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Two Librans

Roman Muradov, Tom Van Deusen
Two Librans
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    21. Y.F.O.C.

    03/06/2026 | 39 mins.
    In this episode we intended to cover the entirety of the Fall’s late-career banger “Y.F.O.C / Slippy Floor”. However, we went so off-course we can legally only say we covered the acronym. We’ll cover the eponymous “Slippy Floor” that somehow broke both of Mark E. Smith’s hips another time!
    The song is still an absolute banger, and we do go a bit into the background, but this episode is pretty much all side-quest missions.
    INCLUDING!
    Joe Rogaine
    Isn’t it nice when people you hate turn out to be bad?
    “It seemed like a good idea at the time!”
    The golden age of Boob Signing
    That’s album art, alright
    Amanda Palmer, Patreon Saint of the pod
    PS.
    Roman has a new graphic novel coming out from Fantagraphics. He’s doing an event for it at Desert Island in Brooklyn, and Tom will join and read some new comics.
    Guaranteed to be the event of the century.
    Tom has nothing to plug on his ‘stack, he’s still slowly working on his comic and his prints. Follow him on Instagram, why don’cha?


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit twolibrans.substack.com
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    20. Poisoned Fishes

    02/04/2026 | 1h 13 mins.
    Today we are covering several terrible songs by probably the worst ex-member (although the membership itself is disputed) of the Fall, E* Bl*n*y. We censored his name because he seems like the sort of person who googles himself, and I don’t think there’s a single kind word said about him in this whole episode. So, E*, if you stumbled upon this, just walk away. You have a life, a family, and a career. This is just a tiny podcast made by practitioners of the lowest artform in history.
    For everyone else, prepare to explore the wild world of this guy, as well as various forums and obscure musical review sites, where E*’s mates have gone out of their way to write something positive about his “skronking wonk bonk.”
    Note: This video is age-restricted for pretty graphic real-life war footage. It should also be taste-restricted for being utter shit.
    This is a bit of an unusual, ‘proper’ podcast, where we ‘do a journalism’ and go deep down a rabbit hole of mediocrity, instead of just endlessly derailing each other. It’s the NPR of Two Librans, except actually good.
    ALSO DISCUSSED
    Pascal Le Gras’s cover art
    Honking Skronk Rock recorded at a rented house in Holmfirth
    Another act from the Manchester Bl*n*y-verse
    Seriously, who in the hell IS this guy?!
    Mark hits a nadir
    Proto-Blaney from Fast Show
    Eric Clapton on his racist past: “I just thought it was funny”
    PS.
    Don’t forget to follow our personal stacks!
    Roman has a new graphic novel coming up on Feb.24th from Fantagraphics. And if you’re in London, you can get it signed on Feb.26th at Gosh Comics.
    Tom has nothing to plug on his ‘stack, he’s still slowly working on his comic and his prints. Follow him on Instagram, why don’cha?


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit twolibrans.substack.com
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    19. Das Vulture Ans Ein Nutter-Wain

    01/26/2026 | 1h
    We continue our European travelogue through our misadventures through Berlin and Leipzig last summer, and to accompany it we chose to discuss The Fall’s “Das Vulture Ans Ein Nutter-Wain”, a song whose title in German means absolutely nothing.
    We also discuss our old bugbear Patti Smith (the bleeper had to do overtime on this ep), Jordan Peterson’s all-meat diet, and Roman’s dangerously truthful Trumpberg-trolling on Instagram. Roman is pretty trashed on this one after a full day of irritating his audience online for no reason. Probably not his finest performance, but the man was dealing with Society, give him a break, damn it! Tom is drinking too, but that’s pretty par for the course.
    ALSO DISCUSSED
    Roman’s Epstein moment
    Jordan Peterson DESTROYS feminism by talking over woman
    Patti Smith’s N-word pass revisited
    Previously discussed in episode 11.
    Beyond Bath and Beyond
    Here she is confirming that she indeed is a n************. This might be the most irritating interview with anyone, ever. She uses N-word within the first minute (different times).
    IYKYK
    Other classics
    Tom interrupting Roman’s “meditating”
    Saul Steinberg getting a little flirty with the interviewer
    (different times)
    The Crumb bio
    that probably desperately needs promo from our very popular pod
    Roman’s cursed children’s book that brought him questionable new audiences
    Friend of the pod Anna Haifisch
    Friend and collaborator of the pod James Turek
    Men sleep on layers of bedsheets and think it’s fine
    Us
    PS.
    Don’t forget to follow our personal stacks!
    Roman has a new graphic novel coming up on Feb.24th from Fantagraphics. And if you’re in London, you can get it signed on Feb.26th at Gosh Comics.
    Tom has nothing to plug on his ‘stack, he’s still slowly working on his comic and his prints. Follow him on Instagram, why don’cha?


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit twolibrans.substack.com
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    18. Papal Visit Pt. 1

    01/07/2026 | 1h
    WARNING, INFANT!
    If you came to the pod looking for informed Fall commentary, this episode might not be the best place to start. It was ostensibly to be about the Fall-filler “classic” Papal Visit, but things got badly derailed when we discussed our European adventure together earlier this year. If you’re looking for a decent introduction to our somewhat-Fall-related banter, check out our recent recent ep on Bonkers in Phoenix. Otherwise, enjoy the travelogue!
    As a result, the least-deserving song in the Fall catalogue is a two-episode special, so stay tuned.
    LADZ ON TOUR
    We’re going over our first and last pub crawl pilgrimage to Manchester, and get derailed into discussing beastmodes, Leigh Bowery at the Tate, sensitive actor Pedro Pascal, early British indie games, bouncy castles and other worthy matters.
    ALSO DISCUSSED
    LS Lowry 360 experience
    VR Colonoscopy
    Leigh Bowery
    SHUT UP, LITTLE MAN!
    That egg gate
    Dizzy
    Roman’s scenic death march
    A bouncy castle near a church (church was on the left)
    The Mancunian Neckbeard
    The semi-official MES pub crawl
    Honey, we have Cuphead at home
    Bank Holidays in Manchester

    BEAST MODE

    PS.
    Don’t forget to follow our personal stacks.
    Roman is back with an exciting new Terrible Father adventure:
    Tom is still cranking away furiously on his comic, and you can read the last installment with its proper formatting.
    PPS.
    From one of the lavatories.



    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit twolibrans.substack.com
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    17. Jingle Bell Rock

    12/25/2025 | 52 mins.
    This episode we cover such festive topics as school shootings, Zohran’s waifu (who is definitely listening to the pod), and the prison industrial complex! Since this is the first episode we recorded and edited in a timely manner, we even talked about the newest Jeffrey Epstein “drop” and other topical matters—listen now, or feel irrelevant forever.
    JINGLE BELL ROCK
    Merry Mark E. Smith-smas, boys and girls, it’s the very first Two Librans Holiday Special! This episode’s Fall song is a bizarre cover of Jingle Bell Rock from a mid 90s John Peel session, with a wild story behind its improvised lyrics. We delve into the song’s history, and its many, many cover versions, almost all of them terrible.
    For comparison, here is the original. We’ll go over all the missing and added lyrics, green M&S bags, Brussels sprouts, old beef, and all.
    We’re a little drunk on this one. So sneak off from staid and awkward family time, lock yourself in the bathroom and spend some quality time with your real family.
    ALSO DISCUSSED
    The story behind the cover
    From the new audiobook version of Steve Hanley’s the Big Midweek.
    Roman’s exceedingly thoughtful gift for Tom
    Gets yours here
    NY post headlines
    Prison
    Just friends
    Kurt Vonnegut farting around
    River City Ransom US cover art
    PS.
    Don’t forget to follow our personal stacks.
    Tom is still cranking away furiously on his comic, and you can read the last installment with its proper formatting.
    Roman recently had a work trip and made some exciting drawings about office life. If you’re reading this before the end of the year, his annual subscription has a discount, and he’s pledging to put out more posts.


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit twolibrans.substack.com

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About Two Librans

A podcast about the Fall and Mark E.Smith, headed by two cartoonists of moderate renown, Roman Muradov and Tom Van Deusen. If you don't care about the Fall, most of the show is funny digressions and exemplary banter on subjects as varied as Russian Wheel of Fortune, Tom Morello's Dangerous Truths, indie comics, Slack bullying, chocolate fountains, and so much more. twolibrans.substack.com
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