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350: What Comes After AGI? A Vision for a Freedom-Based Economy with Jad Tarifi, Co-Founder of Integral AI
Dr. Jad Tarifi is the co-founder of Integral AI, a company he launched in 2021 after holding senior AI roles at Google. He earned his PhD in Computer Science and AI from the University of Florida and completed his undergraduate studies at the University of Waterloo. A returning guest to the podcast, Jad is a leading thinker on world models in AI and often shares insights on the science of longevity and the future of intelligence.In this conversation, we discuss:Why Jad believes the goal of AGI isn't intelligence but freedom, and how that redefinition reframes both ethics and alignmentThe role of world models in achieving AGI, and why video prediction alone isn't enough for robust, reliable reasoningWhat it means to design AI that can autonomously learn new skills with minimal energy and data, matching or exceeding human learning efficiencyHow Integral AI is building AGI-capable models by focusing on unsupervised abstraction and embodied, open-ended agentsHow Jad defines superintelligence and what it reveals about the evolving relationship between humans and machinesA glimpse into Integral’s long-term roadmap, including recursive superfactories and post-AGI economiesResources:Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work NewsletterConnect with Jad on LinkedInAI fun fact articleOn How To Pick The Right Business Problem to Solve with AIJad Tarifi’s past episode on how to train AI to reason like humans
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Empowering the Next Generation: Career, Leadership & Resilience Insights (International Youth Day Special Episode)
To celebrate International Youth Day (August 12), this special compilation episode of AI and the Future of Work brings together inspiring voices with wisdom for both young people starting out and the leaders, parents, and mentors guiding them.In this episode, we revisit key moments from four remarkable guests who share timeless lessons on navigating change, finding meaning in work, embracing vulnerability, and developing the human-centered skills that will matter most in the future.Featuring Guests:🔹 Bruce Feiler, Bestselling Author - Listen to the full conversation: https://www.buzzsprout.com/520474/episodes/14158168 🔹 Linda Rottenberg, Co-Founder & CEO, Endeavor - Listen to the full conversation: https://www.buzzsprout.com/520474/episodes/8356582 🔹 Mark McCrindle, Social Researcher & Speaker - Listen to the full conversation: https://www.buzzsprout.com/520474/episodes/13014260 🔹 William Osman, Tech Creator & YouTuber - Listen to the full conversation: https://www.buzzsprout.com/520474/episodes/15701415-301 💡 What You’ll Learn:Why your work journey will change multiple times—and how to embrace itHow vulnerability can make leaders more relatable and effectiveThe enduring value of human-centered skills in a tech-driven worldWhy experimentation and adaptability are critical for successHow leaders and mentors can help create opportunities for young peopleWhether you’re charting your own course or helping others navigate theirs, these conversations will inspire you to take bold steps toward a meaningful future.—Inspired by something in this episode? Share your favorite insight on social and tag us. And don’t forget to subscribe for more conversations with the leaders shaping the future of work.Other special compilation episodes: Lessons from Four Unicorn CEOs Disrupting Massive Markets with AI (Special Episode)Ethical AI in Hiring: How to Stay Compliant While Building a Fairer Future of Work (HR Day Special Episode)The Future of AI Ethics Special: Perspectives from Women Leaders in AI on Bias, Accountability & TrustAI and Safety: How Responsible Tech Leaders Build Trustworthy Systems (National Safety Month Special)World Health Day Special: How AI Is Making Healthcare Smarter, Cheaper, and KinderData Privacy Day Special Episode: AI, Deepfakes & The Future of Trust
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349: Can AI Reinvent Healthcare Admin? Cutting $260B in Waste and Optimizing Revenue Cycles with William Chan, CEO of Iodine Software
William Chan is the co-founder and CEO of Iodine Software, a company he helped launch in 2010 to pioneer the use of AI in helping healthcare providers get paid. A serial entrepreneur, he previously co-founded WhisperWire, acquired by Convergys, and Crimson, acquired by The Advisory Board, and has held product leadership roles at companies including Oracle. William holds a BS in computer science from Cornell University and an MBA from Harvard Business School.In this conversation, we discuss:The challenges hospitals face in accurately capturing patient care details for proper reimbursement.How AI can address staffing shortages by assisting with clinical documentation review.The importance of responsible AI that supports, rather than replaces, human decision-making in healthcare.Strategies to reduce bias and improve accuracy by training AI models on diverse datasets from different hospital types and geographies.Why AI must deliver clear, actionable insights that clinicians can validate, ensuring trust and accountability in healthcare decisions.William’s vision for reducing the $260 billion in administrative waste and enabling providers to focus more on patient care.Resources:Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work NewsletterConnect with William on LinkedInAI fun fact articleOn How To Revolutionizing Finance and Decision-MakingPast episodes mentioned in this conversation:[With Dr. Shiv Rao, CEO and Co-Founder of Abridge] - On How Generative AI is fixing the Biggest Problem faced by Doctors
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348: Will Society Evolve Fast Enough? AI Ethics, Quantum Futures, and Rethinking Humanity with Dr. Mark van Rijmenam
Dr. Mark van Rijmenam is ranked as the world's best futurists and is known globally for his trademark “Optimistic Dystopian” viewpoint. Recognized by Salesforce as a top voice shaping the future of AI, he’s a sought-after speaker on the relationship between innovation and humanity. He delivered the world’s first TEDx Talk in VR (2020) and introduced a digital twin that speaks 29 languages (2024). Mark holds a PhD in Management from the University of Technology Sydney, where he studied how organizations can use big data, blockchain, and AI. He’s also a six-time author and dedicated endurance athlete.In this conversation, we discuss:Why Dr. Mark van Rijmenam believes we need a paradigm shift to prepare society for the long-term consequences of AI and quantum computingThe critical difference between building technology for shareholders versus stakeholders and how that shapes our futureWhat the “spiral dynamics” framework reveals about humanity’s current worldview and its path toward a more interconnected mindsetHow banning technology for kids under 16 could protect future generations and reshape digital educationThe risks of anthropomorphizing AI and the need to preserve human agency in a world increasingly shaped by machinesWhat inspired Dr. Mark’s sixth book Now What? and how he uses fiction, philosophy, and global cultures to help readers ride the tsunami of changeResources:Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work NewsletterConnect with Mark on LinkedInAI fun fact articleOn Extending Life With AIExplore more from Dr. Mark van Rijmenam:Now What? How to Ride the Tsunami of ChangeFuturwise Platform — The Fastest Path to your Next InsightDr. Mark’s TEDx Talk in VRÂ
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347: Will AI Agents Redefine Automation? Balancing Autonomy and Guardrails with Bhaskar Roy, Chief of AI Products and Solutions at Workato
Bhaskar Roy is the Chief of AI Products & Solutions at Workato, the workflow automation leader with more than 11,000 customers and a $5.7 billion valuation. He has been with the company for nearly 11 years, previously serving as CMO. A serial head of products, Bhaskar co-founded Qik, which was acquired by Skype in 2011 for $150 million and later by Microsoft for $8.5 billion, and later held leadership roles at Playphone. He holds a Bachelor’s degree in Computer Science from the Birla Institute of Technology in Mesra, India.In this conversation, we discuss:Bhaskar’s journey from co-founding Qik to leading AI products at Workato, and why a lightbulb moment convinced him to pivot from marketing back to product innovationWhat Bhaskar learned from building products that scale globally and how those lessons shape his view on AI’s real-world impactWhy Bhaskar sees AI agents as the next leap beyond low-code automation and how they orchestrate complex business processesThe balance between deterministic workflows and AI’s reasoning capabilities, and how to maintain human oversightHow enterprises can move beyond AI experiments at the fringes to transformative use cases that deliver measurable ROIThe cultural shift required to embrace AI in the workplace, from reducing fear of automation to unlocking new opportunities for employeesResources:Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work NewsletterConnect with Bhaskar on LinkedInAI fun fact articleOn How to Help Companies Push Boldly Into The FuturePast episodes with amazing guests from Workato:Interview with Vijay Tella, CEO of WorkatoInterview with Carter Busse, CIO at Workato
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