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"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

Erik Torenberg, Nathan Labenz
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis
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  • "The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

    1000 Designs a Day: Neural Concept's Thomas von Tschammer on AI-Native Engineering

    07/01/2026 | 1h 29 mins.
    Thomas von Tschammer, co-founder and Managing Director US of Neural Concept, argues that physics-aware AI is driving a third revolution in engineering physical products. Neural Concept’s models learn from simulation and test data to evaluate 3D designs in minutes, helping Jaguar Land Rover move from about 50 external-aerodynamics evaluations per day to 1,500 and enabling battery cool-plate suppliers to cut development cycles while improving performance. The episode explains why AI is not replacing numerical simulation, but shifting it later in the process while expanding early design exploration across automotive, Formula 1, and manufacturing workflows. The stakes are competitive: companies that make engineering iterations AI-led can compress development cycles, while legacy OEMs risk falling further behind faster-moving Chinese and digital-native hardware competitors.

    For full show notes, links, and references, read the episode page:https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/1000-designs-a-day-neural-concept-s-thomas-von-tschammer-on-ai-native-engineering/
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    CHAPTERS:

    (00:00) About the Episode

    (03:52) Special Sponsor

    (05:40) AI design revolutions

    (12:00) Physics models and data (Part 1)

    (18:40) Sponsor: Claude

    (20:32) Physics models and data (Part 2)

    (21:56) Copilots and workflows

    (33:22) Automation versus engineers

    (40:39) Industry speed gaps

    (48:26) Foundation models and racing

    (58:03) Surprising AI designs

    (01:06:15) Adoption and differentiation

    (01:17:02) Robotics and abundance

    (01:24:36) Episode Outro

    (01:28:10) Outro

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  • "The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

    AI:AM #4: Cameron on Model Consciousness, Duvenaud's Gradual Disempowerment, swyx's AI-Eng Alpha

    06/27/2026 | 1h 56 mins.
    This AI:AM highlights cut brings together Cameron Berg, David Duvenaud, Michiel Bakker, Shawn “swyx” Wang, and Bing Xu to examine what we understand about frontier AI systems and what happens as more decisions move into their hands. Berg grounds model-consciousness debates in experiments on architecture, agency, valence, and welfare, while Duvenaud argues that even well-aligned AI could gradually disempower humans through ordinary economic choices. Bakker frames Europe’s AI challenge as a sovereignty problem, and swyx turns to practitioner stakes around agents, evals, maintainable code, and who owns the system of record. Xu closes the loop at the infrastructure layer, arguing that self-improving compute and GPU-kernel automation may deepen rather than weaken the CUDA moat.

    For full show notes, links, and references, read the episode page:https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/ai-am-4-cameron-on-model-consciousness-duvenaud-s-gradual-disempowerment-swyx-s-ai-eng-alpha/
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    CHAPTERS:

    (00:00) About the Episode

    (00:38) Special Sponsor

    (02:26) Model consciousness indicators

    (10:47) Valence inside models (Part 1)

    (17:09) Sponsor: Claude

    (19:01) Valence inside models (Part 2)

    (19:01) Misalignment and uncertainty

    (25:16) Gradual disempowerment threat

    (35:10) Slow zones and successors

    (47:41) Europe's AI bind

    (55:13) Frontier code benchmarks

    (01:01:59) Routing and memory

    (01:10:42) Agent infrastructure strain

    (01:16:25) Self improving infrastructure

    (01:27:56) Routing compute costs

    (01:35:39) Sovereign AI financing

    (01:42:24) Judging AI judges

    (01:47:26) Building AI DNA

    (01:52:38) Episode Outro

    (01:55:09) Outro

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    Youtube: https://youtube.com/@CognitiveRevolutionPodcast

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  • "The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

    The God We Deserve: Nonzero's Robert Wright on AI as Humanity's Ultimate Test

    06/23/2026 | 2h 29 mins.
    Robert Wright of Nonzero joins Nathan to discuss The God Test, his argument that AI is humanity’s “God test” rather than just a technical challenge. They explore his evolutionary lens on deep learning, from training as selection to marketplace selection among models that may reward selectively honest, power-sensing, or deceptive agents. Wright connects those risks to the noosphere, US-China relations, cognitive empathy, and whether global coordination arrives deliberately or through a coercive singleton. The stakes are whether consumers, companies, and governments select for AIs that strengthen non-zero-sum cooperation or race toward systems that reflect and amplify our worst incentives.

    For full show notes, links, and references, read the episode page:https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/the-god-we-deserve-nonzero-s-robert-wright-on-ai-as-humanity-s-ultimate-test/
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    CHAPTERS:

    (00:00) About the Episode

    (04:23) Special Sponsor

    (06:10) Early AI encounters

    (18:36) Pretraining as evolution (Part 1)

    (19:50) Sponsor: Claude

    (21:42) Pretraining as evolution (Part 2)

    (32:19) Deceptive market pressures

    (41:13) Noosphere and directionality

    (51:02) Global brain choices

    (01:08:23) Designing wiser models

    (01:24:11) Reframing China relations

    (01:37:57) Building organic transparency

    (01:45:54) Positive nationalism and tools

    (01:54:21) Pausing superintelligence races

    (02:09:07) Applications and consciousness

    (02:25:27) Episode Outro

    (02:28:27) Outro

    PRODUCED BY:

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    Website: https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai

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    Youtube: https://youtube.com/@CognitiveRevolutionPodcast

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution-ai-builders-researchers-and/id1669813431

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yHyok3M3BjqzR0VB5MSyk
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    AI:AM #3: Zvi on Fable, the Cases For & Against the Ban, + AI for Math, Logistics & More

    06/21/2026 | 2h 14 mins.
    Zvi Mowshowitz joins AI in the AM to unpack Anthropic's Fable system card, including its FrontierMath leap, troubling Vending-Bench behavior, decision-theory drift, and signs that model reasoning may be becoming harder to read. The episode then turns to the US government's attempted export-control action against Fable, with Zvi arguing that the cited jailbreak demonstration did not prove the claimed threat while still faulting Anthropic's political handling. Sam Hammond and Judd Rosenblatt add competing reads on state capacity, CAISI, NSA-driven caution, and the alignment world's failure to build trust across partisan lines. The stakes are whether frontier AI capability, safety evaluation, and government power can be coordinated before medicine, mathematics, software, and cyber-relevant systems move further ahead.

    For full show notes, links, and references, read the episode page:https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/ai-am-3-zvi-on-fable-the-cases-for-against-the-ban-ai-for-math-logistics-more/
    Mercury: Command is Mercury’s new conversational interface, giving you natural-language access to your finances and helping you take actions within your existing permissions and approval policies. Visit https://mercury.com to learn more and apply online in minutes.
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    CHAPTERS:

    (00:00) About the Episode

    (01:28) Special Sponsor

    (03:17) Weekly highlights preview

    (05:23) Fable capability alarms

    (16:29) Anthropic government strategy (Part 1)

    (16:34) Sponsor: Claude

    (18:26) Anthropic government strategy (Part 2)

    (27:16) Cyber ban rationale

    (37:14) Government power politics

    (48:57) Unavoidable control risks

    (01:01:42) Government mechanics and empathy

    (01:12:50) Legal authority limits

    (01:19:02) Pause Overton window

    (01:31:58) Medicine, math, safety

    (01:47:27) Software without code

    (02:01:19) Enterprise world models

    (02:10:46) Episode Outro

    (02:13:39) Outro

    PRODUCED BY:

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    SOCIAL LINKS:

    Website: https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai

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    Youtube: https://youtube.com/@CognitiveRevolutionPodcast

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution-ai-builders-researchers-and/id1669813431

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yHyok3M3BjqzR0VB5MSyk
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    Dean Ball, on Joining OpenAI: New Power Centers, Frontier AI Policy, & Main Character Energy

    06/20/2026 | 2h 39 mins.
    Dean Ball, author of Hyperdimensional and until now a senior fellow at the Foundation for American Innovation, joins Nathan to announce he is joining OpenAI to build a team focused on frontier AI policy. They examine the first year of America’s AI Action Plan, Dean’s concerns about export controls and intelligence-community testing, and his broader argument against concentrating frontier AI decisions inside a small circle of government officials. The episode frames frontier labs as emerging centers of political and economic power, where consequential choices about internal deployments and recursive self-improvement may happen before public release or regulation. The stakes are who gets to shape AI governance as capabilities accelerate: federal agencies, states, labs, independent verifiers, households, or some fragile mix of them all.

    For full show notes, links, and references, read the episode page:https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/dean-ball-on-joining-openai-new-power-centers-frontier-ai-policy-main-character-energy/
    Mercury: Command is Mercury’s new conversational interface, giving you natural-language access to your finances and helping you take actions within your existing permissions and approval policies. Visit https://mercury.com to learn more and apply online in minutes.
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    Claude:
    Claude by Anthropic is an AI collaborator that understands your workflow and helps you tackle research, writing, coding, and organization with deep context. Get started with Claude and explore Claude Pro at https://claude.ai/tcr

    PRODUCED BY:

    https://aipodcast.ing

    SOCIAL LINKS:

    Website: https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai

    Twitter (Podcast): https://x.com/cogrev_podcast

    Twitter (Nathan): https://x.com/labenz

    LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/nathanlabenz/

    Youtube: https://youtube.com/@CognitiveRevolutionPodcast

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution-ai-builders-researchers-and/id1669813431

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yHyok3M3BjqzR0VB5MSyk
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About "The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis
A biweekly podcast where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years. The Cognitive Revolution is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: turpentine.co
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