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What if the thing you thought was holding your life together was actually pulling you under? JiAna spent years reaching for alcohol not because she wanted to drink but because she was living in relentless pain and nobody had anything better to offer her. Between a chronic illness that left her on the floor and a culture that pushed wine at baby showers and playgroups, it made a terrible kind of sense. But slowly, joy started disappearing. The glimmers faded. That's when she knew something had to change. JiAna describes how coaching helped her change her drinking not through shame or rigid rules, but through curiosity, community, and the kind of compassion she'd never been shown — or shown herself.

In this episode, JiAna and Coach Cole discuss:

Familial drinking culture and alcohol being normalized from childhood

Endometriosis, chronic pain, and why alcohol felt like the only option

Losing the ability to find joy — the quiet signal that something was wrong

Why shame-free support felt strange at first and transformative over time

The ACT technique: awareness, clarity, and turnaround in practice

Community in The Path and the bonds that lasted beyond the program

Becoming a certified Women's Health Coach and being named one of the Most Influential Women of 2025 

And more on self-love, hope, and turning pain into purpose…

Episode links: endo-ease.comnakedmindpath.com

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Have you ever done everything "right" and still felt like alcohol had the upper hand? You're not alone — and there's a really good reason for that. Coach Hayley coaches M through the fear and doubt swirling around her upcoming break, while Coach Zoe helps Lawrence see that his drinking is actually rooted in a rebellious 15-year-old who never got to grow up. When you understand why willpower fails with alcohol, everything starts falling into place.

M discusses:

Why willpower fails with alcohol when “just one” never feels like enough

Fear of forever, and why one day at a time feels safer

Drinking alone, hiding, and the pain of not feeling like herself

Using experiments and data instead of shame

Wanting peace, sleep, and self-trust more than wine

Learning to meet her authentic self with curiosity

And more…

Lawrence discusses:

The childhood roots of rebellion and how they shaped his drinking

Why alcohol stopped feeling freeing and started feeling costly

Health, sleep, and relationships taking the hit

Realizing rebellion was hurting him, not helping him

Moving from survival mode into wise-adult choices

Letting go of old stories and building a life he doesn’t want to escape

And more topics…

Hayley Scherders is a certified TNM Coach with training from the Canadian Addiction and Mental Health Association. Drawing from personal experiences, Hayley understands how tough change can be and provides a safe, compassionate, and judgment-free space where her clients can feel supported. She believes that with the right mindset, anyone can change their life at any time.

Learn more about Coach Hayley: https://thisnakedmind.com/coach/hayley-scherders/

Zoe Ewart is a Certified Naked Mind Senior Coach who brings her experience and understanding to help with the tricky parts of life’s big changes. Her coaching gives you an enjoyable, light-hearted, and safe environment to effortlessly take back control of alcohol so you can feel better physically, mentally, and spiritually. Zoe taught Pilates for 15 years. She has four adult children and more animals than the Ark ever had.

Learn more about Coach Zoe: https://thisnakedmind.com/coach/zoe-ewart/

Episode links: nakedmindpath.com

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Ready to take the next step on your journey? Visit https://learn.thisnakedmind.com/podcast-resources for free resources, programs, and more. Until next week, stay curious!

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What happens when the thing you're most afraid to lose is also the thing quietly costing you everything? Anne grew up in a home where five o'clock cocktails were as reliable as the sunset. Drinking was culture, celebration, and comfort, and for a long time, it felt completely earned. But through two pregnancies, her parents' declining health, and eventually losing both of them, a bottle a night became two. A blackout fight with her husband, one she has zero memory of, became the moment she couldn't look away anymore. She found This Naked Mind, joined The Path in October 2023, and started doing the unglamorous daily work. "Looking back, I can see how I rewired my mindset around drinking," Anne says. "It was subtle. It just got a little easier and a little easier." Two and a half years later, she's present, she's lucid at 11:30 PM when her kids need her, and she's collecting memories she actually gets to keep.

In this episode, Anne and Coach Cole talk about:

The family culture that made drinking feel normal, necessary, and completely deserved

Losing both parents, leaning harder on wine, and the night a blackout broke through the denial

Why Anne chose The Path over rehab — and what drew her to TNM's nonjudgmental approach

How journaling and questioning her own thoughts slowly dismantled beliefs she'd never examined

Being the parent who's awake and present at 11:30 PM — and why that changed everything

Open, honest conversations with her teenage sons about alcohol and family history

Natural highs from tennis wins, ski trips, and family dinners that beat any buzz she remembers

And more on trading old problems for ones she's genuinely glad to have...

Episode links: nakedmindpath.com

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Ready to take the next step on your journey? Visit https://learn.thisnakedmind.com/podcast-resources for free resources, programs, and more. Until next week, stay curious!

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Does it ever feel like you know everything there is to know about why you drink, and none of it is enough to make you stop? You're not alone in that. In this episode, Coaches Hayley and Cole each sit with a Path member who's been carrying that exact weight. Audrey has 20 years of binge drinking, a ton of quit lit under her belt, and a shame so deep she's not sure she deserves to feel better. Savannah is eight days in and quietly discovering that figuring out how to stop drinking when you're lonely gets a little more possible when you stop white-knuckling it alone and actually lean into the community around you. 

Audrey discusses:

Why shame and isolation kept her stuck in the drinking cycle

The belief that alcohol was the only way to numb emotional pain

Reframing fear and staying open to new tools

Why community matters when learning how to stop drinking when you’re lonely

Moving from self-judgment toward self-compassion

Building a life that feels more aligned and less escapable

And more topics…

Savannah discusses:

Friday night cravings, loneliness, and the urge to check out

What she learned from experimenting with alcohol-free evenings

Why drinking brought only short relief and longer emotional lows

New insights around sleep, anxiety, and nighttime urges

Football games, routines, and breaking old drinking patterns

How community, curiosity, and small wins helped her practice how to stop drinking when you’re lonely

And more…

Hayley Scherders is a certified TNM Coach with training from the Canadian Addiction and Mental Health Association. Drawing from personal experiences, Hayley understands how tough change can be and provides a safe, compassionate, and judgment-free space where her clients can feel supported. She believes that with the right mindset, anyone can change their life at any time.

Learn more about Coach Hayley: https://thisnakedmind.com/coach/hayley-scherders/

Cole Harvey is a certified Naked Mind Senior Coach. For years, he felt lost and used alcohol as a way to cope, until he decided to go alcohol-free and focus on finding his purpose. Through curiosity, self-compassion, and adventure, he transformed his life. As a habit change and mindset coach, Cole helps young men understand themselves, build better habits, and find meaning.

Learn more about Coach Cole: https://thisnakedmind.com/coach/cole-harvey/

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What is gray area drinking for women – and what happens when “drink less” slowly turns into “I don’t even want this anymore”? In this Where Are They Now conversation, Calley returns after first appearing on the podcast in October 2019 to share what seven years alcohol-free really looks like. Talking with Coach Hayley, she reflects on motherhood, moving, social discomfort, and the quiet but powerful shift from worrying about what was in her glass to simply living free. It’s an honest, encouraging look at what changes when curiosity replaces shame and alcohol stops taking up so much space in your mind.

Calley and Hayley discuss:

Motherhood, moving, and realizing wine was taking up more space than she wanted

What is gray area drinking for women—and why curiosity matters before things feel “serious enough.”

From social discomfort to feeling fully at home in her alcohol-free skin

Honest conversations with kids about alcohol, pressure, and awareness

Why community, compassion, and knowledge matter more than shame

How freedom from alcohol opened the door to deeper healing around sugar, caffeine, and self-trust

And more on confidence, connection, and building a life that feels good without alcohol

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Ready to take the next step on your journey? Visit https://learn.thisnakedmind.com/podcast-resources for free resources, programs, and more. Until next week, stay curious!

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