Not a lot of people predicted that Trump would fold and let Congress vote on the release of the Epstein files. But his retreat shows that Democrats have more leverage than conventional wisdom has suggested, and they should not rule out long shots in the fight against Trump’s authoritarian project. Meanwhile, MAGA looks to be fracturing in real time and Trump looks more and more vulnerable—on his ballroom, falling asleep in meetings, and his constant reminders that he’s only out for himself. Plus, MTG’s possible Saul to Damascus moment, Border Patrol’s invasion of Charlotte, bombing Venezuela would not be America First, and the Epstein emails are a reminder of how gross and nauseating the elites can be. Go away, Larry Summers.
Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller.
show notes
Chris Geidner on Greg Bovino's appalling misuse of E.B. White's legacy and "Charlotte's Web"
Bill's "Bulwark on Sunday" with Mark Hertling on Venezuela
Tim's book, "Why We Did It"
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David Frum: This Is Shame-Faced Trump
Our commander-in-chief and breaker of mores can only muster the energy to beg Republicans to stop talking about Epstein. Where is the blustery guy who's declared that only suckers pay taxes and that he could shoot anyone on 5th Avenue? Because of the lame duck smell he's giving off—and the economic problems Trump himself brought on—he's not getting the support he needs from the outer MAGA media world that's obsessed with Epstein. Meanwhile, he's getting ready to have taxpayers pay off his cronies for trying to help steal the 2020 election. Plus, the four kinds of corruption in the Trump administration, the Caribbean boat bombings have driven down the price of cocaine, and the origins and modern flowering of antisemitism on the left and right.
David Frum joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod.
show notes
David's recent episode on the military buildup off the coast of Venezuela
David's interview with Sarah this week
Tim's playlist
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Alex Wagner: Team Trump Can't Get Its Epstein Story Straight
Trump's involvement with Epstein is simultaneously a "hoax," but he was also a "perfect gentleman" when he spent hours with one of Epstein's underage victims, Virgina Giuffre, at Epstein's pad. And Trump was an FBI informant on Epstein's sex trafficking, but again, it's all a hoax. The White House and Fox's defense is not working, and Trump may be in the worst political shape he's been in since the aftermath of January 6. Meanwhile, the wealthy and powerful old men needing teenage girls raises huge questions about manhood and virility. Plus, the shutdown fight was a stress test for how far the Dems were willing to go in the face of an authoritarian, and the party's big tent strategy faces real headwinds.
Alex Wagner joins Tim Miller.
show notes
Alex's new podcast, "Runaway Country"
The Atlantic's piece, "The Limits of the Democrats’ Big Tent"
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Mikie Sherrill and Michael Fanone: Full-Time Criming and Corruption
New Jersey’s governor-elect credits her big win last week to an affordability message—and ignoring the pundits. But Sherrill also tied rising costs and declining economic opportunity to Trump’s laser-like focus on the worldwide extortion racket he’s running out of the Oval Office. Plus, former D.C. cop Michael Fanone says the current FBI won’t follow up on the threats against him and his family, the Justice Department doesn’t seem too concerned about pedophilia, and “snowflake” border patrol boss Greg Bovino has small-man complex.
Gov.-elect Mikie Sherrill and Michael Fanone join Tim Miller.
show notes
Tim's 'Bulwark Take' with Julie K. Brown
Sarah and Andrew on the Epstein emails
Tim and Dave Wasserman on Dems racking up redistricting wins
Fanone's YouTube channel
Will Sommer's reporting on The Blaze's pipe-bomb story
Will on Kash's private jet problem
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Chris Hayes: Trump Has Become 'The Establishment'
While Trump won the first time as an anti-status-quo hero, the low-trust podcast cranks like Rogan and Tim Dillon who put him back in the White House now see him as the establishment. And they’re making Trump own the economy, the security state of masked marauders and bombing campaigns—and his close ties to the tech companies. The Democrats have not had a better moment to run against the status quo since 2008. Meanwhile, the insidious anti-semitism from Candace and Tucker has reached insane levels. Plus, the accusations that Schumer was behind the cavers, the filibuster already favors Republicans, and the risks and rewards of candidates pursuing a high-attention strategy.
Chris Hayes joins Tim Miller.
show notes
"All In with Chris Hayes" on MS NOW
"Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast"
"The Sirens' Call: How Attention Became the World's Most Endangered Resource," Chris's latest book
Marc Andreessen mocking the pope on Twitter
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