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- Featuring: Mike Levy, Josh Ross, Lisa Charlebois, and Logan Jones-Wilkins
We answer your questions, debate the real-world value of aero bottle cages, and discuss why it makes sense to ride 500km for tacos.
We’ve had some major topics on the show the last few weeks, so this week we are taking a step back a little and answering some questions. We read every comment, and Logan Jones-Wilkins, Lisa Charlebois, and I will often jump in to respond. Mike Levy also reads them, but he actually brings the comments to the show so we can answer them out loud, so to speak.
Before we get to that, though, Levy starts with a question: Have you ever done a ride just for the sake of going somewhere dumb and unimportant? I’ve (Josh Ross) had this idea for years to ride from Los Angeles to the Mexican border for tacos, then back. It’s a 500km ride, and there’s no real point other than to ride a bike. Lael Wilcox once rode all the roads in Alaska for a similar reason. The whole crew is on this week, so we get to talk about our silly reasons for big rides. Let us know in the comments if you’ve ever done anything like that. Or, if you are like Logan and just ride for training, let us know that too.
We also have some news to talk about. Mostly, it comes down to Logan and me (Josh Ross) trying to convince Lisa and Mike that aero matters. For Logan, it’s all about aero gravel tires. He went very deep into the weeds in his article, and there's a good reason for that. Then it’s my turn to talk about the Enve Melee V2 and why it features aero bar tape and aero bottle cages. I also have a question that I am hoping you can help me answer.
To participate you'll have to jump to the [Velo website], but the question is: Would you choose a bike that is 1.6 watts more aero or a bike that is 1kg lighter?
Give me the Factor One. I will gladly take a 1kg weight penalty to gain 1.6 watts of aero efficiency.
Give me the Enve Melee. Saving 1kg is far more important to how I ride than 1.6 watts of aero efficiency.
I am choosing the Enve Melee purely based on aesthetics. Regardless of the aero advantage, I would not pick the Factor One because of how it looks.
I am choosing the Factor One. I want the 1.6 watts of free speed, and I actually prefer the aggressive aero styling over a traditional frame.
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00:00:00 - Intro & Vel Membership Code
00:02:08 - Bond Almond Ultra-Endurance Story
00:06:03 - Big Adventure Rides Discussion
00:13:19 - Arrow Gravel Tires from WTB
00:28:02 - Envy Melee V2 & Aerodynamic Handlebars
00:31:38 - Desert Ride Plans (Vegas to Death Valley)
00:41:34 - Q&A Segment Begins
00:42:46 - Front Derailleur Q&A & Comments
00:47:02 - Shimano vs Sram Brakes Debate
00:54:44 - Environmental Impact of Bike Materials
00:58:35 - Gravel Bike vs Mountain Bike Comparison
01:04:16 - Arrow vs Lightweight Bike Poll
01:13:38 - 32-Inch Wheel Comments & Discussion
01:21:16 - Suspension Fork Question
01:22:32 - Closing Remarks & Listener Poll
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ENVE's New Melee V2 Proves Hyperbikes Don’t Need to Look Insane - Featuring: Mike Levy, John Karrasch, and Jan Heine
Does a 32-inch wheel actually save watts, or is the testing methodology broken? We put Chung Method advocate John Karrasch and vocal critic Jan Heine in the same room to hash out the reality of rolling resistance.
This week, the usual crew steps aside to host a direct debate between two of the most outspoken voices in tire tech. John Karrasch (aka flexfitbyjohn) has generated massive datasets using the Chung Method, recently claiming that adopting 32-inch wheels can improve rolling resistance by up to 10%. On the other side, Rene Herse CEO Jan Heine—a pioneer of supple gravel tires—argues that wheel size ultimately doesn't matter for speed, pointing to historical roll-down tests and potential flaws in the Chung Method's precision.
After a long series of online blog posts and rebuttals, we brought them together to debate the physics, the testing protocols, and the future of gravel geometry face-to-face.
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Episode Timestamps
00:00:00 - Episode Intro & Guest Backgrounds
00:07:51 - Setting Up the 32-Inch Test Bikes
00:12:12 - Understanding the Chung Method for Tire Testing
00:16:18 - The Results: Do 32-Inch Wheels Roll Faster?
00:25:01 - Analyzing the Physics and Approach Angles
00:29:32 - Jan Heine's Counterargument: Wheel Size Doesn't Matter
00:36:58 - The Debate: Is the Chung Method Too Precise?
00:42:36 - Defending the Data and Real-World Variables
01:03:15 - Tire Design Priorities: Casing, Compound, and Pressure
01:17:11 - Tire Inserts and 36-Inch Wheel Possibilities
01:18:57 - 2030 Gravel Bike Predictions & Outro - Featuring: Mike Levy, Josh Ross, Lisa Charlebois, and Logan Jones-Wilkins
This week is easily one of our favorite recent episodes. All four Velo podcast hosts—Lisa Charlebois, Logan Jones-Wilkins, Mike Levy, and myself—are together in the virtual studio, and things get incredibly spicy. Expect a lot of passion and plenty of heated back-and-forth as we debate drivetrain futures, prototype spy shots, and the true definition of bikepacking.
We kick things off with listener questions. What starts as straightforward bike-buying advice quickly devolves into an argument over whether bikepacking is strictly a gravel activity and if camping is actually required. Josh also gets a chance to double down on why there is more to a bike than its spec sheet, specifically making the case for the Cannondale CAAD14.
Next, the conversation shifts to the newly spotted 13-speed Shimano Dura-Ace prototype. Because the system still relies on wires, the analysis quickly spirals into a broader SRAM vs. Campagnolo vs. Shimano showdown. The crew splits on what matters more: Shimano’s shifting precision or the glaring gaps in the rest of the brand's ecosystem.
Finally, the main event. Following a week of dueling op-eds, Logan and Josh bring the drivetrain battle to the microphone. Is 1x the inevitable future of road bikes, or will the slow-to-change road market ensure 2x remains superior? Listen to the arguments, read the articles on the site, and vote in the Velo poll to settle the score.
00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:52 - Listener questions: Bikepacking definitions and the Cannondale CAAD14
00:25:45 - Shimano 2x13 prototype and the great drivetrain brand war
00:53:41 - 1x vs. 2x on the road
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The Velo Drivetrain Poll: Is 1x or 2x the Future of Road? - Featuring: Mike Levy, Josh Ross, Lisa Charlebois, and Logan Jones-Wilkins
The Vuelta a España is in full swing, and this week the whole crew is in the house to break down the racing, new tech, and the latest industry chaos. Host Mike Levy is joined by Logan Jones-Wilkins, Lisa Charlebois, and Josh Ross to cover:
Vuelta a España Wackiness: The race has a reputation for the unexpected, and Logan and Lisa walk us through the organizers' questionable decision to hire a specific influencer. It seems nobody vetted the content before handing over the credentials, and the resulting shock was entirely predictable.
New Silca Tires: Logan gives the rundown on Silca's latest rubber and the inevitable claims of being the absolute best. Josh jumps in with intel directly from Josh Poertner, who he caught up with at the MADE show, to explain why the master of marginal gains chose to make a road tire that explicitly isn't aero-optimized.
The Best of the MADE Show: Josh spent the week shooting rolling art and picked his five favorites. We dive into his absolute top choice. No spoilers, but it features exposed cables, is built for ultra-endurance distances, and comes from fellow Oregon resident Rob English, who builds highly functional steel frames just down the road.
Van Rysel Gravel Reviews: Lisa drops two reviews covering the newly launched Van Rysel gravel line. We look at the adventure model that somehow maxes out with only a 50mm tire, and the crew gets into the weeds on why the "racy" version should probably be categorized as an all-road bike rather than a dedicated gravel racer.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
02:47 - Pogacito
14:32 - Silca tires
33:45 - MADE bike show
44:22 - Van Rysel EDR-G and RCR-G review - Featuring: Mike Levy, Josh Ross, and Lisa Charlebois
We air out our worst group ride habits, explain why the CAAD14's aluminum vibe beats cheap carbon, and tackle reader questions.
In this episode:
Toxic Cycling Traits: What's the thing you do on the bike that the group ride probably hates? Levy admits to half-wheeling, I talk too much, and Lisa... well, you'll have to let us know if her trait is actually a big deal.
The Cannondale CAAD14: I’ve had this bike all summer and absolutely love it. We discuss how a mistake by Cannondale made the bike better, why it's an incredible value, and why other reviewers are entirely missing the point. It doesn’t matter that there are cheaper, faster carbon bikes out there; the CAAD14 has an undeniable vibe.
Reader Q&A: With Logan Jones-Wilkins off at Leadville playing at high altitude, Lisa, Levy, and I take over the mic to answer your questions. Would Logan have suggested a Trek endurance bike instead of the gravel bike I recommended? We also touch on the massive new 32-inch Mosaic that launched this week.
We want to hear from you:
What is your toxic cycling trait? Also, have you ridden a CAAD bike and know exactly what I'm talking about, or am I off my rocker and people should just buy cheap carbon instead? Let us know!
Articles covered in this episode:
Review: Cannondale Made a Mistake and the CAAD14 Is Better for It
The New Trek Domane is Too Good to Call an Endurance Bike
The New Mosaic 32 Gravel Bike Fixes 32-Inch Gravel Bikes' Biggest Problem
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