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Sonia Kahlon and Kathleen Killen
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    Bad Marriage Advice and Better Ways to Connect with Monica Tanner

    09/21/2026 | 47 mins.
    On Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia welcomes relationship coach, author, and podcast host Monica Tanner to explore conflict, emotional safety, and intimacy when alcohol is no longer the escape hatch. Together, they explore how to ask for support, navigate difficult conversations, and reconnect through change.

    Does “never go to bed angry” actually help? When does communication become criticism? What happens when drinking or scrolling becomes a way to disappear during conflict? Sonia and Monica explore resentment, sober relationships, and talking about sex without turning the conversation into a performance.

    Monica introduces relational life therapy concepts, including protective childhood patterns, the emotional “whoosh,” and choosing a response with greater awareness. She shares examples of clear requests, healthy boundaries, side-by-side intimacy conversations, and small routines that create space for connection.

    Monica also shares how her parents’ divorce shaped her interest in relationships, why late-night arguments brought up fears of abandonment, and how a simple request for reassurance changed those moments in her marriage. Her son’s approaching wedding became the inspiration for her book.

    This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources.

    Monica’s Links

    🌐 Monica Tanner’s Website
    🎙️ Secrets of Happily Ever After Podcast
    📖 Bad Marriage Advice

    SIS Links

    💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen
    📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email
    📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram
    🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast
    📸 Kathleen’s Instagram

    Timestamped Highlights

    01:00 — Meet relationship coach Monica Tanner.
    02:00 — The divorce that reshaped her idea of marriage.
    04:00 — Rethinking “never go to bed angry.”
    06:00 — Asking for reassurance before taking a break.
    08:00 — Relationship maintenance before a crisis.
    11:00 — Why conflict can block familiar communication skills.
    14:00 — Recognizing protective patterns and boundaries.
    16:00 — Teaching a partner how to love you well.
    18:00 — Small requests before resentment builds.
    20:00 — Asking for listening instead of solutions.
    23:00 — Making requests without criticism.
    25:00 — Withdrawal, fawning, and old survival strategies.
    26:00 — Sonia on alcohol, conflict, and getting sober.
    28:00 — Withdrawing in plain sight.
    30:00 — Pausing during the emotional “whoosh.”
    34:00 — Making space for conversations about sex.
    38:00 — Exploring a broader definition of intimacy.
    41:00 — When deeper relationship problems need help first.
    45:00 — Monica’s routines for regular connection.
    46:00 — Couples work, intensives, and closing reflections.
  • Sisters In Sobriety

    Good Enough Daughtering With Dr. Allison Alford

    09/14/2026 | 51 mins.
    In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia explores the invisible work adult daughters perform to keep families connected. With communication scholar, Baylor professor and Good Daughtering author Dr. Allison M. Alford. Dr. Alford helps women recognize how family roles can shape self-worth, perfectionism, resentment and coping.

    Why are daughters so often expected to organize, anticipate needs and smooth over conflict? How do culture, birth order and family expectations influence daughtering? And why can a son receive enormous praise for a small gesture while a daughter feels she is always falling short?

    Dr. Alford defines daughtering as the mental, emotional, logistical and identity work daughters do for their families. She explains how to make that labor visible, establish boundaries without turning them into ultimatums, distinguish venting from rumination and replace impossible A+ expectations with a sustainable B+ standard.

    She also shares how her own family relationships changed when she stopped building connection around complaints and enlisted her husband, children and sister in creating new conversation patterns. Her message is simple: every woman is already a good-enough daughter and has agency in deciding how that role will fit into her life.

    This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources.

    Dr. Alford’s Links

    🌐 Daughtering 101 Website
    📕 Good Daughtering
    📸 Instagram

    SIS Links

    💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen
    📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email
    📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram
    🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast
    📸 Kathleen’s Instagram

    Timestamped Highlights
    01:00 — Dr. Allison Alford introduces her work on daughtering
    05:00 — Defining the overlooked cost of being a good daughter
    07:00 — Why women’s caring roles are so often called mothering
    10:00 — Honoring daughterhood as a distinct part of identity
    12:00 — Choosing how fully to show up in family roles
    14:00 — Daughters as the behind-the-scenes family CEOs
    16:00 — How daughter conditioning develops from childhood
    18:00 — Why sons receive praise for exceeding lower expectations
    22:00 — Culture, geography and privilege shape daughtering
    24:00 — The unspoken rules daughters are expected to follow
    27:00 — How impossible standards create a fog of failure
    30:00 — Creating a personal B+ daughter rubric
    32:00 — The relationship between resentment and self-abandonment
    34:00 — Boundaries as fences around emotional and physical space
    36:00 — Recognizing when family venting becomes rumination
    38:00 — Communicating a boundary once—and following through
    40:00 — Making invisible daughtering labor visible
    43:00 — Building a Plan B for healthier family conversations
    46:00 — Eldest and only daughters face distinct pressures
    50:00 — Every daughter gets to decide what “good enough” means
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    Writing a Joyful Recovery Story with Kerri Maher

    09/07/2026 | 55 mins.
    In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia explores the connection between sobriety, creativity, and reinvention with Kerri Maher, the USA Today bestselling author of The Paris Bookseller and The Kennedy Debutante. Kerri discusses her four years of sobriety and her deeply personal new novel, Summer of Love, set in California and centered on addiction, family, recovery, and hope.

    What happens when someone’s drinking does not produce a cinematic rock bottom, but no longer feels sustainable? How can people find recovery support outside traditional 12-step programs? Sonia and Kerri discuss sober identity, online community, emotional sobriety, belonging, and the many different paths people can take toward changing their relationship with alcohol.

    Kerri explains how The Luckiest Club helped her find her people, why sobriety and writing are both daily practices, and how greater clarity changed her creative and professional decisions. She also shares how The Artist’s Way, morning pages, artist dates, and an “adjacent art” with no pressure attached helped her develop Summer of Love.

    Kerri’s story reveals a quieter, joyful vision of recovery: clear mornings, renewed confidence, richer emotions, and the freedom to experience places such as Napa beyond their drinking culture. She also reflects on generational addiction, “good girl” identity, sober travel, and writing a novel that allows recovery to be hopeful rather than punishing.

    This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources.

    Kerri’s Links

    📚 Summer of Love
    📸 Instagram: @kerrimaherwriter

    SIS Links

    💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen
    📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email
    📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram
    🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast
    📸 Kathleen’s Instagram

    Timestamped Highlights
    01:00 — Kerri introduces her sobriety and Summer of Love
    04:00 — The small moments that made Kerri question her drinking
    05:00 — An early 15-to-18-month period without alcohol
    08:00 — How The Luckiest Club began and became Kerri’s community
    10:00 — Finding accessible support during the sandwich-generation years
    14:00 — Is recovery’s “special sauce” the program or the community?
    17:00 — Emotional sobriety, anger management, and continued inner work
    19:00 — Writing and sobriety as practices built through repetition
    21:00 — How alcohol created subtle brain fog without stopping productivity
    26:00 — The personal origins of Summer of Love
    28:00 — Morning pages bring the book’s characters and plot together
    31:00 — Watercolor play as relaxing, pressure-free creativity
    33:00 — Writing about recovery as joyful rather than punishing
    35:00 — Clear mornings and dependable presence as everyday sober joy
    43:00 — Exploring generational patterns of addiction
    46:00 — Looking beyond wine culture in Napa Valley
    49:00 — Rediscovering California through food, landscape, and connection
    53:00 — Sober travel and experiencing mornings without a hangover
    54:00 — Kerri’s message to sober and sober-curious readers
    55:00 — Closing the conversation
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    Mystical Mocktails: Drinking With Intention With Julia Hadas

    08/31/2026 | 1h 1 mins.
    On this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia explores how alcohol-free drinks can become meaningful rituals rather than consolation prizes with bestselling author and mixologist Julia Halina Hadas, whose book Mystical Mocktails combines zero-proof recipes with intention, connection and everyday magic.

    What makes a mocktail feel complete? How can flavor, aroma, temperature and glassware change the experience? Julia explains why people often seek more than alcohol from a drink—and how a thoughtfully made alternative can offer beauty, pleasure and social connection without the buzz.

    The conversation covers practical building blocks such as citrus, sweeteners, tea, coconut water, herbs, spices and garnishes. Julia shares how mint can suggest renewal, maple and black tea can feel grounding, and rose can represent connection. She also explains how to prevent watery tea-based drinks, balance sweetness and acidity, order creatively at a bar and pair affirmations with the physical act of drinking.

    Julia also reflects on pregnancy, her husband’s sobriety and the importance of recognizing when alcohol-removed products feel triggering. She shares how creating her Rose of Remembrance recipe unexpectedly helped her process grief following her father’s death—showing how an intentional drink can hold memory, emotion and healing.

    This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources.

    Julia’s Links
    Website: WitchCraft Cocktails
    Instagram: @witchcraftcocktail
    Book: Mystical Mocktails

    SIS Links
    💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen
    📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email
    📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram
    🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast
    📸 Kathleen’s Instagram

    Timestamped highlights
    01:00 — Meet bestselling author and mixologist Julia Halina Hadas
    02:00 — Making zero-proof drinks before nonalcoholic spirits were widely available
    04:00 — Seeking connection and a change in feeling through drinks
    06:00 — Bringing herbs and intention into mixology
    07:00 — Magic, spirituality and reclaiming personal power
    09:00 — Using maple and black tea to create a grounding drink
    11:00 — The Rose of Remembrance recipe and processing grief
    12:00 — Why yuzu can transform an alcohol-free drink
    14:00 — How garnishes and aroma elevate the experience
    17:00 — Mint, cucumber, strawberry, basil and rose as intentional ingredients
    20:00 — Preventing tea-based mocktails from becoming watery
    22:00 — Adding cardamom, cinnamon, nutmeg and clove
    25:00 — The color-changing magic of butterfly pea flower
    27:00 — Tea ceremonies, presence and the Jasmine Peace Potion
    30:00 — Making drink preparation part of a personal ritual
    32:00 — Why glassware can make an ordinary moment feel special
    35:00 — The cup as a symbol of what a person welcomes into their life
    39:00 — Pairing affirmations with the physical act of drinking
    47:00 — How to order a more interesting mocktail at a bar
    56:00 — Protecting sobriety when alcohol-removed drinks feel triggering
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    The Midlife Body With Dr. Shawna Darou

    08/24/2026 | 1h 7 mins.
    Midlife can make a woman feel as though her body has suddenly changed the rules—but those changes are not a personal failure, and they are not “just aging.” In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia and Kathleen help unpack the relationship between perimenopause, metabolic health, alcohol, blood sugar, stress and movement with Dr. Shawna Darou, ND. A naturopathic doctor with more than 20 years of experience, Dr. Darou translates complex women’s health information into clear, practical steps for building strength and vitality through midlife and beyond.

    Why does alcohol suddenly hit harder in midlife? What do belly weight, brain fog, disrupted sleep, afternoon fatigue and persistent food noise reveal about insulin resistance? How can women use GLP-1 medications and continuous glucose monitors more responsibly—and why can excessive fasting or carbohydrate restriction backfire? The conversation also explores sugar cravings in early sobriety, chronic stress, menopause and the habits that support long-term metabolic health.

    Dr. Darou explains why menopause is a metabolic transition, not only an estrogen transition; how alcohol interrupts nighttime blood sugar regulation and fat oxidation; and why muscle acts as a “metabolic sink.” She shares a realistic starting point: prioritize protein, add daily movement, walk after meals and build strength gradually. Flexible consistency, proper recovery and movement that feels genuinely enjoyable matter more than perfection.

    Dr. Darou also shares her unexpected evolution from engineer to naturopathic doctor—and from someone who did not identify as an athlete to a competitive runner who began racing at 50. Her story challenges narrow ideas about aging and shows how confidence, community and ambitious new goals can emerge later in life.

    This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources.

    Timestamp Highlights

    01:00 — Meet Dr. Shawna Darou
    02:00 — From engineering to women’s health
    05:00 — The pandemic’s metabolic impact
    06:00 — Movement as a longevity lever
    07:00 — Becoming an athlete at 49
    09:00 — Why women over 40 need new possibilities
    13:00 — Metabolic health beyond weight
    15:00 — Early signs of metabolic dysfunction
    17:00 — How insulin resistance fuels cravings
    18:00 — Reversing dysfunction without diet culture
    20:00 — GLP-1 benefits and risks
    23:00 — Why midlife changes the rules
    26:00 — Using a continuous glucose monitor responsibly
    32:00 — Chronic stress and blood sugar
    35:00 — What alcohol does metabolically
    38:00 — Why alcohol hits harder in midlife
    39:00 — Sugar cravings in early recovery
    41:00 — The “yes with a boundary” approach
    47:00 — Protein and post-meal movement
    56:00 — Flexible consistency, intensity and recovery

    Dr. Darou’s Links

    Website — www.drshawnadarou.com
    Instagram — @drshawnadarou

    SIS Links

    💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen

    📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email

    📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram

    🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast

    📸 Kathleen’s Instagram
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About Sisters In Sobriety
You know that sinking feeling when you wake up with a hangover and think: “I’m never doing this again”? We’ve all been there. But what happens when you follow through? Sonia Kahlon and Kathleen Killen can tell you, because they did it! They went from sisters-in-law, to Sisters in Sobriety. In this podcast, Sonia and Kathleen invite you into their world, as they navigate the ups and downs of sobriety, explore stories of personal growth and share their journey of wellness and recovery. Get ready for some real, honest conversations about sobriety, addiction, and everything in between. Episodes will cover topics such as: reaching emotional sobriety, how to make the decision to get sober, adopting a more mindful lifestyle, socializing without alcohol, and much more. Whether you’re sober-curious, seeking inspiration and self-care through sobriety, or embracing the alcohol-free lifestyle already… Tune in for a weekly dose of vulnerability, mutual support and much needed comic relief. Together...
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