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Apathy Is Not An Option

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Apathy Is Not An Option
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  • Apathy Is Not An Option

    Ep. 19: Hasan Kwame Jeffries on Reckoning With 250 Years of American History

    08/11/2026 | 32 mins.
    An expert in confronting “hard history,” professor Hasan Kwame Jeffries joins Apathy Is Not an Option for a conversation on the importance of engaging with the United States’ complete history — the good and the bad — during its 250th year. As the nation looks back on its past and imagines the future to come, Jeffries highlights why historical truth matters, what the Black freedom struggle teaches about democracy and how understanding the past can help us resist apathy in the present.

    Apathy Is Not an Option is a production of PRX and the Southern Poverty Law Center. Nichole Hill and Mark Pagán are the senior producers and editors, and Jade Abdul-Malik is the associate producer. Terence Bernardo handles sound design and mixing. Alexandria Beightol is the host. For the SPLC, the executive producers are Cassandra Douglas and Julian Teixeira, and Kali Robinson is the associate producer, with assistance from technical producer Neil Parekh and senior producer Jennifer Lazarus of Digimentors. From PRX Productions, the project manager is Edwin Ochoa, and the EP is Jocelyn Gonzales.

    Visit splcenter.org and follow us on social media to learn more, take action, and support the work of dismantling white supremacy and advancing racial and economic justice.
  • Apathy Is Not An Option

    Ep. 18: Looking Back and Moving Forward for America’s 250th

    07/28/2026 | 46 mins.
    The United States’ 250th year is a time for celebrating, reflecting and looking ahead to envision the nation’s next milestones. Apathy Is Not an Option talks to the SPLC’s Rivka Maizlish about how to honestly reckon with the past on this important occasion, with further insight from professor Carol Anderson on learning from historical struggles to create a better future. That future will be shaped by young people like recent high school graduate Harper Walton-Mouw, who joins us to discuss what the 250th means to her generation.

    Apathy Is Not an Option is a production of PRX and the Southern Poverty Law Center. Nichole Hill and Mark Pagán are the senior producers and editors, and Jade Abdul-Malik is the associate producer. Terence Bernardo handles sound design and mixing. Alexandria Beightol is the host. For the SPLC, the executive producers are Cassandra Douglas and Julian Teixeira, and Kali Robinson is the associate producer, with assistance from technical producer Neil Parekh and senior producer Jennifer Lazarus of Digimentors. From PRX Productions, the project manager is Edwin Ochoa, and the EP is Jocelyn Gonzales.

    Visit splcenter.org and follow us on social media to learn more, take action, and support the work of dismantling white supremacy and advancing racial and economic justice.
  • Apathy Is Not An Option

    Ep. 17: Protect Sapelo. Defend Our Legacy.

    07/02/2026 | 45 mins.
    What does it take to protect a community from being pushed off its own land? This week on Apathy Is Not an Option, Sapelo Island advocate Josiah “Jazz” Watts joins attorneys from the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Economic Justice litigation team to break down the fight to preserve one of the last intact Gullah-Geechee communities in the South. As developers push for expansion and rising property values threaten generational land ownership, longtime residents have been forced into court to defend their culture, history and right to remain.

    Apathy Is Not an Option is a production of PRX and the Southern Poverty Law Center. Nichole Hill and Mark Pagán are the senior producers and editors, and Jade Abdul-Malik is the associate producer. Terence Bernardo handles sound design and mixing. Alexandria Beightol is the host. For the SPLC, the executive producers are Cassandra Douglas and Julian Teixeira, with assistance from technical producer Neil Parekh and senior producer Jennifer Lazarus of Digimentors. From PRX Productions, the project manager is Edwin Ochoa, and the EP is Jocelyn Gonzales.

    Visit splcenter.org and follow us on social media to learn more, take action, and support the work of dismantling white supremacy and advancing racial and economic justice.
  • Apathy Is Not An Option

    Ep. 16: Fair Housing in America: From Redlining to Accountability

    05/12/2026 | 44 mins.
    April is Fair Housing Month — a time to reflect on what it really takes to achieve housing justice. In this episode of Apathy Is Not an Option, host Alex Beightol is joined by Teresa Fox-Bettis, a regional fair housing expert based in the Gulf Coast, and Richard Rothstein, a nationally recognized housing scholar and author, to examine the legacy of redlining and what true accountability looks like today. This conversation challenges us to confront how policy shaped inequality — and what it will take to change it.

    Apathy Is Not an Option is a production of PRX and the Southern Poverty Law Center. Nichole Hill and Mark Pagán are the senior producers and editors, and Jade Abdul-Malik is the associate producer. Terence Bernardo handles sound design and mixing. Alexandria Beightol is the host. For the SPLC, the executive producers are Cassandra Douglas and Julian Teixeira, with assistance from technical producer Neil Parekh and senior producer Jennifer Lazarus of Digimentors. From PRX Productions, the project manager is Edwin Ochoa, and the EP is Jocelyn Gonzales.

    Visit splcenter.org and follow us on social media to learn more, take action, and support the work of dismantling white supremacy and advancing racial and economic justice.
  • Apathy Is Not An Option

    Ep. 15: Afrofuturism in Action: Reimagining a Future Where Black Communities Thrive

    04/21/2026 | 20 mins.
    What does it take to build a future where Black communities not only survive, but thrive? Walter Greason and Reynaldo Anderson join Apathy Is Not an Option to explore how Afrofuturism helps us reimagine what’s possible and how it intersects with the Southern Poverty Law Center’s work to advance racial justice, strengthen democracy and challenge systemic inequality.

    Apathy Is Not an Option is a production of PRX and the Southern Poverty Law Center. Nichole Hill and Mark Pagán are the senior producers and editors. Terence Bernardo handles sound design and mixing. Alexandria Beightol is the host. For the SPLC, the executive producers are Cassandra Douglas and Julian Teixeira, with assistance from technical producer Neil Parekh and senior producer Jennifer Lazarus of Digimentors. From PRX Productions, the project manager is Edwin Ochoa, and the EP is Jocelyn Gonzales.

    Visit splcenter.org and follow us on social media to learn more, take action, and support the work of dismantling white supremacy and advancing racial and economic justice.
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About Apathy Is Not An Option
While the fight for social justice is ongoing, SPLC and communities in the South continue to make progress on the most pressing issues facing our country. Every month, we go behind the headlines to bring you relevant stories that center around social justice in the South. From eradicating poverty to voting rights, and dismantling White Nationalism, we actively reshape the narrative of what’s happening in the South. 
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