The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

📕 Today, David sits down with Robert Bortins, who co-authored the book Woke and Weaponized: How Karl Marx Won the Battle for American Education with journalist Alex Newman.
Robert breaks down the hidden historical blueprint behind modern ideological capture — from early collectivist movements and Prussian education models, to teachers colleges, federal bureaucracy, and the modern classroom.
This isn’t just theory. Robert argues today’s public school system isn’t “broken” — it’s wildly successful at producing the outcomes it was designed for.
Find Robert’s Book Here: https://robertbortins.com/woke-and-weaponized/

Timestamps:
00:00 - Investigating The Root Cause of Wokeness In America
05:13 - The Hidden History of Corrupt Public Education
09:50 - Why Business Tycoons Funded Leftist Education
12:51 - How Marx Infiltrated Public Education
17:05 - When The Active Decline of Education Began
25:01 - How Schools Deceive Parents on What’s Being Taught
30:13 - Schools Now Teach Activism
38:10 - How Current Activist Protests Come From The Education System
42:38 - How Do We Fix Schools?
47:00 - How To Learn More

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In this episode, Lisa is joined by Carrie Severino, President of the Judicial Crisis Network, to examine the growing political pressure surrounding the U.S. Supreme Court and the broader judicial system. The conversation explores concerns over Supreme Court integrity, internal leaks, and how political and activist agendas are influencing judicial education and decision-making.
Lisa and Carrie break down major legal flashpoints, including upcoming cases on birthright citizenship, transgender participation in sports, voting rights, and redistricting battles. The discussion also addresses rising safety concerns for Supreme Court justices and what an increasingly polarized legal climate means for the rule of law, constitutional interpretation, and public trust in the judiciary.
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Buck's NASA Visit
Buck Sexton shares firsthand insights from his visit to NASA and Blue Origin, transitioning the discussion into national security, defense manufacturing, and the future of American military power. He describes what he calls a renaissance in U.S. defense and aerospace innovation, emphasizing the growing importance of advanced manufacturing, artificial intelligence, drone warfare, hypersonic weapons, and rapid production capabilities. Buck explains that modern warfare increasingly depends on technological superiority and scale, warning that the ability to manufacture advanced systems quickly may determine future conflicts more than traditional troop strength.
Clay and Buck also discuss how Silicon Valley’s relationship with the U.S. military has evolved, crediting the Trump administration with pushing major technology companies to reengage with national defense efforts. They highlight concerns about China’s manufacturing capacity and argue that American tech companies have a responsibility to support U.S. national security. The hosts draw historical parallels to World War II–era industrial mobilization, suggesting that today’s defense challenges require similar cooperation between private industry and government.
The final segment of Hour 1 explores the rapid commercialization of space and the growing influence of companies like SpaceX and Blue Origin. Buck Sexton describes space exploration as entering a new era driven by private enterprise, faster launch capabilities, and long‑term ambitions such as low‑Earth‑orbit infrastructure and lunar missions. Clay Travis connects these developments to broader trends in media, technology, and artificial intelligence, noting how formerly separate industries are rapidly converging into a single interconnected ecosystem.
Have You Noticed this About Epstein?
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show is anchored by an extended, in‑depth discussion of the latest Jeffrey Epstein document release, with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton analyzing the significance of more than three million pages of emails and records made public. The hosts argue that the Epstein story has effectively reached its endpoint, contending that the newly released materials do not reveal criminal evidence against additional high‑profile figures. They frame Epstein primarily as a wealthy facilitator who leveraged access to attractive, of‑age women to ingratiate himself with powerful, older men, rather than uncovering a broader, prosecutable conspiracy. The conversation includes discussion of reputational damage suffered by public figures named in the emails, distinctions between criminal conduct and morally questionable behavior, and why federal investigators typically do not release non‑criminal but embarrassing communications. Clay and Buck also address listener skepticism, calls into the show, and questions surrounding Ghislaine Maxwell’s conviction, emphasizing that her charges centered on trafficking for Epstein specifically, not a wider group of clients.
Where is Nancy Guthrie?
A major developing news story involving the disappearance of Savannah Guthrie’s mother, Nancy Guthrie, in Arizona. Clay and Buck carefully walk through the known facts, including her age, physical limitations, and the troubling indicators surrounding the case, such as reports of blood at the scene. They caution against assuming the incident is connected to Savannah Guthrie’s celebrity, drawing comparisons to other tragic but random crimes involving relatives of famous individuals, including the murder of Michael Jordan’s father. The hosts stress that, based on available information, the case appears to be a serious and concerning missing‑person investigation rather than a targeted kidnapping, while urging listeners in Arizona to stay alert as law enforcement updates emerge.
The tone shifts as Hour 2 moves into cultural commentary, beginning with a critique of the Grammy Awards and what Clay and Buck describe as its overtly political and “woke” messaging. They focus in particular on Billie Eilish’s statement that “no one is illegal on stolen land,” which sparks a broader discussion about celebrity activism and perceived hypocrisy. Clay highlights the response from the Tongva tribe, which publicly asserted that Billie Eilish’s Los Angeles mansion sits on their ancestral land and suggested she return the property if she truly believes her statement. The hosts use the moment to question performative politics in Hollywood and whether celebrities are willing to apply their rhetoric to their own personal wealth and property.
Clay's Controversial Music Take
Buck Sexton reports that the United States has shot down a suspected Iranian drone approaching a U.S. aircraft carrier, using the development to discuss the evolving nature of modern naval warfare. Buck explains how drone technology, hypersonic missiles, and ship‑killing capabilities are reshaping global military strategy, potentially turning aircraft carriers into high‑value targets in future conflicts. This segment underscores broader geopolitical tensions involving Iran, U.S. military readiness, and the changing balance of power in international security.
The hour then pivots back to urgent domestic news, with continued updates on the disappearance and apparent abduction of Nancy Guthrie, the mother of Today Show co‑host Savannah Guthrie. Clay and Buck relay that the FBI is now involved, there is no surveillance footage, and authorities believe she was taken against her will in Tucson, Arizona. Emphasizing that this is one of the top stories on national newscasts, the hosts urge listeners—especially those in Arizona—to contact the FBI with any tips. They stress that there is limited verified information available and avoid speculation, framing the situation as a troubling and unresolved missing‑person case.
Following the serious news, Hour 3 takes a sharp tonal turn into what becomes the most talked‑about and interactive segment of the entire program: Clay Travis’s declaration that Taylor Swift is the “modern‑day Beatles.” Clay doubles down on his cultural take, arguing that Taylor Swift’s songwriting catalog, longevity, and stadium‑selling power will endure for decades, much like The Beatles, while Buck Sexton strongly disagrees. The debate quickly ignites a flood of listener reaction, with calls, emails, and talkbacks pouring in from across the country. Listeners challenge the comparison, propose alternative analogies—such as Taylor Swift being more akin to Elvis or Madonna—and passionately defend or reject Clay’s argument.
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In Hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton open the program with an in‑depth discussion of the SAVE Act and the national debate over voter ID laws, emphasizing that this is a major focus of the first hour. The hosts highlight polling data showing overwhelming bipartisan support for photo ID requirements in elections, citing figures consistently above 75 percent, and argue that voter ID is one of the most broadly supported election integrity measures in modern American politics. They sharply criticize Democratic opposition to voter ID, asserting that party leadership, including Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, is out of step with public opinion and framing the resistance as politically motivated rather than rooted in genuine concerns about voter access.
Throughout Hour 1, Clay and Buck explore how Democrats frequently frame election integrity measures as racially discriminatory, particularly toward Black voters, and push back forcefully against that claim. They reference Georgia’s post‑election data to argue that Black voter turnout increased after voter integrity laws were enacted, undermining claims of widespread disenfranchisement. The hosts also contend that requiring identification is a basic expectation of modern life, noting that IDs are required for everyday activities such as flying, banking, and accessing government services. Personal anecdotes are used to illustrate vulnerabilities in the current system, including stories involving elderly voters and ballot handling in nursing homes, reinforcing their argument that stronger safeguards are necessary.
The conversation then shifts into a broader examination of election administration, with Buck Sexton asserting that delayed vote counting creates opportunities for misconduct and that efficient, transparent elections should be a nonpartisan goal. Clay Travis echoes this sentiment, arguing that Republicans should aggressively message voter ID as a common‑sense issue and force Democrats to publicly defend their opposition to a policy supported by a large majority of Americans. The hosts frame election integrity as comparable to border security, asserting that resistance to enforcement reflects ideological priorities rather than practical governance.
Later in Hour 1, Buck Sexton shares firsthand insights from his visit to NASA and Blue Origin, transitioning the discussion into national security, defense manufacturing, and the future of American military power. He describes what he calls a renaissance in U.S. defense and aerospace innovation, emphasizing the growing importance of advanced manufacturing, artificial intelligence, drone warfare, hypersonic weapons, and rapid production capabilities. Buck explains that modern warfare increasingly depends on technological superiority and scale, warning that the ability to manufacture advanced systems quickly may determine future conflicts more than traditional troop strength.
Clay and Buck also discuss how Silicon Valley’s relationship with the U.S. military has evolved, crediting the Trump administration with pushing major technology companies to reengage with national defense efforts. They highlight concerns about China’s manufacturing capacity and argue that American tech companies have a responsibility to support U.S. national security. The hosts draw historical parallels to World War II–era industrial mobilization, suggesting that today’s defense challenges require similar cooperation between private industry and government.
The final segment of Hour 1 explores the rapid commercialization of space and the growing influence of companies like SpaceX and Blue Origin. Buck Sexton describes space exploration as entering a new era driven by private enterprise, faster launch capabilities, and long‑term ambitions such as low‑Earth‑orbit infrastructure and lunar missions. Clay Travis connects these developments to broader trends in media, technology, and artificial intelligence, noting how formerly separate industries are rapidly converging into a single interconnected ecosystem.
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Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show is anchored by an extended, in‑depth discussion of the latest Jeffrey Epstein document release, with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton analyzing the significance of more than three million pages of emails and records made public. The hosts argue that the Epstein story has effectively reached its endpoint, contending that the newly released materials do not reveal criminal evidence against additional high‑profile figures. They frame Epstein primarily as a wealthy facilitator who leveraged access to attractive, of‑age women to ingratiate himself with powerful, older men, rather than uncovering a broader, prosecutable conspiracy. The conversation includes discussion of reputational damage suffered by public figures named in the emails, distinctions between criminal conduct and morally questionable behavior, and why federal investigators typically do not release non‑criminal but embarrassing communications. Clay and Buck also address listener skepticism, calls into the show, and questions surrounding Ghislaine Maxwell’s conviction, emphasizing that her charges centered on trafficking for Epstein specifically, not a wider group of clients.
Later in Hour 2, the show pivots to a major developing news story involving the disappearance of Savannah Guthrie’s mother, Nancy Guthrie, in Arizona. Clay and Buck carefully walk through the known facts, including her age, physical limitations, and the troubling indicators surrounding the case, such as reports of blood at the scene. They caution against assuming the incident is connected to Savannah Guthrie’s celebrity, drawing comparisons to other tragic but random crimes involving relatives of famous individuals, including the murder of Michael Jordan’s father. The hosts stress that, based on available information, the case appears to be a serious and concerning missing‑person investigation rather than a targeted kidnapping, while urging listeners in Arizona to stay alert as law enforcement updates emerge.
The tone shifts as Hour 2 moves into cultural commentary, beginning with a critique of the Grammy Awards and what Clay and Buck describe as its overtly political and “woke” messaging. They focus in particular on Billie Eilish’s statement that “no one is illegal on stolen land,” which sparks a broader discussion about celebrity activism and perceived hypocrisy. Clay highlights the response from the Tongva tribe, which publicly asserted that Billie Eilish’s Los Angeles mansion sits on their ancestral land and suggested she return the property if she truly believes her statement. The hosts use the moment to question performative politics in Hollywood and whether celebrities are willing to apply their rhetoric to their own personal wealth and property.
From there, Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show transitions into a wide‑ranging debate about the decline of modern music and entertainment. Buck Sexton argues that contemporary pop music is overproduced, risk‑averse, and culturally hollow compared to earlier decades, particularly the 1990s, which he describes as the last era of truly great, original music across rock, rap, and R&B. Clay largely agrees on the broader cultural decline but pushes back when the conversation turns to Taylor Swift, defending her songwriting ability, longevity, and cultural impact. The exchange evolves into a spirited debate over whether today’s biggest music stars will have lasting relevance decades from now, with Clay likening Taylor Swift’s influence to that of the Beatles, setting up further discussion in the next hour.
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