky reason your email should never go out exactly on the hour, this weekly rundown packs in plenty of usable takeaways and a little chaos. Jay Schwedelson connects policy shifts, inbox strategy, influencer math, and the latest AI land grab so you can keep your marketing sharp without living in a news feed. He even throws in some wild traffic stats and a Stranger Things rant that might make you question how old you feel right now.ㅤBest Moments:(00:16) Jay riffs on Australia's under 16 social media bans, Snapchat's behavioral signals, and why age gating is about to spread to the EU and US.(01:57) A dead-simple holiday email trick where not sending on the hour helps you dodge inbox clutter and lift open rates by around 15%.(03:15) Holiday influencer rate reality check for micro creators and why follower count means nothing without real engagement.(04:15) Jay makes the case for Team Gemini, breaking down fresh usage numbers and how it is catching up fast to ChatGPT.(05:09) Wild traffic stats reveal Yahoo and even Bing pulling more visits than ChatGPT, leaving Jay stunned at what people still type into their browsers.(06:34) From Wicked vs Zootopia 2 box office surprises to the very grown up Stranger Things cast still riding bikes, Jay wonders when nostalgia finally goes too far.ㅤCheck out Jay’s YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay’s TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/
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SPECIAL SERIES ==> The $5 Social Surge <== | BATHROOM Break #84 COLLAB: The Marketing Millennials + Do This, Not That
A quick-hit Bathroom Break with Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray that actually makes social feel manageable again — from tiny boost budgets that move mountains to a commenting play that beats mindless posting. You’ll also hear why short video still wins, how to turn email into a social flywheel, and a sneaky Stories tactic Daniel swears by.ㅤFollow Daniel on LinkedIn and check out The Marketing Millennials podcast for sharp, no-fluff marketing insights. Subscribe to Ari Murray’s newsletter at gotomillions.co for sharp, actionable marketing insights.ㅤBest Moments:(03:00) LinkedIn’s new comment impressions make thoughtful replies a growth channel, not an afterthought.(04:31) Micro budgets work: toss $5 on YouTube or under $50 on IG/LinkedIn to amplify content that’s already winning.(05:41) Treat short video like share fuel for DMs, Slack, and group chats with a tight first three seconds and a clean loop.(07:00) Stop propping up losers and only boost winners, plus link newsletter hero images straight to your social posts.(08:00) Balance rented and owned audiences so people see you wherever they actually pay attention.(08:45) Use IG Stories with DM keywords and simple automation to spark replies that lift your story distribution.ㅤCheck out Jay’s YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay’s TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/
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Anti-Burnout PLAYBOOK For Personal Brands 🔥 GUEST! Caleb Ralston | Ep. 455
Most people cranking out content feel like they’re on a hamster wheel, and this one is Jay Schwedelson basically turning his own burnout into a live strategy session with Caleb Ralston. They get into why copying 400-post-a-week creators is wrecking your brain, how to reverse engineer a cadence that actually fits your life, and what it really means for a personal brand to “work.” If you care more about leads, trust, and reputation than vanity metrics, this convo will mess with how you think about content in a good way.ㅤCheck out Caleb’s free 6-hour-and-22-minute YouTube course on how to build your personal brand, grab the companion workbook by dropping your email, and use it to level up before you ever think about hiring a media team.ㅤBest Moments:(00:16) Jay admits he “got the guy” behind some of the biggest personality-led brands because he wants to reverse engineer what actually works for personal brands.(03:00) Caleb explains why copying top creators’ insane content routines is like trying to train like the greatest athlete on day one and guarantees you will quit.(04:15) The low-volume, high-effort strategy that grew Caleb’s YouTube to over 50,000 subscribers from just seven videos by focusing on depth over constant posting.(08:58) Breaking down the Brand Journey Framework so you finally define why you are building a personal brand and what success is supposed to look like.(13:23) A behind-the-scenes example of a video designed with one job only: get talented creatives to DM Caleb so he can place them on client media teams.(16:01) Why views and followers are useful signals but become dangerous distractions when sales, conversions, and cost to acquire a customer are going the wrong way.ㅤCheck out Jay’s YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay’s TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/
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