They That Hope: A Catholic Podcast

• Bob's Hobbit Adventure

  What do typhoon evacuations, koala selfies, and second breakfast in Hobbiton have in common? They’ve all been part of Deacon Bob’s adventurous month.  After a few weeks apart, Father Dave and Deacon Bob are back, swapping globe-trotting tales, ministry moments, and a surprisingly full slate of sports updates. Bob’s recent trip took him from the typhoon-swept Philippines to Singapore, Perth, Sydney, and a bucket-list stop in New Zealand’s Hobbiton (yes, complete with hobbit holes, the Green Dragon Inn, and second breakfast).  Along the way, he preached to 90 youth leaders just hours after a typhoon hit, met a koala, saw kangaroos, and even met a listener named Rain who drove five hours just to hear him speak. There were plenty of memorable meals, from perfect pancakes to less-than-crispy bacon.  Meanwhile, Father Dave stayed stateside, baptizing great-nieces (one walked to her own baptism), speaking at the Knights of Columbus Conference, and making a moving visit to the Blessed Stanley Rother Shrine in Oklahoma City. He shares Rother’s remarkable story—from failing Latin in seminary, to obeying his bishop’s call to return to Guatemala, to his martyrdom in 1981—and the beauty of a shrine built right in the heart of the city it serves.  Sports fans get plenty too: the debut of MLB’s first female umpire Jen Pawol (including her Hall of Fame–bound first pitch), Tom Brady’s towering new statue, and even a trivia challenge about the University of Michigan making draft history.  Naturally, there are detours, including CGI vs. AI, bad sports statues, and ministry moments that transcended cultural boundaries. But through it all, the heart stays the same: joyfully sharing the Gospel, wherever God sends you (even if it’s to a sheep paddock in New Zealand).    Highlighted Sections  (00:00) Sports, Schedules, and Saying Goodbye  The guys open with bittersweet news about the podcast winding down, why recording has gotten harder, and an invitation for listeners to share favorite memories. They then go into the week’s light sports slate and review the new Superman. Even with the end in sight, their trademark banter is alive and well.    (05:41) Football, Statues, and Sports Trivia  Deacon Bob previews a Buccaneers-Steelers preseason game while Father Dave looks forward to Steelers training camp. They discuss Tom Brady’s towering statue and celebrate Jen Pawol historic debut as MLB’s first female umpire. The segment wraps with a trivia challenge about a university making draft history in all four major leagues.    (15:44) From Typhoons to Hobbit Holes  Bob recounts ministry in the Philippines, Perth, and New Zealand, including speaking to youth leaders after a typhoon and connecting with alumni abroad. He describes walking through the Shire set from The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit, complete with hobbit holes and the Green Dragon Inn. Jenny may not be a huge fan of the films, but even she found the tour magical.    (23:42) Sydney, Koalas, and the Ends of the Earth  From welcoming bishops to preaching across cultures, Bob reflects on moments when the Holy Spirit’s anointing was tangible. He shares encounters with young adults, a koala, and a listener who drove five hours to hear him speak. Each stop reaffirmed the universal joy of sharing the Gospel.    (25:42) Baptisms, Knights, and Blessed Stanley Rother  Father Dave talks about baptizing his great-nieces and representing Franciscan University at the Knights of Columbus Conference. He shares the moving story of Blessed Stanley Rother a missionary priest martyred in Guatemala, and describes visiting the shrine dedicated to him. The witness of Rother’s courage and devotion left a lasting impression.    (32:37) Feast Days and a Chapel Blessing  Looking ahead to the Feast of the Assumption they pray for peace amid global tensions. Father Dave previews the blessing of Franciscan University’s newly renovated Christ the King Chapel, while Bob outlines upcoming speaking engagements. The conversation closes with anticipation for the start of the school year.    Resources Mentioned  Blessed Stanley Rother Shrine – Learn more about the first American-born martyr  MLB First Female Umpire – Jen Pawol – Read about her historic debut  Hobbiton Movie Set – Explore the filming location of The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit  Feast of the Assumption – August 15, a Holy Day of Obligation in the Catholic Church  Christ the King Chapel Renovation – Franciscan University’s expanded and renewed chapel  Purposeful Lab – New season started on Faith and Reason 

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• The July Episode

  What happens when the world’s top golfer says faith—not golf—is his top priority?  Father Dave and Deacon Bob kick off this episode with that headline-grabbing story, plus summer sports updates, movie reviews, and a powerful look at how God is moving through this year’s youth conferences.  They cover everything from the MLB All-Star Game and Father Dave’s baseball “betrayal” (attending games without Bob) to a heartfelt reflection on Scottie Scheffler’s British Open win—and why his grounded priorities made bigger headlines than his major win. Father Dave also reviews the new Superman movie, featuring Krypto the Superdog, while Deacon Bob tries to catch up on Fantastic Four before heading overseas.  But the heart of the episode is ministry: stories from Steubenville Youth Conferences where teens received the Sacrament of Reconciliation, and lives were changed through the theme “Consumed.” Father Dave shares insights from a friars’ retreat on hope as a spiritual discipline, while Bob prepares for a whirlwind ministry tour in the Philippines, Australia, and beyond (with protein bars and peanut butter in tow).  Naturally, there are tangents galore: a drone demo gone off-script, global food fears, and a preview of Franciscan’s upcoming Christ the King Chapel dedication. But through it all, the message is clear: Hope doesn’t disappoint—it transforms.    Highlighted Sections  (00:00) Summer Break, Baseball, and All-Star Highlights  The guys ease back into the podcast after a month off with All-Star Game highlights, reflections on the Tigers’ surprising run, and a lament over Father Dave attending games without Bob. They also touch on rising stars like Paul Skenes, who started for the National League, and celebrate the return of players wearing their own uniforms.  (05:10) Scheffler’s Priorities and Superpowered Blockbusters  Scottie Scheffler wins the British Open, but stuns the media by saying golf is third in his life after faith and family. The guys reflect on identity, ambition, and what really matters. Father Dave also reviews Superman (yes, Krypto the dog steals the show), while Bob desperately hopes he can catch Fantastic Four while on the road.  (11:30) Faith Under Fire  They highlight Father Dave’s recent In Person interview with Nina Shea, who shares sobering insights on Christian persecution across the globe—from Nigeria to China—and what it means to witness to hope in the face of violence and fear.  (13:17) Youth Conferences: Confessions, Vocations, and Conversions  From Halifax to Springfield, this summer’s Steubenville Conferences have been full of grace. Thousands of confessions. Vocational calls answered. And in St. Louis alone, 20 teens stepped forward expressing their desire to come more fully into the Church.  (23:56) A World Tour, a Friars’ Retreat, and Acts of Hope  Bob prepares to minister across the globe, while Father Dave shares a takeaway from the friars’ retreat: hope is an action—choosing to lean into God, especially when life feels uncertain.  (28:24) Chapel Countdown and a Drone in the Studio  They preview Franciscan’s upcoming chapel dedication, celebrate milestones, and attempt a live drone demo (with expected results). The episode closes with prayer for those struggling to hold onto hope.    Resources Mentioned  “Scottie Scheffler says 'faith and family' are most important after winning British Open” – Christian Post article  Steubenville Conferences – Life-changing encounters with Christ for youth and adults alike  In Person Interview with Nina Shea – Watch Father Dave’s interview with Nina Shea on global Christian persecution  Superman (2025)  The Fantastic Four: First Step  Ablaze Ministries  

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• Pillow Fight!

  There’s nothing like the NBA and NHL Finals… unless you count professional pillow fighting.  In this episode, Father Dave and Deacon Bob celebrate the end of the sports season with a rundown of the Stanley Cup, the NBA Finals, and the rise of summer’s strangest athletic events, including the Pillow Fighting Championship (yes, it’s real).  But the heart of the episode is hope—the kind that doesn’t come from scores or summer plans, but from Christ. They reflect on the Eucharist, the Sacred and Immaculate Hearts, and the graces poured out at recent conferences at Franciscan and Notre Dame. From youth ministry to marriage milestones, they explore what it means to trust God with both our spiritual and everyday needs.  Naturally, they go off on tangents, from hotel bathrobes and awkward airline announcements to anniversary shoutouts and the idea of launching a Franciscan pillow-fighting team (tentative name: the Franciscan Feathers).    Highlighted Sections  (00:00) Bathrobes, Notre Dame, and the $175 Upcharge  Deacon Bob checks in from the Morris Inn at the University of Notre Dame, complimentary robe included. He’s there for Notre Dame Vision, a youth program inviting high schoolers into deeper faith. (03:30) Sports Wrap and the Rise of Pillow Fighting  From there, they pivot to sports: the Florida Panthers clinch the Stanley Cup, Oklahoma City Thunder top the Pacers in Game 7, and Canada’s Stanley Cup drought continues. And just when you think sports can’t get weirder—enter the Pillow Fighting Championship, now with corporate sponsorships and, apparently, rules.  (10:31) Augustine and Airport Public Shaming  Fr. Dave highlights a recent In Focus episode featuring Dr. Shane Owens, where they unpack the enduring relevance of St. Augustine’s Confessions in a world increasingly shaped by AI and secular culture. The conversation quickly pivots, though, as Deacon Bob shares a less lofty moment: a painfully awkward moment from his flight to South Bend, where a bathroom break turned into a public shaming over the intercom.  (19:29) Hope as Grace: Conferences and Franciscan Honeymoon  Father Dave shares stories from the Power and Purpose Conference, themed around hope. He reflects on hope as a grace—not just good vibes or optimism—and mentions a couple who spent their 50th wedding anniversary and a couple on their honeymoon at the same event.  (23:01) Corpus Christi and the God Who Satisfies  Jesus didn’t just meet spiritual needs. He fed the crowds too. Father Dave and Deacon Bob explore how our trust in God is often strong in the abstract, but wavers in daily stresses. They tie it back to Corpus Christi, Romans 5, and the gift of the Holy Spirit.  (28:34) Sacred Hearts, Summer Kickoffs, and Marriage Milestones  Deacon Bob celebrates 28 years of marriage on the same day as the Feast of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. He also gives a shoutout to the kickoff of Franciscan’s high school youth conferences and the ongoing Priests, Deacons, and Seminarians Retreat.  (31:10) Praying for Peace in a Complicated World  The hosts close with a prayer for peace amid global tensions, especially in the Middle East and Ukraine. They close with a reflection on Pope Leo’s Angelus invitation to prayer and remind listeners that lasting peace only comes from the Heart of Christ.    Resources & Mentions  Power and Purpose Conference – A weekend of renewal, prayer, and worship through Steubenville Conferences.   Notre Dame Vision – A summer youth program helping teens hear God’s call.  Romans 15:13 and Romans 5:5 – Scriptures that anchor this episode’s theme of hope  Pope Leo XIV: Son of St. Augustine– Watch the latest In Focus episode with guest Dr. Shane Owens on Faith & Reason.   Pillow Fighting Championship– Yes, it’s real. Yes, it has rules. Yes, you’re going to Google it.    Listen to more They That Hope episodes and discover other Catholic podcasts, videos, and resources at Faith and Reason.

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• Saints of Poland

  What happens when you pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet in St. Faustina’s backyard?  This week, Father Dave shares powerful moments from his recent pilgrimage to Poland—visiting sacred sites tied to St. Maximilian Kolbe, St. Faustina, and St. John Paul II. From celebrating Mass at Kolbe’s friary to walking through Auschwitz and Birkenau, it’s a glimpse of God’s mercy amid some of history’s darkest places.  While Father Dave walked in the footsteps of saints, Deacon Bob found hopeful witness in the desert. He returns from the Life Teen Catholic Youth Ministry Convention in Arizona, where he gave a talk on “Radiant Hope” and reconnected with longtime friends in ministry. Together, the hosts reflect on the quiet, often unseen ways God raises up saints in every generation—even in the most unexpected places.  And yes, this episode still includes classic They That Hope moments: breakfast with Father Dave’s brother Tom, a temporarily misplaced child on the New York subway, and a burning question: Why does the French Open have two names?    Highlighted Sections  (00:00) Breakfast with Tom, Arizona Adventures, and Youth Ministry in the Desert  Deacon Bob recounts his recent trip to Arizona for the Life Teen Catholic Youth Ministry Convention where he reconnected with ministry leaders and gave a keynote on “Radiant Hope.” He also shares a surprise breakfast meet-up with Father Dave’s brother, Tom (a loyal listener), some humorous travel woes, and the joy of being surrounded by those serving the Church’s youth.  (04:08) Sports Recap: NBA, NHL, Tennis, and... Golf?  From unexpected NBA playoff upsets to a grueling five-set French Open final, Father Dave and Deacon Bob weigh in on recent sports headlines. They touch on the drama of playoff hockey, marvel at JJ Spaun’s 62-foot putt, and clear up (sort of) why the French Open is also called Roland-Garros.  (09:01) Audiobook Adventures  Deacon Bob announces that his book Sharing the Gospel with Our Lives is getting the audiobook treatment—and he’s narrating it himself. He shares the process (including a mysterious home studio in Columbus), while Father Dave recalls the heartbreak of being cut off with just 15 minutes left in a Navy SEAL memoir due to subscription limits.  (16:29) Pilgrimage to Poland: Kolbe, Faustina & Divine Mercy in Dark Places  Father Dave reflects on the deeply moving pilgrimage he led across Poland. Highlights include Mass at St. Maximilian Kolbe’s friary visiting the birthplace of St. Faustina, and praying the Divine Mercy Chaplet in St. Faustina’s backyard with her niece. He shares how the lives of these saints—and the sobering visit to Auschwitz and Birkenau—revealed the light of God even in history’s darkest moments.  (23:02) Saints Amidst Suffering  As conflict rages in places like Gaza and Ukraine, the hosts reflect on how God raises up saints in every era. From the Missionaries of Charity caring for the vulnerable in war zones, to everyday youth ministers and celibate religious, they honor those whose quiet, faithful witness brings hope to the world.  (28:22) Radiant Hope in Service  Expanding on his convention talk, Deacon Bob shares how true Christian hope is made visible through acts of loving service. Drawing from Scripture and the Visitation of Mary, he explains how hope, though unseen, shines clearly in those who serve joyfully and sacrificially.    Resources Mentioned  Sharing the Gospel with Our Lives: A Relational Approach to Catholic Youth Ministry by Deacon Bob Rice  LifeTeen Catholic Youth Ministry Convention  In Person with Bishop Cozzens on Faith&Reason  Hoopla streaming app  Franciscan Catechetical Institute  Divine Mercy Shrine in Kraków, Poland  Niepokalanów, St. Maximilian Kolbe’s Friary  Auschwitz-Birkenau Memorial and Museum  How to Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet    Listen to more They That Hope episodes and discover other Catholic podcasts, videos, and resources at Faith and Reason.

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• Pope, Pope, Pope

  There’s a new pope—and he’s an Augustinian!   In this episode, Father Dave and Deacon Bob discuss the election of Pope Leo XIV, the first member of the Order of St. Augustine to lead the Catholic Church. They explore why St. Augustine’s Confessions remains a spiritual masterpiece and how his vision of community, conversion, and interior prayer speaks to the Church’s call for renewal today.  Naturally, they go off on many tangents, starting with a chilly trip to Cedar Point, detouring through spelling bee glory and NFL drama, and ending in Poland (via pilgrimage, not roller coaster). And yes, they say “Pope” a lot. Allegedly, it boosts downloads. (Spoiler: It works.)    Highlighted Sections  (00:00) T-Shirts, Field of Dreams, and the Pope Bump  The episode opens with an early Father’s Day gift: a nostalgic T-shirt featuring Field of Dreams. This sparks a discussion about podcast stats and the surprisingly real “Pope bump,” where there seems to be an uptick in listeners anytime the pope is mentioned in the title. For science, they test it live.  (03:45) Teacups, Tournaments, and the Cold Ride of Aging  Deacon Bob recounts a brisk grandkid-filled day at Cedar Point, while Father Dave recaps the equally chilly Memorial Golf Tournament in Dublin, Ohio. Along the way, they correct a Jack Nicklaus/Jack Nicholson mix-up and debate whether roller coasters or golf better reveal our age.  (10:28) Spelling Bees, Stage Fright, and Childhood Wins  The Scripps National Spelling Bee champ nails “éclaircissement,” then collapses with joy. That memory sparks their own stories: Father Dave’s catechism bee victory and Deacon Bob’s state theater auditions. They reflect on the pressure of performing, the resilience it builds, and how these moments shape us.  (16:11) Pope Leo XIV, St. Augustine, and Why Confessions Still Matters  The first Augustinian pope opens the door to rich reflections on St. Augustine’s enduring legacy. Father Dave and Deacon Bob spotlight Return to the Heart by Dr. Shane Owens, which unpacks the biblical themes in Confessions for today’s reader. Owens also recently joined Father Dave for an episode of Franciscan University Presents to discuss how Augustine’s life and writings continue to guide hearts back to Christ.  (21:05) Pentecost, Pilgrimages, and the Road Ahead  Pentecost kicks off a summer of spiritual encounters: Heather Khym leads the first Glory: A Women’s Gathering, Deacon Bob heads to the LifeTeen Catholic Youth Ministry Convention, and Father Dave departs for a pilgrimage to Poland to visit sites connected to St. John Paul II, St. Faustina, and St. Maximilian Kolbe. They share the joys of ministry on the move and the fresh hope the Holy Spirit always brings.  Resources Mentioned  Return to the Heart: The Biblical Spirituality of St. Augustine's Confessions by Dr. Shane Owens  St. Augustine’s Confessions and Us with guest Dr. Shane Owens – Franciscan University Presents  Glory: Women’s Gathering Steubenville Conference with Heather Khym  LifeTeen Catholic Youth Ministry Convention  Confessions by St. Augustine   Poland Pilgrimage: In the Footsteps of St. John Paul II & St. Faustina with Father Dave Pivonka, TOR    Listen to more They That Hope episodes and discover other Catholic podcasts, videos, and resources at Faith and Reason.

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