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  • The $30M Playbook Part 2: How to Build an Autonomous Business with 3 People and AI Agents
    Part 2: Building Autonomous Businesses with AI Agents (Jonathan Moss Interview)Podcast Description Jonathan Moss welcomes Amos Bar Joseph, co-founder and CEO of Swan AI (getswan.ai), for a strategic discussion on the autonomous business model that's challenging Silicon Valley's traditional playbook. Having built and sold multiple startups, Amos explains why he's now focused on reaching $30M ARR with just three founders using AI agents. This episode covers the philosophical framework behind autonomous businesses, detailed breakdowns of Swan's agentic technology, and exclusive announcements about new tools that democratize access to AI-powered go-to-market strategies. 99% of companies fail chasing funding rounds Focus shifts from value creation to "valuation inflation" Building for investors rather than customers "These types of companies, they don't pursue value creation, but what they are actually focused is valuation inflation." "It's not the fault of the founders I've been there myself. It's just that it's kinda like the natural tendency of building for the next round all the time." Website: getswan.ai LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amos-bar-joseph/
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  • The $30M Playbook Part 1: How to Build an Autonomous Business with 3 People and AI Agents
    Part 1: The Autonomous Business Revolution with Amos Bar Joseph (Coach K Interview)Podcast Description Join Coach K (Jonathan Kvarfordt) for an energetic conversation with his friend Amos Bar Joseph, CEO of Swan AI (getswan.ai), who's rewriting the startup playbook by building to $30M ARR with just three founders and AI agents. After burning out on the traditional "unicorn playbook" through two successful exits, Amos shares his revolutionary approach to scaling with intelligence instead of headcount. This episode features a deep dive into Swan's actual AI agent ecosystem, controversial takes on popular GTM tools, and a practical framework for implementing AI in any business. Companies focus on "valuation inflation" over value creation The VC route makes founders forget customers and employees Building on "sick foundations" by scaling before product-market fit "I'm sick of the unicorn playbook... It hasn't changed for the last 15 years. It's outdated, it's not relevant for 2025." "They forget about their customers. They forget about their employees, they forget about how to build a company." AI will create MORE jobs, not fewer Hundreds of thousands of new autonomous businesses will emerge SMBs can now compete at enterprise scale "A three person team could achieve what took a 1000 team before that." Website: getswan.ai Connect: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amos-bar-joseph/
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  • Why 90% of Sales AI Tools Fail (and the 3-Step Fix That Changed Everything)
    www.aibusinessnetwork.ai www.gtmaiacademy.com www.gtmaipodcast.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/tasleem1/ Tas Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7245478675247173632/?displayConfirmation=true The Experiment That Exposed Everything When Tas Hirani, a veteran enablement leader with a Six Sigma background from GE, noticed her sales teams struggling despite having access to cutting-edge AI tools, she did something radical. She didn't run another survey or schedule more training sessions. Instead, she went undercover as a sales rep while maintaining her enablement role. What she discovered explains why companies are spending millions on AI tools that collect dust while reps continue drowning in admin work. The Brutal Truth About Sales AI Adoption "Everyone's got LinkedIn, LinkedIn Navigator, ChatGPT, Perplexity... but when I actually sat in the seat and tried to use these tools the way reps do, it was Pandora's box," Hirani reveals. The problem isn't the technology—it's how we're implementing it. Here's why 90% of sales AI tools fail: The "Dead Weight" Problem: Traditional tech forced salespeople to adapt their workflow to the tool. As Hirani puts it, "Technology was like dead weight that people were hauling up the hill... trying to get to this sale, but I can't get there because I have to go to 12 different places." The Generic Solution Trap: Companies throw in Microsoft Copilot or ChatGPT behind a firewall and declare themselves "AI-enabled." Hirani calls this "a recipe for failure" because it ignores business-specific context. The IT Power Play: When IT departments impose generic AI solutions because they have "those two magic letters," adoption inevitably fails. The tools that work are chosen by the business teams who actually use them. The Reality Check That Changed Everything During her time in the sales trenches, Hirani discovered something shocking. When she shared AI tools that worked brilliantly for her, the reactions from her team were mixed: "Some reps said, 'I don't have any confidence in AI. It doesn't sound like me. My prospect is gonna know that it's not me if I haven't felt the pain and written that email myself.'" This revelation led to a fundamental insight: Every rep is at a different point in their AI adoption journey, and one-size-fits-all solutions are doomed to fail. Visual learners needed completely different tools than text-based processors New reps loved real-time coaching popups; veterans found them distracting Some thrived with vanilla ChatGPT; others needed specialized solutions
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  • Deep Dive into Modern Sales Architecture Powered by AI
    www.aibusinessnetwork.ai www.gtmaiacademy.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-martinis/ https://www.b2bcatalyst.com/ Breaking Down GTM Engineering with Scott Martinez: A Game-Changing Conversation Holy smokes, folks. I just had one of those conversations that makes you want to completely rebuild your entire go-to-market motion. Scott Martinez from B2B Catalyst dropped some absolute truth bombs that I'm still processing. Let me be straight with you - I've been in sales and enablement for years, and Scott's approach to GTM engineering is unlike anything I've seen. This isn't your typical "send more emails" or "hire more SDRs" playbook. This is surgical precision applied to revenue generation. Scott shared a story that stopped me in my tracks. He generated 700 MQLs across three companies - 180 for one, 90 for another, and 399 for the third. Guess how much converted to revenue? Zero. Zilch. Nada. Why? Because generating leads isn't the same as generating revenue. And that's where most of us get it wrong. Here's what blew my mind: While most RevOps teams are doing territory planning based on industry and company size, Scott's data shows that proper account qualification criteria can result in 2-5x higher close rates. Think about that. If you're targeting accounts outside your true ICP, you're operating at 50-80% reduced effectiveness. You could make 100 calls into qualified accounts and get 5x better results than the same effort into unqualified accounts. Interview your top 3 sales reps with a "Perfect Opportunity Worksheet" Ask them: "When you're researching the best prospect ever, what do you expect to see?" Look for specific signals: Scott's approach is brilliant here. Instead of trying to automate everything at once, he asks: "What's the one constraint that, if fixed, would unblock everything else?" Real example: An SDR team spending 2 hours per day on account qualification. Instead of replacing them with AI, Scott's team: Identified 13 discrete website signals Built a scoring rubric Automated the qualification process Ran 80% of their CRM through it Found all the whitespace in their market Result? SDRs got 2 hours back per day, marketing got proper targeting, and AEs could finally hit self-sourcing targets. Here's the exact math Scott uses (and you should too): To hit $10M ARR: Need: 180 new customers at $50K each At 25% close rate = 720 opportunities needed At 20% meeting-to-opp rate = 3,600 meetings needed At 20% conversation-to-meeting rate = 18,000 conversations needed At 20% contact-to-conversation rate = 90,000 dials/emails needed With 5 contacts per account = 18,000 accounts needed But here's the kicker - every 10% of unqualified accounts in this mix torpedoes your downstream metrics. Scott's take on AI is refreshingly practical: "AI on its own is useless. You have to target it, constrain it, focus it, and give it examples to mimic and scale." His process: Understand the manual process that works Document exactly how your best people do it Use AI to scale that proven process Never try to AI your way around a broken process Scott doesn't worship tools, but he's specific about what works: Phone data: You need 20%+ connect rates. If you're at 3%, your data sucks Email: Industry average is dying. Apollo worked a year ago, doesn't now Clay: Great for enrichment, but it's <50% of the actual work Dialer stack: Get your team having 3-5 conversations per hour Forget activity metrics. Here's what to track: Qualified account identification rate Contact-to-conversation rate (aim for 20% with good data) Conversation-to-meeting rate (10% minimum, fix messaging if lower) Meeting-to-opportunity rate Close rate by account qualification score
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  • Navigating the AI Revolution: AI Transformation Five Step Framework
    www.gtmaiacademy.com www.aibusinessnetwork.ai https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauren-schiavone/ https://www.wonderconsultingllc.com/ Navigating AI Transformation: A Conversation with Lauren Morgenstein Join host Jonathan Kvarfordt, AKA Coach K, in the latest episode of the G-T-M-A-I podcast, as he engages with Lauren Morganstein. Lauren shares her journey from a 16-year career at P&G to venturing into the dynamic field of AI. They discuss her decision to found Wonder Consulting and her passion for demystifying AI for non-technical leaders. The conversation delves into practical applications of AI in business, the importance of upskilling, and the transformational potential of AI within organizations. Lauren also outlines her five-step AI transformation framework and shares insights on the evolving landscape of AI native companies and the critical role of effective AI councils. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:47 Lauren's Background and Career Journey 01:20 Diving into AI and Its Impact 02:48 Upskilling and Learning AI 05:08 AI in Consumer Insights and Innovation 12:42 AI Councils and Organizational Transformation 17:33 The Future of Prompting in AI 17:58 Adoption and Tool Recommendations 18:27 Maximizing Approved Tools 20:28 Balancing AI and Human Roles 22:59 Trends in AI for 2025 23:46 AI Native Companies 27:15 Culture and Change Management in AI 30:43 Personal AI Tools and Final Thoughts
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Welcome to the GTM AI Podcast, your go-to independent resource to help GTM Professionals become AI Powered. We will cover strategies, new AI tools, AI news and trends, all for the purpose of helping you create real measurable business impact and help your life be easier. We do weekly episodes ranging from interviews to updates to strategy sessions. Sponsored by the AI Business Network www.aibusinessnetwork.ai and GTM AI Academy www.gtmaiacademy.com
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