
411. How To Pastor in the Age of Trump
1/05/2026 | 1h 5 mins.
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker speaks with Cody Deese about his journey from a Southern Baptist upbringing to becoming a progressive Christian leader. They discuss the challenges of navigating faith in a landscape dominated by Christian nationalism, the importance of social justice, and the complexities of maintaining relationships with family members who hold differing political views. Cody's Website | Codydeese.com Chapters 01:25 Cody Daese: A Journey from Fundamentalism to Progressive Christianity 12:35 Navigating Relationships in a Divided America 18:44 The Role of the Church in Social Justice 24:31 Confronting Gun Culture and Nationalism in the Church 30:41 The Evolution of a Spiritual Collective 34:03 Challenging Church Structures and Leadership 52:11 Finding Balance in Activism and Personal Life ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: www.thenewevangelicals.com Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

410. Join the Movement
12/29/2025 | 5 mins.
Malynda Hale has a year end message to share honesty and gratitude. Join us on Dec 30th for our "Join the Movement" Live stream fundraiser -- live on all platforms! ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: www.thenewevangelicals.com Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

409. That's a Wrap on 2025. Tim's Thoughts on a Year of Change
12/22/2025 | 20 mins.
In this personal episode, Tim Whitaker reflects on the significant changes and growth experienced throughout the year, both personally and within the New Evangelicals organization. He expresses gratitude to the audience and discusses the evolution of the podcast, the importance of community engagement, and the ongoing fight against Christian nationalism. Chapters 03:00 Organizational Growth and New Directions 05:48 The Future of TNE and Community Engagement 08:57 The Call to Action Against Christian Nationalism 12:13 Gratitude and Looking Ahead ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: www.thenewevangelicals.com Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

408. I Used to Work For Turning Point. Here's How I Got Out
12/15/2025 | 1h
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker speaks with Caroline Stout, a former employee of Turning Point USA, about her journey from evangelical fundamentalism to a more nuanced understanding of faith and politics. Caroline shares her experiences growing up in a mega church, her involvement with Turning Point USA, and the evolution of the organization over the years. Caroline on Instagram | @Babyblue.tx Caroline on TikTok | @Babyblue.tx Chapters 05:10 Growing Up in Evangelical Culture 15:02 The Evolution of Turning Point USA 24:45 The Impact of Media and Propaganda 35:06 Navigating Complexities of Faith and Politics 40:05 Conclusion and Future Directions ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: www.thenewevangelicals.com Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

407. What Changed Our Minds - From Two Former Christian Nationalists
12/08/2025 | 1h 3 mins.
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a candid conversation with Monte Mader, a musician turned content creator. They explore the challenges and transformations in their personal and professional lives, discussing the impact of Christian nationalism, the journey of deconstruction, and the pursuit of authenticity in faith and life. Monte's Website | Montemader.com Monte's Podcast | Flipping Tables Chapters 03:00 Impact of Christian Nationalism 09:00 Navigating Faith and Politics 15:00 Authenticity and Personal Beliefs 21:00 Challenges of Deconstruction 27:00 Community and Hope for the Future ____________________________________________________ TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: www.thenewevangelicals.com Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | Joshgilbertmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices



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