Is The Most Dangerous Thing Trump Can Do
In this episode, Chuck Todd unpacks a week where political theater carried real consequences, from Pam Bondi’s high-profile hearing and the Justice Department’s bruised credibility to renewed controversy over the Epstein files and why Trump appears uneasy about what could surface. Chuck explores how Trump’s actions—from refusing to help key Republicans like John Cornyn in Texas to escalating trade and tariff fights that split his own party—may be doing tactical damage to GOP midterm prospects, even putting critical races in Michigan and beyond at risk. He also examines donor frustration, the political fallout of Trump’s UAE corruption scandal, and why internal Republican divisions could shape whether Democrats win a narrow or sizable House majority. Finally, Chuck looks at the surprisingly strong jobs report, the murky influence of prediction markets, and why, if Democrats ultimately capture the Senate, Trump himself may be the biggest reason why.
Then, founder of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America Paul Rieckhoff joins for a wide-ranging conversation that moves from the football field to the battlefield and into the halls of power. Paul shares how his family's experience with Vietnam shaped his own path into the military and explores why the scars of Iraq and Afghanistan haven't left the same political mark as Vietnam did. The discussion dives into the state of today's all-volunteer military, raising concerns about recruiting under Pete Hegseth's leadership at the Pentagon, the politicization of military culture, and the promotion of a specific ideological agenda within the Department of Defense—including what it means for democracy when the most powerful military in the world operates with fewer checks than ever.
The conversation then shifts to the growing power of political independents, with Paul making the case that unaffiliated voters and veteran candidates could serve as a moderating force in American politics. From the potential impact of just a handful of independent senators to why no military veteran has won the presidency since George H.W. Bush, Paul and Chuck explore what it would take to break the two-party stranglehold. They also touch on the challenges of independent media, how national security can be a clarifying lens for consuming news, and why Paul believes every voter should consider declaring independence—arguing it gives them more power, not less.
Finally, Chuck answers listeners’ questions in the “Ask Chuck” segment.
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Timeline:
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00:00 Chuck Todd’s introduction
03:00 The Pam Bondi hearing was all theater, but it did matter
04:30 Trump’s cabinet hearings have an audience of one…Trump
05:00 DOJ’s credibility took a massive hit this week
05:45 Grand jury refused to indict Democratic members of congress
07:15 Bondi fanned the flames over Epstein files, now she’s backtracking
08:00 Trump seems awfully nervous about the files, like he’s hiding something
09:30 The question is do the Dems get a large or small majority in the house
11:00 There is a ceiling for Democratic gains
11:45 Trump isn’t interested in helping Republicans in the midterms
12:15 Trump not endorsing Cornyn in Texas put the senate seat in play
13:45 Republican donors are upset Trump won’t help in Texas
15:15 Trump’s UAE corruption scandal the worst of all time
16:45 Trump’s threats over bridge to Canada hurts GOP in Michigan
18:00 Owner of other bridge lobbied Lutnick, now Trump threatens shutdown
18:30 New bridge is good for Michigan, this put Mike Rogers in jeopardy
19:30 Trump is doing tactical harm to their midterm election chances
20:15 Trump’s tariff mess has divided his own party
21:30 Mike Johnson couldn’t stop vote in the house on tariffs
23:00 Trump doesn’t care about the future of the Republican party
24:45 Trump says no to another reconciliation bill, also bad for GOP
26:30 Jobs report was good despite admin officials previewing a bad one
27:15 Are administration officials cashing in on the prediction markets?
28:00 Prediction markets are extraordinarily corruptable
29:30 Higher tax refunds will get eaten by higher costs, not politically helpful
30:45 If Democrats win the senate, they’ll have Donald Trump to thank
32:00 Far right candidate beat the center left coalition in Japan
33:30 Independents need to assert their political power in America
36:00 The country’s political affiliations don’t fix neatly into two boxes
45:00 Paul Rieckhoff joins the Chuck Toddcast
47:00 Why football is the most selfless sport
48:45 Defense in football feels like it has caught up to offense
51:00 How & why did you get into the military?
52:45 Nobody feels the acute impact of politics more than military members
54:00 Impact of Vietnam on Paul’s father & family
56:00 Anyone eligible for the draft in Vietnam were obsessive over details
57:30 No Vietnam vet ever won the presidency, but came close
59:15 Scars from Iraq/Afghanistan haven’t affected politics like Vietnam did
59:45 All-volunteer military is good for military but terrible for democracy
1:00:30 Shunning NATO would have been unthinkable just a decade ago
1:01:15 Worried about military recruiting under Pete Hegseth
1:02:00 Hegseth is waging a culture war from the Pentagon
1:03:15 Recruiting tactics are recruiting a very specific type of candidate
1:04:30 Changes in policy are politicizing the military & changing culture
1:05:45 Hegseth is prioritizing & promoting christianity at the Pentagon
1:06:15 Trump has the most powerful military & can do what he wants with it
1:06:45 Most dangerous thing Trump can do is invoke Insurrection Act
1:07:30 Pentagon press corp has been replaced with propogandists
1:09:45 The only thing checking Trump is himself & Chairman of Joint Chiefs
1:11:00 Trump has been more strategic this term, & is ahead of schedule
1:12:30 Military culture & families historically tend to lean right politically
1:13:45 Many veterans remain politically unaffiliated
1:14:45 We haven’t elected a military veteran since George H.W. Bush
1:15:45 Combat service gives you a true sense of the cost of war
1:17:30 Washington & Eisenhower closest to being “independent” presidents
1:18:45 Efforts to get veterans elected to local/state office
1:21:00 Independents have their leanings but reject the two parties
1:23:00 A true independent could be the most powerful member of senate
1:23:45 4-6 independent’s could be a moderating fulcrum in senate
1:25:30 Even two independents breaking with their caucus would be huge
1:28:00 How can each party appeal to independent veterans?
1:31:00 Every voter should declare independence, gives them more power
1:32:00 Balancing creating vs. ingestion working in independent media
1:35:00 National security is a great clarifier when consuming news
1:36:15 Waking up early is the best way to avoid distractions
1:37:30 Israel’s citizen-military culture creates a lot of activism
1:38:30 Instability created by Trump has engaged the electorate
1:40:45 ICE has made the danger posed by administration very immediate
1:41:45 If running for office was viable for independents, Paul would consider it
1:43:30 Veterans that want to service should run for office, not join ICE
1:47:45 Races with independents to track
1:49:00 Ask Chuck
1:49:15 Isn’t congress responsible for border policy?
1:55:30 Is the reason Noem hasn’t been fired, that Trump wants on Mt. Rushmore?
1:58:00 Why do celebrities lend their names to companies that hurt their customers?
2:03:15 Would moderate Democrats do better running as independents?
2:08:30 Does Utah law to expand Supreme Court open the door for court packing?
2:12:15 What can be done to modernize education, add national service?
2:23:45 Thoughts on sports post-football
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