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The New Evangelicals Podcast

Hosted by Tim Whitaker
The New Evangelicals Podcast
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  • The New Evangelicals Podcast

    Rebroadcast: 400. The Separation of Church and Hate

    08/10/2026 | 56 mins.
    *This is a Rebroadcast of Episode 400. The Separation of Church and Hate*

    Original Description:

    In today's episode, Tim interviews John Fugelsang, author of '⁠The Separation of Church and Hate⁠.' They discuss John's upbringing in a Catholic household, the hijacking of Christianity by fundamentalists, and the challenges of engaging with those who hold extremist views. The conversation also touches on the role of media in shaping perceptions of Christianity, the impact of Trump on evangelicalism, and the importance of shared values in combating Christian nationalism. John emphasizes the need for Christians to return to the teachings of Jesus and to advocate for love and compassion in society.

    John's Book | ⁠Separation of Church and Hate: A Sane Person's Guide to Taking Back the Bible from Fundamentalists, Fascists, and Flock-Fleecing Frauds⁠

    John on Twitter | ⁠@Johnfugelsang⁠

    Chapters

    02:45 John's Background and Early Influences

    08:29 Engaging with Fundamentalism

    14:47 Cognitive Dissonance in Evangelicalism

    20:42 The Challenge of Critical Thinking in Faith

    38:30 The Role of Media in Shaping Narratives

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    The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center.

    This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here!
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  • The New Evangelicals Podcast

    Rebroadcast: 408. I Used to Work For Turning Point. Here's How I Got Out

    08/03/2026 | 59 mins.
    *This is a Rebroadcast of Episode 408. I Used to Work For Turning Point. Here's How I Got Out*

    Original Description:

    In today's episode, Tim Whitaker speaks with Caroline Stout, a former employee of Turning Point USA, about her journey from evangelical fundamentalism to a more nuanced understanding of faith and politics. Caroline shares her experiences growing up in a mega church, her involvement with Turning Point USA, and the evolution of the organization over the years.

    Caroline on Instagram | ⁠@Babyblue.tx⁠

    Caroline on TikTok | ⁠@Babyblue.tx⁠

    Chapters

    05:10 Growing Up in Evangelical Culture

    15:02 The Evolution of Turning Point USA

    24:45 The Impact of Media and Propaganda

    35:06 Navigating Complexities of Faith and Politics

    40:05 Conclusion and Future Directions

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    TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals

    This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
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    440. Ok but is Hell Really a Thing?

    07/27/2026 | 47 mins.
    In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages in an insightful interview with ⁠Brian Recker about his book 'Hellbent' and explores the concept of hell, deconstruction, and the future of Christianity. They discuss how traditional views of hell have shaped theology and how a more love-centered approach can transform faith and justice.

    Order Brian's Book | Hellbent

    Chapters

    05:02 Hell as a metaphor for systemic evil

    15:09 The role of metaphor and story in spirituality

    25:12 The systemic roots of Christian supremacy

    35:08 Practical steps toward justice and love

    39:48 Closing thoughts and resources

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    TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals

    Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals

    This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
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    439. Composting White Supremacy

    07/20/2026 | 1h 6 mins.
    In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages in an insightful interview with Ciarra Jones, also known as the Gardening Theologian, about her journey through faith, theology, and activism. They explore themes of white supremacy, deconstruction, queer theology, and the intersection of faith and social justice.

    Ciarra's Website | Ciarrajonesconsulting.com

    Chapters

    05:38 Discussing white supremacy and American history in theology

    11:08 Higher education and deconstruction of fundamentalist beliefs

    15:27 Queer sexuality and faith reconciliation

    20:02 The impact of family and community on faith and identity

    43:31 The power of embodiment and marginalized voices in faith

    54:53 The role of biblical interpretation and social consensus

    01:01:33 Closing remarks and where to find Sierra Jones

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    TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals

    Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals

    This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
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    438. Fundamentalism Taught Me to Obey. Progressive Faith Taught Me to Love

    07/13/2026 | 56 mins.
    In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages in an insightful interview with Rev. Rachel Kessler, aka the Nerdy Priest, shares her journey from evangelical roots to Anglican priesthood, her work advocating for Palestine, and insights into deconstruction, faith, and social justice. A compelling conversation for anyone exploring faith beyond traditional boundaries.

    Rachel's Book | Nerd Faith

    The Nerdy Priest

    Chapters

    02:08 Rachel's Background and Deconstruction Journey

    08:35 Why Stay in the House of Faith?

    15:06 Memorization vs. Understanding the Fruits of the Spirit

    28:11 Deconstructing End Times and Christian Nationalism

    44:09 The 2016 Election and Faith Perspectives

    ____________________________________________________

    TNE Podcast hosts thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. We’re part of the New Evangelical’s 501c3 nonprofit that rejects Christian Nationalism and builds a better path forward, rooted in Jesus and centered on justice. If ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work or get involved, visit our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.thenewevangelicals.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals

    Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals

    This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
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About The New Evangelicals Podcast
The New Evangelicals Podcast invites you into bold, thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. Each week our host, Tim Whitaker, speaks with pastors, theologians, scholars, and cultural leaders who are challenging the status quo, confronting Christian Nationalism, and imagining a more inclusive and just world.
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