What If You're Wrong?

• What If You're Wrong? With Mayor David Holt

  Jordan is delighted to be joined by the Mayor of Oklahoma City, Dean of the Oklahoma City School of Law, and incoming President of the United States Conference of Mayors, David Holt.  Jordan and Mayor Holt cover a lot of ground in this interview, discussing why city hall is the most exciting and effective venue for policy conversation in this country; Mayor Holt’s 3 C’s for virtuous leadership in government; the intricacies of open primaries and alternative voting systems; and, how national politics appear in the local arena.  Here’s where you can find Mayor Holt:  Website: https://www.okc.gov/government/mayor  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mayordavidholt/?hl=en  X: https://x.com/davidfholt?lang=en  During the conversation, Mayor Holt referenced his piece in the Philadelphia Citizen, titled, “A Republican Mayor’s Unexpected Presidential Vote.” Later in the interview, Jordan also referenced Benjamin Barber’s “If Mayors Ruled the World: Dysfunctional Nations, Rising Cities.” Do you have questions, suggestions, or recommendations for the podcast? You can contact Jordan at [email protected], or at his Instagram handle, @jordancbrown.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• What If You're Wrong? With Elisha Krauss

  In today’s episode, Jordan is delighted to talk with conservative political commentator, weekly Washington Examiner contributor, and new friend, Elisha Krauss.  The pair examine the evolution of her former “Never Trump” beliefs, to what extent we are in a constitutional crisis, what makes Elisha a self-described “conservative feminist,” and abortion rights in a post-Dobbs world. Here’s where you can find Elisha:  Website: https://elishakrauss.com/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elishakrauss/  X: https://x.com/elishakrauss?lang=en  During the interview, Elisha mentioned SoLo Funds, a community finance solution for people in crisis. SoLo can be found at their website here: http://Solofunds.com. Do you have questions, suggestions, or recommendations for the podcast? You can contact Jordan at [email protected], or at his Instagram handle, @jordancbrown.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• What If You're Wrong? With Josie Duffy Rice

  Jordan is joined by criminal justice advocate, law school graduate, Peabody-nominated podcast host, author, journalist, and long-time friend, Josie Duffy Rice – a true multi-hyphenate if there ever were one.  Together, they navigate the nuances of redemption, what criminal justice reform may look like under the second Trump administration, the complex decisions involved in choosing to migrate, and approaching diverse political conversations with empathy and understanding. Here’s where you can find Josie:  Website: https://www.josieduffyrice.com/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jduffyrice/?hl=en  Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/jduffyrice.bsky.social  Toward the end of the interview, Jordan referenced “The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness” by Michelle Alexander.  Do you have questions, suggestions, or recommendations for the podcast? You can contact Jordan at [email protected], or at his Instagram handle, @jordancbrown.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• What If You're Wrong? Listener Questions

  In the first listener questions episode of the series, Jordan recaps the first three episodes, answer listener questions, and describes a time he has asked himself, "What If You're Wrong?". Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• What If You're Wrong? With Jessica Malaty Rivera

  In today’s episode, Jordan is excited to speak with infectious disease epidemiologist, award-winning science communicator, and proud mama of three children, Jessica Malaty Rivera. Jessica’s passion for being a responsible, critical consumer of scientific information, becoming more media literate in an “infodemic”, and dispelling dangerous lies about vaccination and food safety drive the conversation. Now, more than ever, we must learn how to tell fact from fiction to make informed decisions in our lives, and Jessica equips us with the tools to do so while wading through the noise. We hope you enjoy Episode 3.  Here’s where you can find Jessica:  Substack: https://makingsciencemakesense.substack.com/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicamalatyrivera/?hl=en  Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:sni5r2zbg4co3vgvfleippf5  Threads: https://www.threads.net/@jessicamalatyrivera  Toward the end of the interview, Jessica referenced “How Charts Lie” by Alberto Cairo. Do you have questions, suggestions, or recommendations for the podcast? You can contact Jordan at [email protected], or at his Instagram handle, @jordancbrown.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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