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Have you ever prayed for a breakthrough that never came, and wondered what that says about your faith? Dr. Craig Keener, one of the most respected New Testament scholars, says we're only looking at half the story. He joins Remnant Radio to explore the theology of suffering - not as a theological afterthought for the Spirit-filled believer, but an essential part of the story Scripture actually tells.

ABOUT THE EPISODE:
Dr. Craig Keener, F.M. and Ada Thompson Professor of Biblical Studies at Asbury Theological Seminary, has spent his career defending the biblical and historical case for the miraculous. His two-volume Miracles is an essential read for believers (also available in his shorter version Miracles Today). His newest book on suffering turns to the question that so often gets left unanswered: what do we do when we've prayed, and prayed, and the diagnosis doesn't change?

Keener explores what Scripture actually shows us about suffering and healing side by side, including in the lives of the apostles. The conversation moves through difficult ground in Christian theology: whether suffering can be God's will, how the crucifixion holds together the greatest evil and the greatest good in human history, and why the two churches in Revelation given no correction from Christ are the two enduring persecution.

This isn't an argument against miracles. Keener has given his career to defending them. Rather, it's an invitation to hold suffering and hope together, the way Scripture always has.

0:00 – Introduction
2:06 – Keener's Testimony and Ministry
4:16 – Why Write About Suffering
8:38 – Western vs Global Suffering
14:19 – The Problem of Evil
15:55 – Miracles as Foretaste
23:10 – Purpose Found in Suffering
32:52 – Keener's Divorce and PTSD
41:34 – Faith Defined Rightly
44:46 – Birth Pangs and New Creation
54:16 – Caring for the Poor
58:48 – God's Will and Suffering

ABOUT THE GUEST:
- Dr. Craig Keener's website — https://craigkeener.com
- Suffering: Its Meaning for the Spirit-Filled Life by Craig S. Keener  https://a.co/d/0iO8MUtB
- Miracles Today https://a.co/d/0i145Az1
- Miracles : 2 Volumes: The Credibility of the New Testament Accounts https://a.co/d/0gOxo5Ar
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What happens when submission to God quietly becomes submission to a leader? When questioning your pastor starts getting treated like questioning God?

Those are the questions we're exploring as we review John Bevere's "Under Cover," one of the most widely read books on spiritual authority in the modern charismatic Church. We're holding up the book's conclusions against Hebrews 13, Romans 13, and what Jesus himself said about leaders exercising authority over believers. Does "Under Cover" hold up? Or does it hand pastors an authority the New Testament never actually gives them?

To be clear, we're not arguing against leadership or real spiritual authority rightly stewarded. We're asking where the line sits between genuine biblical submission and spiritual abuse dressed up in biblical language. For a lot of people in the body of Christ right now, that line has gotten blurry, and it's cost them.

0:00 – Introduction
9:57 – Romans 13 and Submission
28:03 – Spheres of Delegated Authority
41:40 – James and Jerusalem Council
59:48 – Submission Versus Obedience
1:18:59 – "Not Being Fed" Excuse
1:31:52 – Discerning Leaders' Decisions
1:39:38 – Exposing Versus Concealing Sin
1:48:28 – Korah's Rebellion Explained
1:55:52 – Ham, Noah, Cover-Up Culture
2:02:33 – Miriam, Aaron, Judgment
2:20:45 – Closing Thoughts and Resources
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At Kathryn Krick's Houston book signing for "Ignite Revival," over 200 people showed up. Attendees ended up on the floor, shaking, weeping and convulsing, while Krick kept signing copies of her book and called it "revival." Plenty of people online are calling it staged or coercive. Instead of responding to the experiences, Joshua Lewis and Michael Rowntree read the book itself.

What they found was more like cultish language than Scripture-based teaching. Krick promotes a clear structure where apostles and prophets hold the greatest anointing, disagreement gets dismissed as "old wine," and readers are steered away from any teacher outside Krick's own lineage, a lineage she traces to her "spiritual father," Tanzanian prophet GeorDavie, not to ordination or accountability. 

Josh and Michael compare the book against Scripture, chapter and verse. They land on why this pattern isn't just concerning . . . Kathryn Krick is mark and avoid.

0:00 – Introduction
2:49 – Katherine Krick Book Overview
6:53 – Apostles Prophets Greater Anointing
16:42 – Prophetic Reward Prosperity Claims
22:16 – Five-Fold Ministry Holiness
38:44 – Discrediting Other Ministries
45:29 – Old Wine New Wine Doctrine
50:25 – Removing Disagreement Dissent
56:58 – Spiritual Buffet Isolation Tactics
1:03:06 – Katherine's Unique Anointing Claims
1:06:51 – Spiritual Father Pecking Order
1:17:33 – Closing Thoughts

PREVIOUS RR EPISODE ON KATHRYN KRICK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_ifO5PX4NQ
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"Jesus Calling" has sold more than 50 million copies across its brand. It's been promoted by Christian leaders, shelved in bookstores and gift shops, and quoted from pulpits. A recent episode from Little Light Studios and Stephanie Griffin Ministries has raised a hard question about it: does this beloved devotional have New Age roots?

Joshua Lewis and Michael Miller will explore the claims, call balls & strikes, and help you discern whether this is a book to have on your nightstand or not.

Original episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGvP6K8aP54 

0:00 – Introduction
2:11 – Sarah Young Background
3:52 – God Calling Origins
6:01 – Miller's Initial Thoughts
11:40 – God Calling Introduction Quote
17:08 – Why So Popular Question
26:36 – Pantheism Quote Debate
39:04 – Making Jesus First Priority
45:22 – Contemplative Meditation Quote
49:52 – Cocoon Of Light Anathema
59:06 – Last Words And Blasphemy
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Is hell a divine torture chamber? Dr. Paul Copan says no, and he's the one defending the traditional view. In Part 2 of our Hell Debate series, the Palm Beach Atlantic University philosopher and co-editor of the forthcoming Concerning Hell makes the biblical case for eternal conscious punishment while giving annihilationism the fairest hearing you'll find anywhere. Fresh off Kirk Cameron's viral Hellgate roundtable, Copan and Joshua work through the texts, the caricatures, and the question underneath it all: who is the God doing the judging?

ABOUT THE EPISODE:
When people think of hell, images of the devil tormenting souls with a pitchfork and eternal fire come to mind. Dr. Paul Copan defends the traditional view of hell, but he wants that picture gone. So if that's not hell, what is? And if the popular image is a caricature, what exactly has the church been arguing about?

Copan isn't watching this debate from the cheap seats. He was at the table for Kirk Cameron's Hellgate roundtable, the conversation that lit up half the Christian internet. He co-edited the forthcoming book Concerning Hell (IVP Academic) with Chris Date, the very annihilationist who made the opposing case in Part 1 of this series. Friends on opposite sides, writing the book together. Now he sits down with Joshua for the conversation Hellgate didn't have time for.

And the texts get harder the closer you look. Jesus calls the prodigal son "lost" with the same destruction language annihilationists build their case on, yet the son walks home alive. Smoke rises forever in Revelation 14:10-11 from something that supposedly no longer exists. Matthew 25:46 puts eternal punishment and eternal life in the same breath, and both sides claim that verse as their own. Copan walks through each one, and along the way he admits something scholars rarely admit on camera: a text he used to read wrong, and what changed his mind about 2 Thessalonians 1:9.

Then Joshua asks the question this whole debate keeps circling: at what point does our picture of hell describe a different God altogether? 

Watch Part 1: https://youtu.be/sVOQfKMB6RI

0:00 Introduction
1:09 Dr. Paul Copan Introduction
3:08 Eternal Punishment vs Annihilationism
8:53 Kirk Cameron Hellgate Discussion
13:50 Early Church Fathers
17:55 Matthew 25 Eternal Punishment
29:17 Destruction Language: Matthew 10
38:05 2 Thessalonians: God's Presence
41:04 Revelation 14: Apocalyptic Imagery
52:04 Worshiping a Different God?
1:03:48 Universalism and Orthodoxy
1:11:41 Closing Thoughts

ABOUT THE GUEST: 
- Concerning Hell: The Doctrine in Theological, Philosophical, Historical, and Biblical Dialogue (ed. Paul Copan & Christopher M. Date, IVP Academic, available for pre-order): https://www.ivpress.com/concerning-hell
- Dr. Paul Copan's website: https://www.paulcopan.com

RESOURCES MENTIONED:
- The Great Divorce by C.S. Lewis: https://www.amazon.com/Great-Divorce-C-S-Lewis/dp/0061774197
- Erasing Hell by Francis Chan & Preston Sprinkle: https://www.amazon.com/Erasing-Hell-About-Eternity-Things/dp/0781407257
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