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Emily Dickinson and Taylor Swift |"Karma," "evermore" & Why They're Literary Twins
08/19/2026 | 49 mins.“And I was catching my breath, barefoot in the wildest winter…” What happens when a 21st-century American poet meets a 19th-century one? In this Show & Tell episode, we explore the literary lineage between Taylor Swift and Emily Dickinson. Each of us brings a favorite Dickinson poem paired with a Swift song that touch on shared motifs such as separation, isolation, and hope. Tune in to find out which modern-day Taylor tracks sound like 19th-century poetry—and why we think Emily might vibe with Evermore.
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Mentioned in this episode:
The Letters of Emily Dickinson
The Complete Poems of Emily Dickinson
Hope is the Thing with Feathers
They Put Us Far Apart (Poem 474)
It Was Not Death, for I Stood Up (Poem 355)
Message in a Bottle – Taylor Swift
Evermore – Taylor Swift
Karma – Taylor Swift
Beauty and the Beast (live-action & Broadway versions)
Hamilton
Taylor Swift by the Book
Ancestry.com – Taylor & Emily’s distant cousin connection
Emily Dickinson Museum
Tikvah (Hebrew word for hope)
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Episode Highlights:
[6:26] “Message in a Bottle” + they put us far apart
[16:03] “Evermore” + It was not death, for I stood up
[29:31] “Karma” + Hope is a thing with feathers
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This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.- "Nice to meet you, where you been? I could show you incredible things..." In this deep dive episode, we dissect one of Taylor Swift's most iconic satirical masterpieces: "Blank Space" from 1989. Join us as we unpack the magic, madness, heaven, and sin of a song that dared to ask: what if we owned the narrative instead of fighting it?
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Mentioned in this episode:
A Midsummer Night's Dream, William Shakespeare
Pretty Little Liars (TV series)
The Office (TV series)
Wife of Bath from The Canterbury Tales, Geoffrey Chaucer
Episode Highlights:
[04:29] Diving into “Blank Space”
[10:15] “New money, suit and tie” - character analysis
[17:27] Analyzing the chorus
[24:31] Shakespearean references
[30:50] “Cherry lips, crystal skies” vs. “stolen kisses, pretty lies”
[37:25] "I get drunk on jealousy"
[40:44] Bridge analysis: "Boys only want love if it's torture"
[46:59] Getting into the purpose of “Blank Space”
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Contact us at aptaylorswift@gmail.com "Don’t Leave Me Like This": Taylor Swift Meets Pride and Prejudice | I’m Only Me When I’m With You, Haunted, and Lavender Haze | AP Taylor Swift
08/05/2026 | 1h"I'm only me when I'm with you" This week on AP Taylor Swift, we're diving into an AP Lit favorite: Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice (1813). We trace Elizabeth and Jane Bennet's unshakeable sisterhood through "I'm Only Me When I'm With You," relive Darcy's catastrophically bad proposal through "Haunted," and land on "Lavender Haze" for a look at gossip, reputation, and what it means to fall in love in a world where marriage is a woman's only real option. Along the way: the literary canon, Regency courtship logistics, Bridgerton comparisons, and a debate about whether Elizabeth would be a Hinge girl.
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Songs Discussed
"I'm Only Me When I'm With You"
Taylor Swift, Track 12 (2006)
Written by: Taylor Swift, Robert Ellis Orrall, Angelo Petraglia
"Haunted"
Speak Now (2010) / Speak Now (Taylor's Version) (2023)
Written by: Taylor Swift
"Lavender Haze"
Midnights, Track 1 (2022)
Written by: Taylor Swift, Jack Antonoff, Jahaan Sweet, Mark "Sounwave" Spears, Sam Dew, Zoë Kravitz
Episode Highlights
[01:01] Setting the scene: Pride and Prejudice, published 1813, and "a truth universally acknowledged"
[06:48] "I'm Only Me When I'm With You" — Jenn's pick and the case for Jane and Elizabeth as the book's real love story
[30:36] "Haunted" — Maansi's pick, staged around the infamous first proposal
[48:24] "Lavender Haze" — Jodi's pick, tied to the novel's opening line about marriage
Mentioned in this episode:
Books
Pride and Prejudice, Jane Austen — Bookshop.org
Emma, Jane Austen — Bookshop.org
The Tenant of Wildfell Hall, Anne Brontë — Bookshop.org
Pride & Prejudice (2005) — JustWatch
Bridgerton — JustWatch
& Juliet (musical) — Official site
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This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.- "It's nice to believe, when you think Tim McGraw." This week on AP Taylor Swift, we're going line-by-line through Taylor Swift's "Tim McGraw" (debut, 2006) — her very first single. We trace a Chevy truck down some back roads, argue about whether "that's a lie" means something different by the end of the song than it did at the beginning, float (and mostly reject) a death theory, and land on why a 16-year-old writing about one summer might be one of the most quietly ambitious songwriting choices of her career.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Anita de Monte Laughs Last, Xóchitl González — https://bookshop.org/p/books/anita-de-monte-laughs-last-xochitl-gonzalez/19987600
The Last Song (2010) — https://reelgood.com/movie/the-last-song-2010
Hannah Montana: The Movie (2009) — https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/hannah-montana-the-movie
To All the Boys I've Loved Before — https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/to-all-the-boys-ive-loved-before
The Summer I Turned Pretty — https://www.justwatch.com/us/tv-show/the-summer-i-turned-pretty
Dirty Dancing (1987) — https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/danse-lascive
Grease (1978) — https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/grease
Episode Highlights:
[03:38] "He said the way my blue eyes shined put those Georgia stars to shame that night. I said, that's a lie."
[05:43] "Just a boy in a Chevy truck"
[08:01] "I was right there beside him all summer long"
[10:46] "When you think Tim McGraw, I hope you think my favorite song"
[11:35] "When you think happiness, I hope you think that little black dress"
[15:58] "September saw a month of tears"
[19:25] "In a box beneath my bed is a letter that you've never read from three summers back"
[33:55] Purpose of the song
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This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z. - “Why you gotta be so mean?” In this week’s episode of AP Taylor Swift, we put “Mean” (Speak Now), “nothing new” (Red, Taylor’s Version), and “mirrorball” (folklore) under the lens of feminist literary theory. We talk about the male gaze, the ingenue, gendered violence imagery, the punishment of “unlikeable” women, and why a song written over a decade ago can still feel like it was written yesterday.
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Mentioned in this episode
Middlemarch, George Eliot
Unlikeable Female Characters: The Women Pop Culture Wants You to Hate, Anna Bogutskaya
The Robber Bride, Margaret Atwood
Mean Girls (2004)
Grease (1978)
It’s a Man’s (Celluloid) World, Center for the Study of Women in Television & Film, San Diego State University
Episode Highlights
[00:23] Welcome to the Show & Tell — Women’s History Month and a primer on feminist literary theory
[04:59] “Mean” (Speak Now) — gendered weapon imagery and “you, with your words like knives and swords”
[20:37] “nothing new” (Red, Taylor’s Version) — false empowerment and “girls go out and have your fun”
[37:32] “mirrorball” (folklore) — adapting yourself for others’ approval
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This podcast is neither related to nor endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own. Intro music produced by Scott Zadig aka Scotty Z.
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About AP Taylor Swift
Taylor Swift is the Shakespeare of our time. And we can prove it.
AP Taylor Swift is a weekly literary analysis podcast for Swifties who crave smart, funny, and approachable conversations about Taylor's lyrics. Hosts Maansi Dommeti, Jenn Holcomb, and Jodi Innerfield are three longtime Swifties whose different lives mean they never hear a song the same way. Our Show & Tell episodes connect a theme or rhetorical device to songs across her catalog (think Ecocriticism to Hilary Duff); and our Deep Dive episodes go line-by-line through one song to discover what it's really about. Whether you've got the Eras Tour setlist memorized, or you just know 'Shake It Off,’ class is in session.
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