The Beach Boys’ story gets more tangled by the minute
“All bands are sad stories,” Peter Doggett points out, but is there a more woven, moving and, at times, farcical tale than that of the Beach Boys? It gives the sound of them a greater melancholy and resonance with every passing year. As his fascinating new book Surf’s Up reveals, nothing that happened is straightforward and very little as simple as it sounds. We talk here about … … Dennis Wilson and the Beach Boys’ creation myth … what started their revival … why they’d never have survived beyond 1962 without Mike Love … was Derek Taylor’s ‘Brian is a genius’ campaign partly to explain his procrastination and eccentricity? … the chaos of SMiLE and the long shadow of the Beatles … Murry Wilson’s “superstar” ambitions and original plan for the group … the days when they looked like Old Testament prophets or hippies from Central Casting … Dennis and Manson, Carl v the draft, Mike Love’s arrest … scandals that would have sunk them in the days of social media … the “Brian as victim trope” and his extraordinary appearance on “The Tension Behind the Music” … when Bart Simpson turned them down … can anyone name a good Beach Boys album cover? … and the band’s future, a controlled touring franchise with no original members Order Peter Doggett’s ‘Surf’s Up: Brian Wilson & the Beach Boys’ here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Surfs-Up-Brian-Wilson-Beach/dp/1917923341Help us to keep The Longest Conversation In Rock going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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What makes a rock star a ‘ledge’ & the daft rituals of the ‘70s disco
Five decades of rock and roll with none of the names redacted. In the despatches this week … … Kevin Rowland? Adam Ant? Toyah? Morrissey? Which Smash Hits cover stars are now ‘legends’? … a classic encounter with Van Morrison down a Bristol alley … the boy who mailed dead rodents and Boomtown Rats singles to radio stations became Pope Leo XIV! … 25 recent big-name Hollywood films all flopped. Are robots the new movie stars?… was Sticky Fingers the last Stones album with songs? … best nights out for a tenner … RIP Gilson Lavis and Donna Godchaux ... the daft rituals of the ’70s ‘slow dance’ … when Percy Sledge was a hospital porter … “Run for your life, it’s Eater!” … Tom Waits’ on-brand luggage, Boo Hewerdine and birthday guest Mike Sketch on the joy of gigs on your own (and in a scout hut in Staveley).Help us to keep The Longest Conversation In Rock going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Rock’s fascination with the Third Reich exposed by Daniel Rachel
Musicians have flirted with Nazi imagery since the ‘60s, lampooning its theatre, absorbing its style, exploiting its shock value, even promoting its ideology. Daniel Rachel’s new book ‘This Ain’t Rock ‘N’ Roll’ points up extraordinary examples – “from Tommy Steele to Kanye West” - and how our reaction intensified over the years. Which leads us to … … parallels between stadium rock and the Nuremberg rallies … hearing the Sex Pistols’ Belsen Was A Gas and seeing their Nazi insignia at the age of 12 … David Bowie’s German memorabilia and belief that “Hitler was the first rock and roll superstar” – and the doctored photo of his “Nazi salute” at Victoria Station … Bernie Rhodes versus Malcolm McLaren on the “reclaiming of the swastika” … the lyrics and imagery of the Siouxsie & the Banshees … Viv Stanshall and Keith Moon’s atrocious visit to Golders Green ... the German invention of the tape machine that started the record business … “I’m not the Simon Wiesenthal of rock and roll!” … Joy Division, New Order, K-Pop, Brian Jones and his SS uniform, Ron Asheton of the Stooges, John Lennon, Lemmy, Blue Oyster Cult, “Adolf Hitler on vibes”… “Rock and Roll has a duty to recognise its downfalls”. Order ‘This Ain’t Rock ‘N’ Roll: Pop Music, the Swastika and the Third Reich’ here: https://www.waterstones.com/book/this-aint-rock-n-roll/daniel-rachel/9781399635721Help us to keep The Longest Conversation In Rock going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Paul Weller – ‘gloriously chippy’ – as seen by friends, family, fans and collaborators
Dan Jennings’ podcast ‘Desperately Seeking Paul’ is so successful he’s used 250 of the interviews in a best-selling oral history. ‘Dancing Through The Fire’ has voices from right across the spectrum – family members, band members, writers, pluggers, label bosses, collaborators and famous fans. He talks to us here about … … Weller’s real name and when he changed it by deed poll … a theory about bands formed in towns not cities … the handbrake turn from the Jam to the Style Council – one minute the intense young man cutting out his press clippings, the next espadrilles, singing in French and “nibbling Mick’s ear on the River Cam” … Weller’s “very English” need to be heard and respected - but not loved … the role of his manager father in the Jam’s success, the days when the family phone number was in the Fan Club ads ... how Noel Gallagher engineered a Bono/Weller photo op … Paul’s glorious chippiness – Band Aid, the pop press, “offering a journalist out for a fight in Victoria Park” ... John and Paul Weller and echoes of Only Fools And Horses … when the Jam played ice rinks and swimming pools … the cab-driver gossip grapevine … cutting 1.5 million words to 250,000 and the book’s biggest revelations and surprises. Order a copy of Dancing Through The Fire here: https://geni.us/dancingthroughthefireHelp us to keep The Longest Conversation In Rock going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Did rave kill dancing in couples? Stars seen in strange places?
Marking our dance card at the rock and roll hop this week you’ll find … … And Then He Kissed Me, I Saw Her Standing There, Springsteen’s All The Way Home: songs about the theatre of dancing … is there a more influential sleeve than Patti Smith’s Horses? … did Dylan invent the box-set? … records you wish you liked … when the Beach Boys were so off the boil they covered Dylan and three by the Beatles … when did we stop dancing in couples? … Jagger queueing for a sandwich, Beckham in a farm shop, Lady Di in Holland Park and other stars we’ve spotted … Brown Sugar, All Right Now and the daft etiquette of the late ‘60s dancefloor … Like A Virgin: 42-year-old hears Stairway To Heaven for the first time! … “Are you dancin’? Are you askin’? I’m askin’! I’m dancin’! … plus George Faith, train songs, records you’ve not played for years, the anthem Zohran Mamdani was stopped from using, and birthday guest Giles Fraser on stars in unusual places.Help us to keep The Longest Conversation In Rock going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Mark Ellen and David Hepworth have been talking about and writing about music together and individually for a collective eighty years in magazines like Smash Hits, Mojo and The Word and on radio and TV programmes like "Rock On", "Whistle Test" and VH-1.Over thirteen years ago, when working on the late magazine The Word, they began producing podcasts. Some listeners have been kind enough to say these have been very special to them. When the magazine folded in 2012 they kept the spirit of those podcasts alive in regular Word In Your Ear evenings in which they spoke to musicians and authors in front of an audience. Over these years they've produced hundreds of hours of material. As of the Current Unpleasantness of 2020, they've produced yet hundreds of hours more with a little help from guests kind enough to digitally show them around their attics such as Danny Baker, Andy Partridge, Sir Tim Rice and Mark Lewisohn. For the full span of the Word In Your Ear world, visit wiyelondon.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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