When LSAC accused a student of cheating, claiming his score jump had “Powerball odds,” Ben and Nathan dig into the details. They break down LSAC’s vague statistical claims and explain why big score increases are both possible and common for serious students. They also urge the student to document their prep to show clear evidence of progress.Also in this episode:Early 1L and 2L law firm hiring trendsA student asks whether to keep taking undergrad classes to boost their GPAShould you ask law schools for an application fee waiver?Links Mentioned:https://lsat.link/grades Study with our Free PlanDownload our iOS appWatch Episode 532 on YouTubeCheck out all of our “What’s the Deal With” segmentsGet caught up with our Word of the Week library0:00 - Is It Ever Worth Paying for Law School? 23:40 - LSAC Accuses a Student of Cheating 49:20 - 1L and 2L Law Firm Hiring Trends 56:37 - Should I Keep Taking Classes? 1:03:37 - Community Colleges Offering A+ Grades 1:09:59 - Pearls vs. Turds 1:15:06 - Should You Ask for a Fee Waiver? 1:19:44 - Word of the Week — Demarcating
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Stop Blaming the Test (Ep. 531)
Since the October score release, there's been some online chatter claiming the October LSAT was unusually difficult. Nathan and Ben respond to one student's concerns by pointing to numerous Demon students who crushed the LSAT this month. They remind listeners that every test administration sparks the same rumors, but the LSAT remains consistent from one test to the next. That consistency should inspire confidence. If your practice test scores match your goal score, you’re ready for the real deal. Also in this episode:- Ben and Nathan explore community colleges awarding A-pluses- Demon students share their parting advice for LSAT success- They critique a prep company that promotes a “blind review” scoreLinks Mentioned:lsat.link/gradesNortheast Community College Course Search: https://reg-prod.ec.northeast.edu/StudentRegistrationSsb/ssb/term/termSelection?mode=searchFoothill College Course Search: https://foothill.edu/schedule/Arizona State University Universal Learner Courses: https://courses.ulc.asu.edu/ Study with our Free PlanDownload our iOS appWatch Episode 531 on YouTubeCheck out all of our “What’s the Deal With” segments.Get caught up with our Word of the Week library. 0:30 - Was the October LSAT Harder?7:45 - Drill Rating System12:51 - Colleges with A-pluses25:32 - Tips From Departing Demons39:24 - Blind Review Score53:08 - Lived Experience Essay1:00:00 - Personal Statement Gong Show1:07:55 - Word of the Week — incommunicado
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The Early Application Advantage (Ep. 530)
Nathan and Ben highlight a notable increase in law school applications per the latest LSAC reports. These numbers have nervous students rushing to apply this cycle, even though they don't have a strong LSAT score. Nathan and Ben explain that November is already late. Instead, they encourage applicants to wait and apply next year to take advantage of the best scholarship opportunities. Also in this episode:Gratitude from a listener who embraced the Demon mindsetA message from Nebraska Law about student loansA Demon student questions whether to keep going after low scoresLinks Mentioned:LSAC Volume Summary ReportStudy with our Free PlanDownload our iOS appWatch Episode 530 on YouTubeCheck out all of our “What’s the Deal With” Segments.Get caught up with our Word of the Week library. 0:30 - LSAC Volume Summary Report10:10 - Following the Demon Philosophy17:13 - When to Submit Applications29:56 - Email from a Law School on Loan Limits44:46 - Low LSAT Scores51:27 - What’s the Deal with the University of Arizona1:05:00 - Personal Statement Gong Show1:12:28 - Word of the Week - impervious
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Apply Like You Mean It (Ep. 529)
Ben and Nathan explain why applying broadly maximizes admissions and scholarship opportunities. They advise students to consider waiting another cycle to submit the strongest application possible.Also in this episode:An Ask-button question about reading each passage thoroughlyBen and Nathan’s take on law school applications that ask where else you’ve appliedAdvice on whether to waive your right to view letters of recommendationLinks Mentioned:Register for the Los Angeles LSAC Forum: http://lsac.org/lawschoolforumsStudy with our Free planDownload our iOS appWatch Episode 529 on YouTubeCheck out all of our “What’s the Deal With” segments.Get caught up with our Word of the Week library. 0:30 - Reading Every Passage Thoroughly7:26 - “Where Have You Applied?” on Law School Apps10:18 - Is It Still Worth Applying?23:16 - Tips from Departing Demons24:53 - To Waive, or Not to Waive30:00 - What’s the Deal with Santa Clara Law?51:02 - Personal Statement Gong Show1:14:38 - Word of the Week - Guffaw
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Full Ride Fine Print (Ep. 528)
Ben and Nathan weigh in on New England Law’s conditional, full-tuition scholarships. They criticize conditional scholarships that can leave a majority of students paying full price. At most law schools, only top students (typically those already with scholarships) will secure six-figure jobs. The majority of the class foot the bill, taking out exorbitant loans while earning significantly less after graduation. Ben and Nathan encourage applicants to apply broadly and attend the right school at the right price. Later in the show, they:Break down UC Law San Francisco’s new $100 million campaignReassure a student who fears they’re progressing too slowlyReact to WashU personally contacting applicants’ recommendersLinks Mentioned:Register for the DC Law Fair Register for the New York LSAC ForumStudy with our Free PlanDownload our iOS appWatch Episode 528 on YouTubeCheck out all of our “What’s the Deal With” Segments.Get caught up with our Word of the Week library. 0:32 - UC Law San Francisco $100 Million “Into the Future” Campaign6:00 - Trusting the Process13:48 - WashU Reaching out to Recommenders29:30 - Policies on AI39:15 - Caught Between Admissions Cycles45:20 - Pearls vs. Turds57:24 - What’s the Deal with New England Law?1:13:05 - Personal Statement Gong Show1:35:30 - Word of the Week
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