The Peterman Pod

Laurent Charignon was a Staff engineer at Stripe, Airbnb, and Instagram with some experience in management as well. We discussed the unspoken rules you learn as a manager, how he transitioned, what good mentorship looks like, and advice for senior engineers who are stuck looking to grow to Staff.

𝗣𝗼𝗱𝗰𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀:
• Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/airbnb-staff-eng-on-how-to-not-get
• YouTube: https://youtu.be/cgQY_1Uz2b8
• Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835

𝗧𝗶𝗺𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗺𝗽𝘀:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:00:44 - Joining Airbnb and transitioning to EM
00:18:29 - Untold rules of calibrations
00:23:50 - How to dispute bureaucracy
00:29:54 - Airbnb culture
00:31:36 - Leaving Airbnb for Meta
00:35:56 - Uber TL at Stripe
00:42:52 - How to scale yourself
00:45:22 - What people get wrong in coaching
00:52:58 - Why people get stuck at Senior eng
00:57:24 - Most career impacting book
00:58:39 - Advice for younger self
01:00:27 - Outro

𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗟𝗮𝘂𝗿𝗲𝗻𝘁:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurentcharignon/
• Personal Website: https://blog.laurentcharignon.com/
• Twitter/X: https://x.com/lc2817

𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗥𝘆𝗮𝗻:

• Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/
• X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpeterman
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanlpeterman/
• Threads: https://www.threads.com/@ryanlpeterman
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanlpeterman
• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ryanlpeterman

Adrien Friggeri went from a new grad to a principal engineer (IC8) at Meta. He is the original TL who started Bento if you’re familiar with that infra at the company. He got to where he was through a series of promotions across different teams and projects. I interviewed him about everything he learned along the way

𝗣𝗼𝗱𝗰𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀:
• Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/new-grad-to-principal-engineer-ic8
• YouTube: https://youtu.be/2Sjzd9pt6Ts
• Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835

𝗧𝗶𝗺𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗺𝗽𝘀:

00:00 - Intro
00:43 - First team at FB
07:24 - Senior promo /w IG
16:30 - Story behind Bento (Senior staff promo)
25:33 - Taking on perf risk to start the project
29:03 - Learnings from leaving big tech
32:46 - Joining Clubhouse
35:08 - Return to Meta (again)
40:51 - Principal promo (IC8) and tips
51:37 - Maximizing your luck /w people
54:26 - Advice for younger self
55:42 - Outro

𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗔𝗱𝗿𝗶𝗲𝗻:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/friggeri/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adrien/
• Personal Website: https://friggeri.net/

𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗥𝘆𝗮𝗻:

• Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/
• X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpeterman
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanlpeterman/
• Threads: https://www.threads.com/@ryanlpeterman
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanlpeterman
• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ryanlpeterman

Fiona Fung currently supports the Claude Code team at Anthropic and was previously a Senior Director at Meta. She grew quickly through the ranks at Microsoft and Meta before joining Anthropic. I interviewed her about what she learned along the way.

𝗣𝗼𝗱𝗰𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀:
• Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/anthropic-eng-leader-and-ex-senior
• YouTube: https://youtu.be/b5-d8u-c99s
• Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835

𝗧𝗶𝗺𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗺𝗽𝘀:
00:00 - Intro
00:38 - Impact vs team health
03:04 - Managing managers for the first time
05:31 - Advice on mentoring others
06:55 - What you should use 1 on 1s for
07:56 - Leaving Microsoft for Facebook
10:59 - Microsoft vs Facebook culture
12:01 - Why dogfooding is important
21:25 - Joining Anthropic
27:23 - Feedback that changed her career
28:43 - Advice for younger self
29:14 - Outro

𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗙𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fionafung/

𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗥𝘆𝗮𝗻:

• Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/
• X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpeterman
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanlpeterman/
• Threads: https://www.threads.com/@ryanlpeterman
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanlpeterman
• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ryanlpeterman

Hi all, it's been such a fun project for me this year launching this podcast and trying my best to make the content as helpful as possibleAppreciate everyone who has taken the time to watch my videos and give feedback on how to make it betterIt wouldn't be the same without your support! Next year I plan to work hard to keep improving the content, see you in 2026

𝗧𝗶𝗺𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗺𝗽𝘀:
00:00 - Intro
00:50 - Meta Distinguished Eng (Philip Su)
05:23 - Amazon Principal Eng (Steve Huynh)
06:23 - Google Staff Eng by 28 (Ricky Lee)
07:30 - Meta Staff Eng by 25 (Evan King)
08:51 - Shopify Distinguished Eng (Ilya Grigorik)
10:49 - Amazon VP (Ethan Evans)
12:24 - Meta Senior Staff Eng (Dwayne Reeves)
13:14 - CloudKitchens CTO, Ex Uber Senior Staff (Brian Attwell)
13:55 - Instagram Principal Eng (Jake Bolam)
14:42 - Uber Distinguished Eng (Joakim Recht)
15:03 - Creator of Claude Code, Ex Meta Principal (Boris Cherny)
15:45 - Outro

Rong Yan went from a frontline manager at Meta to a Senior Director at Snapchat in 3 years. I interviewed him to ask what led to that rocketship career trajectory in management. We went over how he job hopped into his first Director role and much more.

𝗣𝗼𝗱𝗰𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀:
• Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/frontline-manager-at-meta-to-senior
• YouTube: https://youtu.be/BHlko_Mg-Jk
• Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835

𝗧𝗶𝗺𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗺𝗽𝘀:
00:00 - Intro
00:46 - Joining Facebook
03:06 - Moving up into a Director role
05:09 - Director skill gaps
15:31 - Domain knowledge & management
18:45 - LA vs SF cultures
20:48 - Senior Director growth at Snapchat
22:43 - Evan Spiegel stories
24:59 - Recruitment at higher levels
32:05 - Career planning in hindsight
34:08 - Biggest career regret
35:33 - How much of growth is luck?
38:19 - Advice for younger self
41:53 - Outro

𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗥𝗼𝗻𝗴:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rong-yan-2004692/
• Personal Website: https://cs.cmu.edu/~yanrong

𝗪𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗥𝘆𝗮𝗻:

• Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/
• X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpeterman
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanlpeterman/
• Threads: https://www.threads.com/@ryanlpeterman
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanlpeterman
• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ryanlpeterman