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- Heidi Hatch joins Maura Carabello and former Utah State Auditor John Dougall to examine how America has changed in the 25 years since 9/11 and debate plans to memorialize Charlie Kirk at UVU. They also discuss Gov. Spencer Cox’s “Disagree Better” campaign, questions surrounding his growing national profile and a Justice Department lawsuit challenging Utah’s in-state tuition policy for undocumented immigrants.
- Host: Heidi Hatch
Guests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group, and Doug Fiefia, Utah representative and Senate candidate
Utah Legislature dives into issues months before the session
To Flock or Not to Flock?
This week: Utah lawmaker to propose “parameters” for Flock cameras and ALPRs
Two months out from Election Day
President Trump on the campaign trail
Bears Ears and Grand Staircase protections - Take 2 Podcast
Host: Heidi Hatch
Guests: Maura Carabello and Adam Gardiner
Welcome back after the Take 2 summer break.
While we were taking a break -
Salt Lake City Mayor Erin Mendenhall’s divorce filing and whether she will run for reelection as Luz Escamilla enters the race.
Sen. Todd Weiler’s new role leading the Sutherland Institute.
Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante resized.
The continuing war with Iran.
More than half a million acres burned in Utah this summer.
Flock cameras—and why so many Utahns are pushing back.
Nine weeks until Election Day.
Election watch
The SAVE America Act: voter ID, proof of citizenship and whether changes can be implemented before November.
Utah voters on election requirements: 66% support proof of citizenship at registration, according to the latest Deseret News-Hinckley Institute poll.
The Supreme Court’s mail-voting ruling and Lt. Gov. Deidre Henderson’s response that it currently has no effect on Utah.
New polling: Gov. Spencer Cox, Sen. Mike Lee and Sen. John Curtis all in negative territory, with independents moving away from Cox.
Utah politics and policy
The Stratos AI data-center backlash, calls to reform MIDA, and questions over water, heat, noise and public accountability.
Utah Senate President Stuart Adams’ demand for retractions and threats of lawsuits.
Inflation, high gas prices and high beef prices.
Trump’s imported-beef plan—and pushback from Utah ranchers and members of Utah’s congressional delegation.
Tyson’s Eagle Mountain closure: 700 jobs lost after five years, despite a 10-year agreement and major tax incentives.
Utah’s $212 million Meta settlement and how the state should spend it on youth mental-health concerns.
If time: Gov. Cox’s new book, Off Ramp, out Sept. 8.
Coming up
Friday, Sept. 4: Rep. Doug Fiefia
Friday, Sept. 11: Rep. Cal Roberts Take 2 Podcast: Utah's wildfire crisis, Supreme Court decisions, and what's next in Utah politics
07/02/2026 | 51 mins.Host: Heidi Hatch
Guests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group & Utah House Speaker Mike Schultz
Utah Legislative Primary Races
Lessons Learned, who will lead the Utah Senate
Wildfire Crisis in Utah
Fallen Firefighters
Three wildland firefighters killed on the Utah-Colorado border
Two additional firefighters seriously injured
Cottonwood Fire
More than 100 condos and 30 cabins destroyed at Eagle Point Resort
Damage assessment continues
Wildland Firefighter Employment Protections
Should part-time wildland firefighters have job protection when called to active duty?
Forest Service Staffing Cuts
Are management and staffing cuts contributing to current wildfire challenges?
Headquarters relocation from Washington, D.C., to Salt Lake City
Supreme Court Decisions
Transgender Sports
Supreme Court upheld state laws banning transgender students from participating on girls sports teams
6-3 decision
Mail Ballots
Supreme Court ruled 5-4 that states may count mail ballots received after Election Day if they were postmarked by Election Day
More than a dozen states currently follow this practice
Birthright Citizenship
Supreme Court struck down President Trump's executive order seeking to end birthright citizenship
6-3 decision in Trump v. Barbara
Charlie Kirk Murder Case
Court Hearing Next Week
Accused killer Tyler Robinson back in court
Charlie Kirk's parents, widow Erika and others expected to attend
Tight courtroom security, no electronics allowed
Utah Supreme Court expected to decide before Monday whether Robinson's roommate/romantic partner must testify
Happy Birthday America – 250 years’ worth celebrating
We will be taking a July summer break. Thanks for listening!- Hosts:
Heidi Hatch
Maura Carabello, Exoro Group
Rob Axson, Utah GOP Chair (joining from Washington, D.C.)
Fire danger across Utah
Statewide fireworks restrictions and the new law allowing cities to designate safe discharge zones.
The Cottonwood Fire in Beaver County, now expected to become the costliest wildfire in Utah history.
Gov. Spencer Cox's comments on the destruction.
Looking ahead to the dangerous fire weather forecast.
Primary election shakeup
Several high-profile incumbents lost Tuesday's primary:
Senate President Stuart Adams
Sen. Dan McCay
Rep. Trevor Lee
Two Box Elder County commissioners
What do these results say about the direction of Utah Republican politics?
Congressional races
Democrats
Ben McAdams wins the Democratic nomination in Congressional District 1.
What does his victory say about the party moving away from convention-selected candidates?
Republicans
Rep. Blake Moore wins his primary over Karianne Lisonbee.
Does Lisonbee have a political future after this race?
Rep. Celeste Maloy defeats Phil Lyman.
Is this the end of Lyman's statewide political influence?
Voting issues
Some Democratic voters reported not receiving ballots.
Was this simply a learning curve with the first Democratic congressional primary conducted this way, or is there more to examine?
Supreme Court rulings
Major decisions released this week.
Which rulings have the biggest impact on Utah and national politics?
SAVE Act
President Trump's push for the SAVE Act.
Why is the administration making a full-court press now?
What are the political and legal implications?
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