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Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company

Jeremy Utley & Henrik Werdelin
Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company
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  • Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company

    Here’s How to Know If You’re Getting the Most Out of AI – with Bryan McCann, CTO of You.com

    2/04/2026 | 59 mins.
    In this episode, Bryan McCann joins Henrik and Jeremy to explore how search is evolving from simple queries into more conversational and agent-driven systems, and why prompting is likely a temporary skill. Bryan shares how his definition of productivity changed as an AI researcher, moving away from doing the work himself and toward designing plans and experiments that machines could run continuously.
    The conversation expands to leadership and organizational design. Bryan explains why helping others learn how to work with AI became his highest-leverage activity, and offers a simple rule of thumb: try to get AI to do the task first, and treat anything it can’t do as an interesting research problem. Henrik and Jeremy connect this to Bryan’s view that organizations may increasingly resemble neural networks, with information flowing more freely and decisions less tied to rigid hierarchies.

    Key Takeaways:
    Productivity can be measured by machine output, not human effort
    Bryan explains how “keeping the GPUs full” became his primary measure of productivity.
    Prompting is useful, but likely temporary
    The episode discusses why future systems may rely less on explicit prompts and more on inferred context.
    Try AI first, then learn from what it can’t do
    Tasks AI struggles with can reveal meaningful research opportunities.
    Leadership is about scaling others
    Bryan shares how his focus shifted from scaling himself to helping his team increase impact.
    Organizations may benefit from neural-network-like design
    Better information flow and fewer bottlenecks can improve decision-making.
    YOU: You.com
    Bryan's website: bryanmccann.org

    00:00 Intro: Keeping the GPUs Full
    00:22 Meet Bryan McCann: CTO & co-founder of You.com
    00:43 Why Search Is Breaking - and Why It Becomes a Skill
    01:41 From Search to Agents
    03:18 The Case for Proactive, Context-Aware AI
    04:30 We Don’t Need New Hardware - We Need Trust
    05:43 The Trust Problem of Always-On Listening
    07:57 Trust as the Real Bottleneck (Not AI Capability)
    09:52 Delivering Immediate Value to Earn Trust
    12:13 Business Models and Escaping the Attention Economy
    17:27 What “Agents” Really Mean - and Why the Term Will Fade
    20:37 Productivity, Parkinson’s Law, and Keeping the Machines Running
    23:52 Scaling Yourself vs. Scaling Your Team
    29:57 Building Culture: Automate, Throw Away, Rebuild
    35:46 Designing Organizations Like Neural Networks
    45:02 Recruiting for Initiative in an AI-Native Organization
    49:18 The debrief 

    📜 Read the transcript for this episode:


    For more prompts, tips, and AI tools. Check out our website: https://www.beyondtheprompt.ai/ or follow Jeremy or Henrik on Linkedin:
    Henrik: https://www.linkedin.com/in/werdelin
    Jeremy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyutley

    Show edited by Emma Cecilie Jensen.
  • Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company

    Building An Enterprise AI Innovation Lab: A Master Class with Humza Teherany, Chief Strategy Officer of Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment

    1/21/2026 | 58 mins.
    In this episode, Humza Teherany breaks down how he bridges deep technical fluency with strategic leadership at MLSE, home to the Raptors, Maple Leafs, and more. He shares how a vacation turned into an AI reawakening and how that hands-on immersion led to a fundamental shift in how his organization builds and experiments.
    Humza walks through MLSE’s build in a day practice, their internal AI platform, and why speed to prototype now unlocks more than just efficiency. It changes who gets to shape the future. He, Jeremy, and Henrik explore the limits of traditional enterprise AI rollouts and how to build spaces for superusers that enable company-wide transformation. The conversation covers how technical literacy impacts credibility, why idea execution is the new differentiator, and how Humza’s five-year-old inspired a bedtime story app powered by AI.
    Whether you're a CTO, a founder, or just figuring out where to start, Humza makes a compelling case. The best leaders don’t delegate this moment. They build.
    Key Takeaways
    Leaders should not delegate the AI moment
    Humza, Henrik, and Jeremy agree that this is a moment for leaders to be hands-on. The ones who build and explore the tools themselves are the ones unlocking real impact.
    Technical fluency builds credibility and better decisions
    Humza’s return to his technical roots has changed how he leads. Understanding how AI works helps leaders earn trust and make smarter, faster choices.
    Speed enables inclusion
    MLSE’s build in a day model allows more people to contribute ideas and see them turned into real prototypes. Moving fast isn’t just efficient - it changes who gets to participate.
    Empower your superusers first
    Rather than starting with enterprise-wide training, Humza focuses on enabling the small group already eager to build. That early energy helps drive broader culture change.
    MLSE: mlse.com
    LinkedIn: Humza Teherany - LinkedIn
    00:00 Intro: Humza Teherany and MLSE
    00:27 The Role of C-Suite Leaders in AI
    01:08 Reconnecting with Technical Skills
    02:08 Diving Deep into AI Tools
    03:03 The Importance of Hands-On Learning
    04:25 Progression from Consumer to Technical AI Tools
    07:28 Building a Business Case for AI
    10:03 Creating a Culture of Innovation
    14:00 Implementing AI in Business Operations
    21:05 Challenges and Strategies in AI Adoption
    26:17 Organizational Structure for AI Success
    32:02 The Importance of Reviewing and Planning Code
    33:01 The Future of Solo Developers and New Technologists
    34:58 Reimagining Company Structures with AI
    38:55 Key Skills for Future Technology Leaders
    41:19 Personal AI Experiments and Innovations
    46:52 Encouraging Creativity in Children with AI
    49:11 The Debrief
    📜 Read the transcript for this episode: building-an-enterprise-ai-innovation-lab-a-master-class-with-humza-teherany-chief-strategy-officer-of-maple-leaf-sports-and-entertainment/transcript


    For more prompts, tips, and AI tools. Check out our website: https://www.beyondtheprompt.ai/ or follow Jeremy or Henrik on Linkedin:
    Henrik: https://www.linkedin.com/in/werdelin
    Jeremy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyutley

    Show edited by Emma Cecilie Jensen.
  • Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company

    Teaser: What We Learned From Humza Teherany About Building an AI Innovation Lab

    1/21/2026 | 10 mins.
    In this teaser, Henrik and Jeremy debrief their conversation with Humza Teherany, Chief Strategy and Innovation Officer at MLSE. They reflect on how Humza rebuilt his technical fluency, why he believes leaders can't delegate this moment, and what it actually looks like to launch an internal AI lab that ships in 24 hours. Full episode out next week.
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    For more prompts, tips, and AI tools. Check out our website: https://www.beyondtheprompt.ai/ or follow Jeremy or Henrik on Linkedin:
    Henrik: https://www.linkedin.com/in/werdelin
    Jeremy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyutley

    Show edited by Emma Cecilie Jensen.
  • Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company

    Why AI Gets People Wrong: The Real Source of Insight with Anthropologist Mikkel B. Rasmussen

    1/06/2026 | 56 mins.
    Mikkel B. Rasmussen brings a rare lens to the AI conversation. As an applied anthropologist, he has spent decades helping companies like LEGO uncover what is really going on beneath the surface.
    In this episode, he shares how deep insight often begins with being wrong, why surprise is the clearest sign you have found something meaningful, and how the pain of not knowing is essential to breakthrough thinking. He also explains how AI is transforming his own research, from pattern recognition to video ethnography, and introduces a provocative idea: Anthropology Without Anthropologists.
    Jeremy and Henrik reflect on what it means to teach AI how to surprise us, how synthetic data might reshape experimentation, and why better insights begin with better questions.
    Key Takeaways
    Insight starts with being wrong
    Mikkel defines insight as the gap between how we think the world works and how it actually is. Anthropology helps uncover these mismatches, and that is where real breakthroughs begin.
    Pain is part of the process
    Mikkel and Jeremy both reflect on the emotional struggle that precedes insight. The doubt, sleepless nights, and questioning whether the work will ever come together is not failure. It is a necessary stage of discovery.
    Surprise is a signal
    The moment of surprise, when a new pattern emerges or an assumption is shattered, is at the core of applied anthropology. For Mikkel, it is the clearest sign that you have found something real.
    AI can accelerate experimentation
    Mikkel shares how AI is already helping his team analyze patterns, run faster experiments, and even conduct interviews that outperform humans in some cases. The goal is not to replace people but to push the limits of what is possible.
    HARL: humanactivitylab.com
    00:00 Intro: Why This Conversation Matters
    00:25 Meet Mikkel: Founder of Human Activity Laboratory
    01:14 Understanding Anthropology and AI
    03:32 Applied Anthropology: Tools and Techniques
    04:56 The Role of Narratives in AI
    07:06 The Importance of Sensory and Social Dimensions
    13:06 Case Study: LEGO and the Anthropology of Play
    21:07 The Role of Surprise in Anthropology
    27:51 AI and Human Synergy
    31:26 Exploring AI's Limitations and Potential
    32:46 Anthropology Without Anthropologists
    34:17 AI's Role in Generating Insights
    37:23 Human Bias in AI-Generated Ideas
    42:05 Synthetic Data and Its Applications
    47:34 The Future of AI in Anthropology
    49:25 The Debrief
    📜 Read the transcript for this episode: why-ai-gets-people-wrong-the-real-source-of-insight-with-anthropologist-mikkel-b-rasmussen/transcript


    For more prompts, tips, and AI tools. Check out our website: https://www.beyondtheprompt.ai/ or follow Jeremy or Henrik on Linkedin:
    Henrik: https://www.linkedin.com/in/werdelin
    Jeremy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyutley

    Show edited by Emma Cecilie Jensen.
  • Beyond The Prompt - How to use AI in your company

    Teaser: What We Learned From Anthropologist Mikkel B. Rasmussen About Why AI Gets People Wrong

    1/06/2026 | 8 mins.
    In this teaser, Jeremy and Henrik debrief their conversation with Mikkel B. Rasmussen, founder of the Human Activity Laboratory. They expected a conversation about AI’s limitations, but got a rethinking of insight itself. They explore Mikkel’s definition of insight as the gap between how we think the world is and how it actually is, why surprise is a critical signal, and how pain often precedes clarity. They also touch on Mikkel’s experiments with AI interviewers that sometimes outperform human researchers, and why this episode challenged how they think about narrative, understanding, and the role of AI. 
    Full episode LIVE NOW.


    For more prompts, tips, and AI tools. Check out our website: https://www.beyondtheprompt.ai/ or follow Jeremy or Henrik on Linkedin:
    Henrik: https://www.linkedin.com/in/werdelin
    Jeremy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyutley

    Show edited by Emma Cecilie Jensen.

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Beyond the Prompt dives deep into the world of AI and its expanding impact on business and daily work. Hosted by Jeremy Utley of Stanford's d.school, alongside Henrik Werdelin, an entrepreneur known for starting BarkBox, prehype and other startups, each episode features conversations with innovators and leaders to uncover pragmatic stories of how organizations leverage AI to accelerate success. Learn creative strategies and actionable tactics you can apply right away as AI capabilities advance exponentially.
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