The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

How does a former auto mechanic become one of the fastest-rising independent investigative journalists in America?
On this episode of The Karol Markowicz Show, Karol sits down with Walter Curt to discuss his unconventional path into journalism, his rapid rise during COVID, and the shocking moment that changed everything—being swatted alongside multiple journalists.
Walter dives deep into his investigative work uncovering alleged government fraud, financial crime, and activist networks—explaining why “following the money” may reveal far more than the headlines suggest. He also shares insights into his biggest stories, including a controversial school-related scandal, and what it takes to report on sensitive topics in today’s political climate.
Plus, a candid conversation on the personal cost of independent journalism—from threats and family strain to finding purpose and fighting for the next generation.
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SCOTUS Tariff Ruling
The Supreme Court has struck down President Trump’s emergency‑based tariff authority in a 6–3 ruling. Clay and Buck remind listeners that they predicted this outcome weeks ago after oral arguments, noting that the Court appeared skeptical of the legal foundation for the tariff program. They walk through how the ruling centers on the idea that tariff‑setting is a power reserved for Congress, and that the statute Trump used last year was not the proper legal vehicle — even though other, older trade statutes could theoretically empower the president to take similar action. The hosts discuss how this decision could open the door to companies seeking refunds for previously paid tariffs, potentially setting off a wave of litigation involving hundreds of billions of dollars.
Clay predicts that President Trump will almost certainly re‑issue tariffs under a different statutory authority and effectively “run out the clock” on legal challenges, much like previous administrations have done on controversial executive actions. The two compare this to how both Barack Obama and Joe Biden implemented policies they openly acknowledged would later be struck down, simply because the slow legal process allowed the policies to remain in effect for months or years.
IN Gov. Mike Braun
Indiana Governor Mike Braun, who had just been at the White House when President Trump learned of the Supreme Court’s decision striking down his earlier tariff authority. Governor Braun recounts that Trump received the news during a governors’ meeting, appeared visibly irritated, and abruptly cut the session short to address the press. The hosts then ask Braun for his broader assessment of the tariff era, and he argues that tariffs were a necessary corrective after decades of non‑reciprocal trade deals, massive deficits, and foreign economic advantage rooted in post‑World War II arrangements. From his perspective, tariffs helped the United States force overdue trade realignments without the economic doomsday outcomes many predicted.
A major portion of the interview focuses on the explosive story that the Chicago Bears may relocate to Indiana after years of gridlock with Illinois leadership over building a new stadium. Braun says negotiations have been underway for months, Indiana has cleared regulatory and legislative pathways, and the deal is nearly at the finish line barring any last‑minute surprises. Clay and Buck highlight the situation as a prime “red state vs. blue state” contrast, arguing that Chicago’s political dysfunction is driving out an iconic franchise while Indiana’s streamlined governance is attracting it.
The conversation then moves to Indiana’s redistricting controversy. Braun criticizes establishment Republicans in his state legislature for resisting mid‑decade redistricting despite aggressive gerrymandering in deep‑blue states. He says Indiana could have gained additional Republican congressional seats but internal GOP resistance blocked action, leaving the state as an outlier compared to places like Massachusetts or Virginia.
A Detransitioners Story
An in‑depth interview about the firsthand account from 23‑year‑old detransitioner Soren Aldaco, Independent Women ambassador and detransitioner. Soren recounts how, at just eleven years old, she stumbled into online chat communities through her handheld Nintendo device—spaces that had nothing to do with sex or gender but became early gateways for predators and online influencers who groomed and manipulated her. She describes how her teenage unhappiness, combined with a turbulent home life, made her vulnerable to adults who encouraged her to believe she was “a boy in a girl’s body.” By 15, a psychiatrist affirmed a transgender diagnosis instead of addressing the real roots of her distress. At 17, she was prescribed testosterone after a 30‑minute conversation with a nurse practitioner without parental consent. And by 19, she underwent a double mastectomy—meeting the surgeon for the first time only one week before major, irreversible surgery that was approved and paid for by insurance as “medically necessary.”
Her post‑surgery experience was harrowing: severe complications, blood pooling, wounds reopening, and surgical teams who disappeared when she desperately needed follow‑up care. The final blow came not from the physical pain, but from the economic realization—after seeing how dismissively she was treated—that the gender‑transition industry is a highly profitable, lifelong‑patient model rather than legitimate medical care. She began detransitioning at 19 and is now married and rebuilding her life, but faces permanent physical consequences.
Clay presses the legal implications, especially as Soren explains that her lawsuit was just heard by the Texas Supreme Court. The defendants argue the statute of limitations expired before she could even understand the harms done to her. Clay and Buck use this case to urge lawmakers nationwide to eliminate statutes of limitation for gender‑transition malpractice, stressing that vulnerable minors cannot reasonably grasp the permanence of decisions made under emotional distress, manipulation, or online influence. They argue that doctors, hospitals, and insurers should face civil and criminal accountability for performing irreversible procedures on minors.
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Hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show begins with major breaking news: the Supreme Court has struck down President Trump’s emergency‑based tariff authority in a 6–3 ruling. Clay and Buck remind listeners that they predicted this outcome weeks ago after oral arguments, noting that the Court appeared skeptical of the legal foundation for the tariff program. They walk through how the ruling centers on the idea that tariff‑setting is a power reserved for Congress, and that the statute Trump used last year was not the proper legal vehicle — even though other, older trade statutes could theoretically empower the president to take similar action. The hosts discuss how this decision could open the door to companies seeking refunds for previously paid tariffs, potentially setting off a wave of litigation involving hundreds of billions of dollars.
Clay predicts that President Trump will almost certainly re‑issue tariffs under a different statutory authority and effectively “run out the clock” on legal challenges, much like previous administrations have done on controversial executive actions. The two compare this to how both Barack Obama and Joe Biden implemented policies they openly acknowledged would later be struck down, simply because the slow legal process allowed the policies to remain in effect for months or years.
The conversation expands into how this ruling may serve as a political pressure valve for the Supreme Court ahead of several major upcoming cases, including those involving racial gerrymandering and birthright citizenship. Clay believes the Court may have intentionally “slapped back” Trump on tariffs to show neutrality before issuing rulings that could deal far more substantial political blows to the left. Buck adds that the Court’s handling of birthright citizenship could have enormous consequences, potentially redefining automatic citizenship and affecting national sovereignty for generations.
From there, the hour shifts to lighter material as the two joke about Buck’s book, Manufacturing Delusion, which has slipped slightly in Amazon rankings thanks to the runaway success of a memoir by influencer Bunny XO — the wife of country star Jelly Roll. A caller from Florida explains Bunny XO’s popularity as a redemption story involving domestic abuse survival, faith, and rebuilding her life, prompting laughter and good‑natured banter about book marketing and the surprising power of Jelly Roll’s fanbase.
Clay then highlights two uplifting Winter Olympics victories: Team USA’s women’s hockey triumph over Canada in overtime, and Alyssa Liu’s historic gold medal in women’s figure skating — the first for the United States in 24 years. He tells the moving backstory of Liu’s father, who fled China after Tiananmen Square, and explains how the family rejected millions of dollars from China to switch Alyssa’s Olympic allegiance. This segues into a sharp contrast with U.S.‑born athlete Eileen Gu, who chose to compete for China and avoided answering questions about human‑rights abuses, prompting a fiery discussion about dual citizenship, national loyalty, and the ethics of representing foreign regimes.
Listener calls close out the hour with debates over whether dual citizens should vote in U.S. elections, whether Americans abroad should retain voting privileges, and whether competing for another country should automatically void U.S. citizenship. Clay and Buck argue forcefully that dual citizenship creates inherent conflicts of interest and undermines national sovereignty. Hour 1 wraps with additional questions about potential tariff refunds, legal fallout from the ruling, and a preview of upcoming guests — including Indiana Governor Mike Braun, who plans to address reports that the Chicago Bears may relocate to Indiana.
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Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show features a mix of breaking political developments, economic analysis, state‑level governance, medical‑industry skepticism, and live reaction to President Trump’s ongoing tariff press conference. The hour opens with the hosts welcoming Indiana Governor Mike Braun, who had just been at the White House when President Trump learned of the Supreme Court’s decision striking down his earlier tariff authority. Governor Braun recounts that Trump received the news during a governors’ meeting, appeared visibly irritated, and abruptly cut the session short to address the press. The hosts then ask Braun for his broader assessment of the tariff era, and he argues that tariffs were a necessary corrective after decades of non‑reciprocal trade deals, massive deficits, and foreign economic advantage rooted in post‑World War II arrangements. From his perspective, tariffs helped the United States force overdue trade realignments without the economic doomsday outcomes many predicted.
A major portion of the interview focuses on the explosive story that the Chicago Bears may relocate to Indiana after years of gridlock with Illinois leadership over building a new stadium. Braun says negotiations have been underway for months, Indiana has cleared regulatory and legislative pathways, and the deal is nearly at the finish line barring any last‑minute surprises. Clay and Buck highlight the situation as a prime “red state vs. blue state” contrast, arguing that Chicago’s political dysfunction is driving out an iconic franchise while Indiana’s streamlined governance is attracting it.
The conversation then moves to Indiana’s redistricting controversy. Braun criticizes establishment Republicans in his state legislature for resisting mid‑decade redistricting despite aggressive gerrymandering in deep‑blue states. He says Indiana could have gained additional Republican congressional seats but internal GOP resistance blocked action, leaving the state as an outlier compared to places like Massachusetts or Virginia.
After wrapping with Governor Braun — including a lighter detour about Indiana University’s surprise football championship — Clay and Buck pivot to President Trump’s live White House remarks on tariffs. Trump declares he is “ashamed” of certain Supreme Court justices for striking down his earlier tariff authority and insists foreign countries are “dancing in the streets.” He announces he will immediately implement a new universal 10% global tariff under a different statutory authority, including Section 122 and Section 301, insisting he does not need Congress to proceed. Clay and Buck note that this is exactly the workaround they predicted, and Trump’s tone suggests he intends to escalate, not retreat, in the tariff fight.
The hour then introduces filmmaker Jeff Hayes, director of the forthcoming documentary Maha Uncensored, examining America’s pharmaceutical and medical‑industry incentives. Hayes argues the United States is profoundly overmedicated, noting that a quarter of Americans take SSRIs despite evidence they may be ineffective and riddled with side effects. He describes young children being placed on psychiatric medications, widespread ADHD drug use, and a medical system incentivized toward chronic treatment instead of prevention. Hayes praises the emerging political coalition of “Maha Moms” — mothers aligned with both RFK Jr. and Donald Trump — who are demanding transparency in food systems, healthcare, and childhood drug protocols. He discusses how this movement exploded after RFK Jr. coined the phrase “Make America Healthy Again” and expects mothers to remain a driving force in healthcare reform.

The hour closes with more live reaction to Trump’s presser, including his sharp criticism of congressional opponents and his insistence that manufacturing workers support his approach to tariffs. Trump claims the ruling will not slow him down, as existing Section 232 and Section 301 tariffs will remain in place and new tools will be expanded immediately.
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Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers one of the program’s most powerful hours in recent memory, centered entirely on the explosive topic of gender transition, detransitioning, medical malpractice, and parental awareness in the digital age. The hour opens with breaking reaction to President Trump’s press conference following the Supreme Court’s 6–3 decision striking down his earlier tariff authority, but it quickly transitions into an in‑depth interview that drives the bulk of the conversation: a raw, emotional, and deeply troubling firsthand account from 23‑year‑old detransitioner Soren Aldaco, Independent Women ambassador and detransitioner.
Soren recounts how, at just eleven years old, she stumbled into online chat communities through her handheld Nintendo device—spaces that had nothing to do with sex or gender but became early gateways for predators and online influencers who groomed and manipulated her. She describes how her teenage unhappiness, combined with a turbulent home life, made her vulnerable to adults who encouraged her to believe she was “a boy in a girl’s body.” By 15, a psychiatrist affirmed a transgender diagnosis instead of addressing the real roots of her distress. At 17, she was prescribed testosterone after a 30‑minute conversation with a nurse practitioner without parental consent. And by 19, she underwent a double mastectomy—meeting the surgeon for the first time only one week before major, irreversible surgery that was approved and paid for by insurance as “medically necessary.”
Her post‑surgery experience was harrowing: severe complications, blood pooling, wounds reopening, and surgical teams who disappeared when she desperately needed follow‑up care. The final blow came not from the physical pain, but from the economic realization—after seeing how dismissively she was treated—that the gender‑transition industry is a highly profitable, lifelong‑patient model rather than legitimate medical care. She began detransitioning at 19 and is now married and rebuilding her life, but faces permanent physical consequences.
Clay presses the legal implications, especially as Soren explains that her lawsuit was just heard by the Texas Supreme Court. The defendants argue the statute of limitations expired before she could even understand the harms done to her. Clay and Buck use this case to urge lawmakers nationwide to eliminate statutes of limitation for gender‑transition malpractice, stressing that vulnerable minors cannot reasonably grasp the permanence of decisions made under emotional distress, manipulation, or online influence. They argue that doctors, hospitals, and insurers should face civil and criminal accountability for performing irreversible procedures on minors.
The rest of the hour is dominated by passionate reactions from callers—grandparents, parents, former tomboys, and people who watched friends undergo similar transitions—many expressing outrage that a healthy 19‑year‑old can have breasts removed voluntarily while insurance companies refuse to cover standard cosmetic procedures. Clay explains how families are emotionally manipulated by clinicians who say, “Would you rather have a dead daughter or a living son?” and argues this toxic fear‑based framing is pushing parents into decisions they do not fully understand.
The hosts also highlight how the medical establishment, summer camps, schools, and therapists often “socially transition” children without parental consent, normalizing gender changes as acts of kindness when, in reality, they may be misdiagnosing depression, trauma, or isolation. They stress that adolescence is universally confusing, and that many today’s young people who feel discomfort in puberty are being pushed into irreversible medical pathways rather than given time, structure, and emotional support.
The hour closes with additional listener feedback and commentary on the growing number of detransitioners, the emerging lawsuits across the country, and the financial incentives within the healthcare system that keep these procedures alive. Clay and Buck argue that massive lawsuits—like the recent multimillion‑dollar verdicts in transition‑related malpractice cases—will ultimately force hospitals and insurers to end these practices because the financial liability will outweigh the ideological push.
Hour 3 ends with the hosts reiterating the importance of parental vigilance, the dangers of unmonitored online spaces for children, and the need for legislative and cultural pushback against what they call the most alarming medical scandal of a generation.
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