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The Overthinkers

Nathan Clarkson & Joseph Holmes
The Overthinkers
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    Why Do We Need Dark Stories? (With Josh Larsen)

    09/28/2026 | 1h 13 mins.
    From Grimms fairy tales to 1984 to the Bible itself, humanity has always told dark stories. But why? What purpose do they serve? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson discuss with film critic, author, and co-host of the "Filmspotting" podcast Josh Larsen.

    Websites

    The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world
    Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me
    Joseph Holmes: linktr.ee.com/josephholmes
    Josh Larsen: larsenonfilm.com
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    Why Do We Need Art? (With Dr. Merideth Hite Estevez)

    09/21/2026 | 54 mins.
    Why do we love art so much? What purpose does art serve for humans? Or is art useless and maybe that's a good thing? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson talk to author Dr. Merideth Hite Estevez about her new book "Art is How God Loves Us" on The Overthinkers. 

    References and resources

    Does art have health benefits? https://iris.who.int/server/api/core/bitstreams/e1cc8536-773d-446f-9822-8ae376f41415/content

    Can art express things words can’t? https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/langer/

    Is art useless? https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/526851-we-can-forgive-a-man-for-making-a-useful-thing

    Is art for therapy? https://www.alaindebotton.com/art/

    Website

    The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world
    Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me
    Joseph Holmes: linktr.ee.com/josephholmes
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    Why Don't We Trust the Elites? (With Aaron Renn)

    09/14/2026 | 1h 5 mins.
    Why is there so much anti-elite sentiment in the world today? Is it the fault of the elites themselves, or cultural trends they can't control? Joseph Holems and Nathan Clarkson talk to culture critic and author Aaron Renn on their latest episode. 

    Defining elites: 

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/elite

    https://www.annualreviews.org/content/journals/10.1146/annurev-soc-071811-145542?

    American trust in institutions at all-time low. https://news.gallup.com/poll/712436/confidence-institutions-remains-near-time-low.aspx

    Global trust decreasing from fear to grievance: https://www.edelman.com/trust/2025/trust-barometer

    Anti-elite sentiment worldwide: https://www.ipsos.com/en/populism-remains-strong

    Christopher Nolan on democracies and greatness: https://singjupost.com/transcript-christopher-nolan-interview-with-podcaster-zhong-shu/

    Low trust makes problems harder to solve: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2019/07/22/how-americans-see-problems-of-trust/

    Tyranny of merit hypothesis: https://pitchforkeconomics.com/episode/the-tyranny-of-merit-with-michael-sandel/

    Democratization of information hypothesis: https://www.discoursemagazine.com/p/revolt-of-the-public-10-years-on

    Elite overproduction hypothesis: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/the-elite-overproduction-hypothesis-994

    Websites

    The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world
    Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me
    Joseph Holmes: linktr.ee.com/josephholmes
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    Why Are We Addicted to Outrage?

    09/07/2026 | 1h 10 mins.
    Are we addicted to outrage? Why does everyone seem so angry? Is social media making us angrier or making us overperceive our anger? And if we are angrier, is that a good thing because we have so much to be angry about? Nathan Clarkson and Joseph Holmes discuss the theories and science behind outrage culture on the latest episode of The Overthinkers.

    References and resources

    Do most Americans think politics is worse today? https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/09/19/americans-feelings-about-politics-polarization-and-the-tone-of-political-discourse/

    Does negativity drive news consumption? https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-023-01538-4

    Does high emotion drive news consumption? https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1509/jmr.10.0353

    Does tribal signalling drive engagement? https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8256037

    Does moral grandstanding increase status? https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/papa.12075

    Does status seeking predict outrage? https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6795490/

    Do we overestimate how much outrage there is? https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-023-01582-0?

    Does social media amplify outrage? https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8363141/

    Is outrage good?: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37000374/

    Websites

    The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world
    Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me
    Joseph Holmes: linktr.ee.com/josephholmes
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    Should Towns and Cities Be Walkable?

    08/31/2026 | 1h 2 mins.
    There's a movement to make America's towns and cities more walkable and less car-dependent. But is that actually what's best for the people who live there? Nathan Clarkson and Joseph Holmes discuss.

    Walkable cities definition and case:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wai4ub90stQ&t=832s

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPbfdcvv0to&t=676s

    https://archive.strongtowns.org/journal/2023/2/14/why-so-difficult-build-walkable-places

     

    Critiques of the walkable cities movement

    https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/debunking-portland-city-doesnt-work

    https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/transit-urban-parasite

    Websites

    The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world
    Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me
    Joseph Holmes: linktr.ee.com/josephholmes
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About The Overthinkers
A place to have fun thinking deeply! Every week, the hosts of The Overthinkers pose a question having to do with art, faith, philosophy, psychology, literature, pop culture, creativity, and more—then attempt to answer it with the help of New York Times bestselling authors, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalists, Oscar-winning Hollywood directors/actors, Grammy-winning musicians, esteemed academics, prolific professors, and many more influential and intriguing guests. This is a place where you can both think well and laugh loudly. All are welcome, so put your thinking caps and your laughing socks on and come on in!
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