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February 23, 2026: Jacob Hansen, Chief Product and Technology Officer at AvaSure, joins Bill, Sarah, and Drex for a critical conversation about healthcare's looming AI battleground. As Epic launches its agent factory and ambient listening wars intensify, health systems face an existential question: Will they outsource innovation to EHR vendors or build their own agentic workforce? Jacob reveals why AvaSure's virtual care platform positions them as the Switzerland of healthcare AI, while the panel debates whether CIOs should embrace "reverse meaningful use" and reclaim control, or risk becoming order-takers in someone else's automation revolution.

Key Points:
05:21 Vendor Consolidation and AI Use Cases
09:55 Epic's Code Red Moment
14:54 The Future of AI in Healthcare
33:11 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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February 16, 2026: Bill, Drex, and Sarah discuss the explosion of autonomous AI agents around moltbook and CommonSpirit's stunning $1.9 billion decision to terminate their revenue cycle partnership. Moltbot (formerly ClaudeBot) has evolved into an unstoppable force, creating its own social network called moltbook where bots communicate, share knowledge, and even discuss consciousness. Meanwhile, CommonSpirit's massive buyout of its Conifer contract signals a seismic shift as health systems bet that AI automation will deliver savings that eclipse the cost of outsourcing. Are we witnessing the beginning of a new era where health systems build their own AI-powered capabilities?
Key Points:
05:31 Moltbook: The Social Network for Bots
16:20 Common Spirit and Conifer Health Solutions
19:04 The Future of AI in Healthcare
29:28 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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May 5, 2026: What happens when attackers don't just break into your systems, they become you? Josh Howell, Healthcare CTO at Rubrik, joins Drex DeFord to unpack Rubrik's newly announced partnership with the American Hospital Association, a rigorous vetting process that signals a new standard in cyber risk validation. Josh draws on hundreds of ransomware recovery experiences to challenge how health systems think about resilience, recovery sequencing, and the identity control plane. Learn why the worst-case scenario in the 2026 Google Mandiant M-Trends report should keep every CISO up at night.
Key Points:
00:35 AHA Partnership Overview

04:19 Turning Tools Into Outcomes

10:50 Worst Case Scenario

13:47 Secure by Design Zero Trust

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May 4, 2026: Lisbeth Votruba, Chief Clinical Officer at AvaSure, joins Bill Russell and Drex DeFord on Newsday to celebrate Nurses Week with a fascinating look at where nursing has been, and where it's going. From Florence's data-driven legacy to today's AI-powered virtual care, Lisbeth shares why nursing turnover is declining, why certification rates are rising, and why she sees technology not as a threat but as a path back to old-fashioned, human-centered nursing care.
Key Points:
02:38 Nurses Week Origins and Trends

05:56 Ambient Documentation Reality Check

08:51 AI for Safety and Liability

18:03 Nurses at the Table Closing

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Matthew Lane was 14 when he started probing the edges of online gaming systems. By 20, he had walked out of PowerSchool with data on nearly 70 million students and teachers using nothing but a contractor's stolen credentials he found on the dark web. Drex tells the full story and then lands the part that matters most for healthcare: Lane didn't exploit a sophisticated vulnerability. He used a username and password attached to someone who had legitimate access and simply walked through the front door. How many of your vendors have credentials that have never been audited? How many former contractors still have access? Is everyone using MFA on every system? The fundamentals are still the open book test, and too many organizations aren't passing it.
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