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• Ep 28 - Behind the Books (Part 1)

  In this episode, Dean takes the host's chair to interview Maegan and Kyle, who have both recently co-authored books in the Building Thinking Classrooms series with Peter Liljedahl. They discuss the release of the new Building Thinking Classrooms Tasks in Mathematics, Grades 6-12 book and how it complements Maegan’s previously released Building Thinking Classrooms Tasks in Mathematics, Grades K-5. Together, the group explores the process of selecting tasks, the importance of thin-slicing, and why the pedagogical research found in the rest of the book is just as critical as the tasks themselves. They also open up about the vulnerability required to write these resources, including the realization that even experienced teachers often need to relearn math concepts to teach them effectively. Tune in for a behind-the-scenes look at creating these resources and how they can support your journey in the classroom.Links:⁠Building Thinking Classrooms Tasks in Mathematics, Grades K-5⁠Building Thinking Classrooms Tasks in Mathematics, Grades 6-12Saskatchewan Understand Math Conference 2026

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• Ep 27 - Jason To

  In this episode, Kyle welcomes Jason To, Math Coordinator for the Toronto District School Board. Together, they address the ongoing debate between inquiry-based learning and explicit instruction. Jason shares his journey into the world of cognitive science, exploring how concepts like cognitive load theory and collective working memory may actually help explain why the Building Thinking Classrooms framework is effective. They also discuss common misunderstandings from both "sides" of the debate, the practical plateaus teachers often face, and the critical need for teacher content knowledge. Tune in for a conversation that moves beyond pedagogical labels and focuses on what's truly important: making sure students are not only engaged, but are also learning.Links:Jason's Blog Post: Why Building Thinking Classrooms Works: Using Evidence from Cognitive Science Research to Explain the Effectiveness of the BTC FrameworkOntario's High-Impact Instructional Practices in Mathematics

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• Ep 26 - Chase Orton

  In this episode, Kyle and Dean welcome Chase Orton, author of The Imperfect and Unfinished Math Teacher. Together, they dive into the core themes from Chase's book, exploring the power of vulnerability and what it means to be an "imperfect and unfinished" teacher. They discuss the importance of interrogating our own math story and breaking free from the traditional "script" that so many teachers inherit from their time as students. They also tackle the common belief that the purpose of math is just to prepare for next year's math class and how this leads to an unhealthy blame game between grade levels. Tune in for a deep conversation about pedagogy, teacher identity, and why the most valuable professional development might just be in the classroom next door.Links:https://chaseorton.com/Audio Companion to the Book, The Imperfect and Unfinished Math Teacher

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• Ep 25 - The Messy Reality

  In this episode, Maegan, Dean, and Kyle get real about their day-to-day journeys with Building Thinking Classrooms. Together, they pull back the curtain to share the "messy reality": the highs, the lows, and the everyday challenges that don't always make the highlight reel. They discuss the universal struggle of getting students to stand, managing complex classroom dynamics with learners from kindergarten to high school, and navigating logistical hurdles like 30-minute class periods. They also celebrate the profound wins that keep them going: the power of math journals, the joy of seeing unexpected students thrive, and the beautiful moments when a classroom truly becomes a community. Tune in for an honest and relatable conversation about why the journey is worth the effort, even when it’s not perfect.

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• Ep 24 - Vanessa Vakharia

  In this episode, Kyle, Maegan, and Dean welcome Vanessa Vakharia, aka The Math Guru and author of Math Therapy. Together, they unpack the deep-seated issue of math trauma and how the Building Thinking Classrooms approach helps us deal with it. The group explores how to create a classroom culture built on empathy and safety by prioritizing questions over answers, while also discussing the importance of progress over perfection, journaling, and helping students develop a stronger math identity. Tune in for a powerful discussion on how to help students build a better relationship with math—one conversation at a time.

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