The Crucible - The JRTC Experience Podcast

• 096 S04 Ep 05 – Drones in the Fight: Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems at Echelon during Large-Scale Combat Operations w/LTC Mason Thornal & CW3 Jerrad Rader

  The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the ninety-sixth episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by the Task Force Senior for the BDE Command & Control (BCT HQ), LTC Timothy Price on behalf of the Commander of Ops Group (COG). Today’s guests are the notorious “Geronimo 06,” LTC Mason Thornal, and a seasoned Observer-Coach-Trainer across the fire support enterprise at the JRTC, CW3 Jerrad Rader. LTC Mason Thornal is the Battalion Commander of 1-509th IN (OPFOR). CW3 Jerrad Rader is the Brigade Targeting Officer OCT for BC2 (BCT HQ) with seventeen rotations as an OCT. In this episode, we focus on the integration and employment of small unmanned aircraft systems (sUAS) at echelon during large-scale combat operations (LSCO). The conversation explores how sUAS platforms—ranging from short-range quadcopters to medium-range reconnaissance systems—are increasingly prevalent across formations, including at the squad, company, and battalion levels. While these tools enhance battlefield transparency and ISR (intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance) capabilities, they also introduce significant challenges in areas such as target identification, airspace deconfliction, and command and control. Rather than solving new problems, sUAS platforms are reframing existing warfighting challenges with different tools and at new echelons, placing additional emphasis on defining authorities, refining standard operating procedures (SOPs), and ensuring operators understand their role within the broader targeting process.   The episode also highlights best practices and points of friction in employing sUAS across the force. A major issue is the lack of standardized processes and knowledge management systems to handle the influx of information generated by sUAS. Brigades must move beyond simply acquiring new platforms to fully integrating them into the targeting cycle, using tools like targeting synchronization matrices and engagement criteria. Proficiency and training are recurring themes—highlighting that operator skill can be the difference between mission success and failure. The episode concludes by urging leaders to invest in home station training, share lessons learned across units, and foster innovation at the lowest levels, reinforcing that success with sUAS in LSCO will come from disciplined process integration, not just hardware acquisition.   Part of S04 “Scouts Out” series.   For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast   Be sure to follow us on social media to keep up with the latest warfighting TTPs learned through the crucible that is the Joint Readiness Training Center.   Follow us by going to: https://linktr.ee/jrtc and then selecting your preferred podcast format.   Again, we’d like to thank our guests for participating. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and review us wherever you listen or watch your podcasts — and be sure to stay tuned for more in the near future.   “The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.

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• 095 S05 Ep 03 – Blood, Sweat, and Battlefield Medicine: Medical Operations in Large-Scale Combat Operations w/two JRTC Medical Professionals

  The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the ninety-fifth episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by the Task Force Senior for the TF Sustainment (BSB / CSSB), LTC Bruce Roett on behalf of the Commander of Ops Group (COG). Today’s guests are two seasoned medical professionals with TF Sustainment (BSB / CSSB), CPT Victor Velez and SFC Jason Kohne. CPT Velez is the Senior Medical Operations Officer OCT and SFC Kohne is the Medical Operations NCO OCT.   In this episode, we examine the critical role of medical operations during large-scale combat operations (LSCO), emphasizing the complex realities faced by medics in high-intensity environments. The conversation underscores the physical, emotional, and tactical demands placed on Army medical personnel who must operate with minimal rest, high casualty volumes, and limited evacuation windows. The discussion highlights the need for rigorous, realistic pre-deployment training—such as TCCC, paramedic certification, and stress-inducing field exercises like “Gator Top Dog”—to prepare medics for the brutal realities of sustained combat. A key theme is the importance of leader involvement, particularly from NCOs, in building emotional resilience, monitoring burnout, and creating a culture of trust where medics can ask for help and remain mission-effective throughout the fight.   The episode also delves into key best practices for organizing and supporting medical operations across echelons. Notable lessons include the effective use of FLA (field litter ambulance) staging forward with infantry battalions, use of Class VIII speedballs during casualty evacuation, and the importance of a synchronized and well-communicated medical concept of support. The team discussed common points of friction such as overuse or underuse of medical transport assets, breakdowns in communications between various medical nodes, and lack of rehearsals between sustainers and combat leaders. Additionally, the discussion covers medical evacuation planning and the importance of maintaining a well-structured casualty evacuation (CASEVAC) process to support prolonged combat engagements. The episode closed with emphasis on integrating joint and partner forces, refining base cluster security measures, and the need for a return to basic soldier skills and medical readiness.   Part of S05 “Beans, Bullets, Band-Aids, Batteries, Water, & Fuel” series.   For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast   Be sure to follow us on social media to keep up with the latest warfighting TTPs learned through the crucible that is the Joint Readiness Training Center.   Follow us by going to: https://linktr.ee/jrtc and then selecting your preferred podcast format.   Again, we’d like to thank our guests for participating. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and review us wherever you listen or watch your podcasts — and be sure to stay tuned for more in the near future.   “The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.

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• 094 S02 Ep 17 – Leadership at Echelon & the Sergeant Major’s Impact on Warfighting within the BCT w/CSM Michael Hall

  The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the ninety-fourth episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by COL Ricky Taylor, the Commander of Ops Group (COG). Today’s guest is a familiar face on The Crucible, the former Command Sergeant Major of Ops Group (CSMOG), CSM Michael Hall.   This episode explores the evolving role of non-commissioned officers (NCOs) in large-scale combat operations (LSCO), with a special emphasis on the sergeant major’s critical influence on unit discipline, readiness, and execution. Discussions highlight the transition from counterinsurgency to LSCO, emphasizing how the Army is adapting to the realities of high-intensity warfare. The conversation underscores the importance of disciplined formations, accountability, and a strong combat mindset, which sergeant majors play a central role in fostering. The episode also delves into leadership at echelon, emphasizing the need for NCOs to hold each other accountable and build a culture of excellence through rigorous training and adherence to the fundamentals.   A significant portion of the discussion focuses on the involvement of sergeant majors in planning and execution, particularly in mitigating risk, ensuring mission success, and developing junior leaders. The conversation explores how NCOs can better integrate into mission analysis, wargaming, and staff planning to enhance operational effectiveness. Additionally, the importance of battlefield circulation, command presence, and real-time decision-making is emphasized, with insights on how sergeant majors can alleviate command anxiety by identifying and addressing points of friction. The episode concludes with a strong call for NCOs to instill a combat-ready culture through meticulous training, trust-building, and fostering pride in the profession, ensuring formations are prepared for the challenges of LSCO.     Part of S02 “If I Would Have Only Known” series.     For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast   Be sure to follow us on social media to keep up with the latest warfighting TTPs learned through the crucible that is the Joint Readiness Training Center.   Follow us by going to: https://linktr.ee/jrtc and then selecting your preferred podcast format.   Again, we’d like to thank our guests for participating. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and review us wherever you listen or watch your podcasts — and be sure to stay tuned for more in the near future.   “The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.

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• 093 S01 Ep 33 – Large-Scale Combat Operations Symposium 2024 w/COL Ricky Taylor

  The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the ninety-third episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience’ and the fourth* annual Large Scale Combat Operations Symposium. Hosted by COL Ricky Taylor, the Commander of Ops Group (COG). Today’s guests are all seasoned observer-coach-trainers (OCTs) from across Operations Group, LTC Bruce Roett, LTC Amoreena York, LTC Westly “West” LaFitte, MAJ David Pfaltzgraff, MAJ Danielle Villaneuva, SGM Nancy Martinez, and MSG Bradley Robinson as well as a senior member of the JRTC’s Opposing Force, MAJ Dustin Lawrence and SGM Robert Listau from the US Army Special Operations Command’s Special Operations Training Detachment. Opening remarks were provided by LTG Christopher LaNeve, the Commanding General of Eighth Army and Chief of Staff for Combined Forces Command (Korea).    Our panel members are observer-coach-trainers with numerous decisive action training environment rotations between them. LTC Roett is the Task Force Senior and MSG Robinson is the Senior Enlisted Medical Advisor OCT for TF Sustainment (BSB / CSSB). LTC York is the Task Force Senior for the TF Aviation (CAB / ATF). LTC LaFitte is the Brigade Executive Officer OCT and MAJ Pfaltzgraff is the BDE S-3 Operations OCT for Brigade Command & Control (BDE HQ). MAJ Lawrence is the Battalion S-3 Operations Officer for 1-509th IN (OPFOR) “Geronimo.” MAJ Villaneuva is the BN Executive Officer OCT for TF-5 (BEB). SGM Martinez is the Senior Enlisted Advisor OCT for the Intel TF. MSG Robinson is the SGM Listau is the Senior Enlisted Advisor OCT for the Special Operations Training Detachment.   The purpose of the ‘LSCO Symposium’ is to advance conversation on warfighting and share observations and lessons learned. We will discuss large scale violence today, but this discussion transcends mission sets. Train for high end competition and scale down as required.   In this episode, we delve into the realities of warfighting in large-scale combat operations (LSCO), with a strong emphasis on the core principles of maneuver warfare, fire support, and sustainment operations. LSCO demands a shift in mindset from counterinsurgency operations to a high-intensity, multi-domain fight requiring coordination across vast operational areas. Key topics include the importance of decentralized command and control (C2), rapid decision-making under pressure, and the necessity of training units to operate with dispersed formations to enhance survivability in a contested battlespace. The discussion also underscores the role of divisions in shaping the battlefield for brigades, ensuring that combat formations can mass effects at decisive points.   Additionally, the episode explores the integration of emerging technologies and lessons learned from recent conflicts, particularly the war in Ukraine, to better prepare for future engagements. The conversation addresses how logistics and fires remain the backbone of LSCO, requiring synchronization at all echelons to sustain the fight. Commanders need to think deeply about sustainment at the point of need, the role of reconnaissance in shaping the fight, and how brigades can best leverage enablers in their operations. Overall, the discussion reinforces that while the domains of warfare may evolve, the fundamental principles of war—mass, maneuver, and tempo—remain unchanged and must be mastered to ensure success on the modern battlefield.   Part of S01 “The Leader’s Laboratory” series.   Don’t forget to checkout our first, second, and third annual Large Scale Combat Operations Symposium, episodes sixteen, thirty, and sixty-six of ‘The Crucible.’   For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast   Be sure to follow us on social media to keep up with the latest warfighting TTPs learned through the crucible that is the Joint Readiness Training Center.   Follow us by going to: https://linktr.ee/jrtc and then selecting your preferred podcast format.   Again, we’d like to thank our guests for participating. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and review us wherever you listen or watch your podcasts — and be sure to stay tuned for more in the near future.   “The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.   *The first annual LSCO Symposium was conducted at Ft. Benning/Moore but hosted by the JRTC Team.

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• 092 S01 Ep 32 – The Backbone of the Battlefield: Command Sergeants Major in Large-Scale Combat w/CSM Oracio Pena and CSM Michael Hall

  The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the ninety-second episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by the Task Force Senior for the BDE Command & Control (BCT HQ), LTC Timothy Price on behalf of the Commander of Ops Group (COG). Today’s guests are two senior command sergeants major, CSM Oracio Pena and CSM Michael Hall. CSM Pena is the Post Command Sergeant Major for the Joint Readiness Training Center. And CSM Hall is the former Command Sergeant Major of Operations Group (CSMOG) at the JRTC.   In this episode, delve into the critical role of Command Sergeants Major (CSMs) in large-scale combat operations (LSCO), emphasizing how their responsibilities have shifted significantly from previous counterinsurgency conflicts. Unlike the Global War on Terror (GWOT) era, where CSMs frequently engaged directly in tactical-level fights, LSCO demands that they operate at the brigade and division levels to ensure synchronization of sustainment, logistics, and mission execution. The discussion highlights how CSMs serve as key advisors to their commanders, focusing on maintaining operational tempo, enforcing discipline, and ensuring sustainment operations keep pace with maneuver elements. This episode stresses that effective CSMs must actively engage with their staff, understand logistical constraints, and provide mentorship to ensure that friction points—especially in sustainment and medical evacuation—are addressed before they become mission failures. A significant theme throughout the conversation is the importance of proactive leadership and presence. CSMs are not simply battlefield observers but are expected to shape unit culture, mentor leaders at echelon, and enforce standards that directly impact combat effectiveness. The episode underscores the need for CSMs to actively participate in staff planning, particularly during the military decision-making process (MDMP), rehearsals, and sustainment operations. Another key takeaway is the role of CSMs in refining unit training at home station to prepare soldiers for the scale and complexity of LSCO. The discussion concludes by emphasizing that CSMs must move beyond their traditional comfort zones, focusing less on small-unit leadership and more on the broader operational picture, ensuring their units remain combat-ready and function effectively within a larger joint and coalition force.   Part of S01 “The Leader’s Laboratory” series.   For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast   Be sure to follow us on social media to keep up with the latest warfighting TTPs learned through the crucible that is the Joint Readiness Training Center.   Follow us by going to: https://linktr.ee/jrtc and then selecting your preferred podcast format.   Again, we’d like to thank our guests for participating. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and review us wherever you listen or watch your podcasts — and be sure to stay tuned for more in the near future.   “The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.

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