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"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

Erik Torenberg, Nathan Labenz
"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis
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  • "The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

    Pioneering PAI: How Daniel Miessler's Personal AI Infrastructure Activates Human Agency & Creativity

    1/18/2026 | 2h 28 mins.
    Daniel Miessler shares his Personal AI Infrastructure (PAI) framework and vision for a future where single human owners are supported by armies of AI agents. He explains his TELOS system for defining purpose and goals, multi-layered memory design, and orchestration of multiple models and sub-agents. The conversation dives into cybersecurity impacts, from AI-accelerated testing to inevitable personalized spear-phishing and always-on defensive monitoring. Listeners will learn how scaffolding can turn frontier models into true digital assistants and even help reshape their own working habits.

    LINKS:

    PAI principles on GitHub README

    Daniel Miessler about page

    How Miessler's projects fit together

    AI changes predictions for 2026

    Fabric open-source AI framework

    Personal AI Infrastructure GitHub repository

    Current definition of AGI article

    Why we'll have AGI by 2028

    RAID AI definitions framework article

    Unsupervised Learning newsletter signup

    Daniel Miessler LinkedIn profile

    Sponsors:

    MongoDB:
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    MATS:
    MATS is a fully funded 12-week research program pairing rising talent with top mentors in AI alignment, interpretability, security, and governance. Apply for the next cohort at https://matsprogram.org/s26-tcr

    Tasklet:
    Tasklet is an AI agent that automates your work 24/7; just describe what you want in plain English and it gets the job done. Try it for free and use code COGREV for 50% off your first month at https://tasklet.ai

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  • "The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

    Snowflake VP of AI Baris Gultekin on Bringing AI to Data, Agent Design, Text-2-SQL, RAG & More

    1/14/2026 | 1h 39 mins.
    Baris Gultekin, VP of AI at Snowflake, explains how “bringing AI to the data” is reshaping enterprise AI deployment under strict security and governance requirements. PSA for AI builders: Interested in alignment, governance, or AI safety? Learn more about the MATS Summer 2026 Fellowship and submit your name to be notified when applications open: https://matsprogram.org/s26-tcr. He shares the importance of bringing AI directly to governed enterprise data, advances in text-to-SQL and semantic modeling, and why high-quality retrieval is foundational for trustworthy AI agents. Baris also dives into Snowflake’s approach to agentic AI, including Snowflake Intelligence, model choice and cost tradeoffs, and why governance, security, and open standards are essential as AI becomes accessible to every business user.

    LINKS:

    AWS' Automated Reasoning checks

    Sponsors:

    MongoDB:

    Tired of database limitations and architectures that break when you scale? MongoDB is the database built for developers, by developers—ACID compliant, enterprise-ready, and fluent in AI—so you can start building faster at https://mongodb.com/build

    Serval:

    Serval uses AI-powered automations to cut IT help desk tickets by more than 50%, freeing your team from repetitive tasks like password resets and onboarding. Book your free pilot and guarantee 50% help desk automation by week four at https://serval.com/cognitive

    MATS:

    MATS is a fully funded 12-week research program pairing rising talent with top mentors in AI alignment, interpretability, security, and governance. Apply for the next cohort at https://matsprogram.org/s26-tcr

    Tasklet:

    Tasklet is an AI agent that automates your work 24/7; just describe what you want in plain English and it gets the job done. Try it for free and use code COGREV for 50% off your first month at https://tasklet.ai

    CHAPTERS:

    (00:00) About the Episode

    (03:02) Snowflake 101 and AI

    (09:25) Text-to-SQL and semantics

    (19:10) RAG, embeddings and models (Part 1)

    (19:17) Sponsors: MongoDB | Serval

    (21:02) RAG, embeddings and models (Part 2)

    (32:23) Bringing models to data (Part 1)

    (32:29) Sponsors: MATS | Tasklet

    (35:29) Bringing models to data (Part 2)

    (51:14) Designing enterprise AI agents

    (58:35) Trust, governance and guardrails

    (01:07:14) Agents and future work

    (01:15:33) Platforms, competition and value

    (01:26:04) Enterprise models and outlook

    (01:40:00) Outro

    PRODUCED BY:

    https://aipodcast.ing
  • "The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

    AMA Part 1: Is Claude Code AGI? Are we in a bubble? Plus Live Player Analysis

    1/09/2026 | 1h 54 mins.
    In this AMA episode, Nathan gives an update on his son Ernie’s cancer treatment and how frontier AI models are helping him navigate complex medical decisions. PSA for AI builders: Interested in alignment, governance, or AI safety? Learn more about the MATS Summer 2026 Fellowship and submit your name to be notified when applications open: https://matsprogram.org/s26-tcr. He reflects on whether Claude Opus 4.5 and Claude Code amount to AGI-level coding, sharing stories of hospital vibe coding apps for his family. You’ll hear his framework for getting real value from Gemini 3, Claude, and GPT 5.2 Pro, plus his take on AI bubbles, Chinese models, chip controls, and who the true live players are in today’s AI race.

    Sponsors:

    MongoDB:
    Tired of database limitations and architectures that break when you scale? MongoDB is the database built for developers, by developers—ACID compliant, enterprise-ready, and fluent in AI—so you can start building faster at https://mongodb.com/build

    Framer:
    Framer is an enterprise-grade website builder that lets business teams design, launch, and optimize their.com with AI-powered wireframing, real-time collaboration, and built-in analytics. Start building for free and get 30% off a Framer Pro annual plan at https://framer.com/cognitive

    Tasklet:
    Tasklet is an AI agent that automates your work 24/7; just describe what you want in plain English and it gets the job done. Try it for free and use code COGREV for 50% off your first month at https://tasklet.ai

    CHAPTERS:

    (00:00) AMA intro format

    (00:22) Ernie health update

    (09:24) Claude 4.5 question (Part 1)

    (09:29) Sponsors: MongoDB | Framer

    (11:21) Claude 4.5 question (Part 2)

    (13:21) Using AI for cancer

    (19:48) AI value and skill

    (22:10) Holiday coding projects (Part 1)

    (22:15) Sponsor: Tasklet

    (23:27) Holiday coding projects (Part 2)

    (28:01) Claude code workflow

    (32:03) Is Claude 4.5 AGI

    (36:04) AI bubble or not

    (41:22) VC froth examples

    (46:09) Chinese models comparison

    (55:29) H200 exports to China

    (01:03:40) Google DeepMind strengths

    (01:11:55) OpenAI strategy outlook

    (01:22:51) Anthropic culture and strategy

    (01:36:17) XAI promise and risks

    (01:48:20) Meta and Microsoft

    (01:52:29) Part two preview

    (01:53:39) Outro

    PRODUCED BY:

    https://aipodcast.ing

    SOCIAL LINKS:

    Website: https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai

    Twitter (Podcast): https://x.com/cogrev_podcast

    Twitter (Nathan): https://x.com/labenz

    LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/nathanlabenz/

    Youtube: https://youtube.com/@CognitiveRevolutionPodcast

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution-ai-builders-researchers-and/id1669813431

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yHyok3M3BjqzR0VB5MSyk
  • "The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

    Building & Scaling the AI Safety Research Community, with Ryan Kidd of MATS

    1/04/2026 | 1h 54 mins.
    Ryan Kidd, Co-Executive Director of MATS, shares an inside view of the AI safety field and the world’s largest AI safety research talent pipeline. PSA for AI builders: Interested in alignment, governance, or AI safety? Learn more about the MATS Summer 2026 Fellowship and submit your name to be notified when applications open: https://matsprogram.org/s26-tcr. He discusses AGI timelines, the blurred line between safety and capabilities work, and why expert disagreement remains so high. In the second half, Ryan breaks down MATS’ research archetypes, what top AI safety organizations are looking for, and how applicants can stand out with the right projects, skills, and career strategy.

    Sponsors:

    Tasklet:
    Tasklet is an AI agent that automates your work 24/7; just describe what you want in plain English and it gets the job done. Try it for free and use code COGREV for 50% off your first month at https://tasklet.ai

    Agents of Scale:
    Agents of Scale is a podcast from Zapier CEO Wade Foster, featuring conversations with C-suite leaders who are leading AI transformation. Subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcasts

    Shopify:
    Shopify powers millions of businesses worldwide, handling 10% of U.S. e-commerce. With hundreds of templates, AI tools for product descriptions, and seamless marketing campaign creation, it's like having a design studio and marketing team in one. Start your $1/month trial today at https://shopify.com/cognitive

    CHAPTERS:

    (00:00) About the Episode

    (03:50) MATS mission, AGI timelines

    (13:43) Evaluating current AI safety (Part 1)

    (13:48) Sponsor: Tasklet

    (14:59) Evaluating current AI safety (Part 2) (Part 1)

    (28:11) Sponsors: Agents of Scale | Shopify

    (30:58) Evaluating current AI safety (Part 2) (Part 2)

    (30:59) Safety research versus capabilities

    (40:01) Frontier labs, deployment, governance

    (51:51) MATS tracks and governance

    (01:04:11) Research archetypes and tooling

    (01:12:25) Labor market and careers

    (01:20:09) Applicant selection and preparation

    (01:29:33) Admissions, salaries, and compute

    (01:40:34) Future programs and paradigms

    (01:54:11) Outro

    PRODUCED BY:

    https://aipodcast.ing

    SOCIAL LINKS:

    Website: https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai

    Twitter (Podcast): https://x.com/cogrev_podcast

    Twitter (Nathan): https://x.com/labenz

    LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/nathanlabenz/

    Youtube: https://youtube.com/@CognitiveRevolutionPodcast

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution-ai-builders-researchers-and/id1669813431

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yHyok3M3BjqzR0VB5MSyk
  • "The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

    Confronting the Intelligence Curse, w/ Luke Drago of Workshop Labs, from the FLI Podcast

    1/01/2026 | 1h 16 mins.
    This cross-post episode from the Future of Life Institute podcast features Luke Drago, co-author of The Intelligence Curse and co-founder of Workshop Labs, in conversation with Gus Docker. PSA for AI builders: Interested in alignment, governance, or AI safety? Learn more about the MATS Summer 2026 Fellowship and submit your name to be notified when applications open: https://matsprogram.org/s26-tcr. They explore whether it’s wise to build AI systems that directly compete with and potentially replace humans as economic actors, and how this could create an “Intelligence Curse” where those who control AI gain extreme power. Luke outlines societal strategies like open-source AI, company-level design principles that keep users in control of their data, and personal tactics such as N-of-1 careers and pursuing moonshot projects early.

    Sponsors:

    MATS:
    MATS is a fully funded 12-week research program pairing rising talent with top mentors in AI alignment, interpretability, security, and governance. Apply for the next cohort at https://matsprogram.org/s26-tcr

    Tasklet:
    Tasklet is an AI agent that automates your work 24/7; just describe what you want in plain English and it gets the job done. Try it for free and use code COGREV for 50% off your first month at https://tasklet.ai

    Agents of Scale:
    Agents of Scale is a podcast from Zapier CEO Wade Foster, featuring conversations with C-suite leaders who are leading AI transformation. Subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcasts

    Shopify:
    Shopify powers millions of businesses worldwide, handling 10% of U.S. e-commerce. With hundreds of templates, AI tools for product descriptions, and seamless marketing campaign creation, it's like having a design studio and marketing team in one. Start your $1/month trial today at https://shopify.com/cognitive

    CHAPTERS:

    (00:00) About the Episode

    (03:07) Defining The Intelligence Curse

    (09:34) Pyramid Replacement And Work (Part 1)

    (15:55) Sponsors: MATS | Tasklet

    (18:55) Pyramid Replacement And Work (Part 2)

    (25:29) Local Knowledge, Data Control

    (33:58) Dystopian Intelligence Curse Future (Part 1)

    (34:04) Sponsors: Agents of Scale | Shopify

    (36:52) Dystopian Intelligence Curse Future (Part 2)

    (48:07) Open, Safe AI Futures

    (01:02:47) Loyal Agents Versus Ads

    (01:14:06) Moonshots Over Safe Paths

    (01:17:49) Outro

    PRODUCED BY:

    https://aipodcast.ing

    SOCIAL LINKS:

    Website: https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai

    Twitter (Podcast): https://x.com/cogrev_podcast

    Twitter (Nathan): https://x.com/labenz

    LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/nathanlabenz/

    Youtube: https://youtube.com/@CognitiveRevolutionPodcast

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution-ai-builders-researchers-and/id1669813431

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yHyok3M3BjqzR0VB5MSyk

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A biweekly podcast where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years. The Cognitive Revolution is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: turpentine.co
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