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Sisters In Sobriety

Sonia Kahlon and Kathleen Killen
Sisters In Sobriety
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  • Sisters In Sobriety

    Why You’re Still Inflamed - Even If You’re Doing Everything “Right” With Dr. Shivani Gupta

    04/20/2026 | 51 mins.
    Inflammation is at the root of so many modern health struggles—but what if the way we approach it is completely backwards? In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia sits down with Dr. Shivani Gupta—Ayurvedic practitioner, functional health expert, and author of The Inflammation Code—to explore a radically personalized approach to healing. Sonia guides listeners through how inflammation shows up in daily life, how stress and lifestyle habits quietly fuel it, and how Dr. Gupta’s “Elemental Design” framework helps decode each person’s unique health blueprint.

    The conversation dives into how different body types respond to stress, food, and alcohol, and why a one-size-fits-all wellness plan often fails. Questions unfold around how mental inflammation contributes to physical disease, how gut health connects to energy and mood, and why sleep, circadian rhythm, and daily rituals may matter more than the latest health trend. The episode also explores the real impact of alcohol on gut permeability and inflammation, and how habits like late-night eating, blue light exposure, and chronic stress quietly disrupt the body’s natural healing processes.

    Throughout the episode, Dr. Gupta introduces key concepts like chronic low-grade inflammation, bio-individuality, and the connection between the microbiome and overall health. She explains how ancient Ayurvedic principles align with modern science—from circadian rhythm optimization to the role of super spices like turmeric in reducing inflammation. The discussion weaves in practical insights on improving sleep hygiene, supporting the gut microbiome, managing cortisol, and using simple daily rituals—like tea, breathwork, or structured routines—to regulate the nervous system and reduce inflammation at its source.

    As the conversation unfolds, Dr. Gupta shares her deeply personal journey—from growing up between Western medicine and Ayurvedic traditions to a turning point that led her to reject overmedication and seek root-cause healing. That experience sparked decades of study and ultimately shaped her mission to bring ancient healing wisdom into modern life in a practical, accessible way. The episode closes with a powerful reminder that healing doesn’t require perfection—it starts with small, intentional shifts that bring the body back into balance.

    This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources.

    00:00 Introduction to Dr. Shivani Gupta and The Inflammation Code
    02:00 Growing up between Western medicine and Ayurveda
    03:00 The breaking point with overmedication and antibiotics
    04:30 Discovering Ayurveda and root-cause healing
    06:00 Turmeric and the science behind super spices
    08:00 What “Elemental Design” means for your health
    10:00 Understanding Vata, Pitta, and Kapha body types
    12:00 How different constitutions experience inflammation
    14:00 Autoimmune conditions and personalized health patterns
    17:00 Circadian rhythm and its role in inflammation
    18:30 How sleep impacts detoxification and healing
    20:00 Building a realistic sleep routine
    22:00 Ideal sleep environment and temperature
    23:30 Common mistakes with turmeric and anti-inflammatory diets
    25:00 Chronic inflammation and modern lifestyle stressors
    27:00 Supplements vs. whole foods: what actually works
    31:00 What is “mental inflammation”?
    33:00 Stress, burnout, and disease connection
    35:00 Gut health, microbiome, and daily habits
    37:00 Alcohol’s impact on gut health and inflammation
    40:00 How different body types respond to alcohol
    43:00 Tools for relaxation without alcohol
    47:00 The most important first step: prioritizing sleep

     

    Dr. Shivani's Links

    www.shivanigupta.com
    IG: @dr.shivanigupta

    SIS Links

    💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen

    📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email

    📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram

    🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast

    📸 Kathleen’s Instagram
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    Is Addiction Written in the Stars? With Astrologist Jessica Lanyadoo

    04/13/2026 | 1h
    Addiction, astrology, and emotional healing take center stage in this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, as Sonia sits down with humanistic astrologer Jessica Lanyadoo. Together, they unpack how addiction isn’t just about substances—it’s about emotional patterns, coping mechanisms, and the ways we abandon ourselves. Jessica brings a grounded, no-nonsense approach to astrology, helping Sonia explore how tools like astrology, community, and self-awareness can support sobriety and long-term healing.

    What role does emotional regulation play in addiction? Can astrology reveal patterns behind compulsive behaviors or anxiety? How do dopamine-driven habits like scrolling or shopping mirror substance use? Sonia and Kathleen guide the conversation through big questions around fate vs. free will, the psychology of addiction, and whether spiritual tools—like astrology—can become coping mechanisms themselves. The discussion also explores the complexities of recovery spaces, including the benefits and challenges of 12-step programs, shame, and accountability.

    The conversation weaves together concepts like harm reduction, emotional processing, and the neuroscience of addiction. Jessica introduces the idea that addiction is often rooted in an inability to tolerate feelings, rather than a lack of willpower. She breaks down how different types of anxiety and coping behaviors can manifest, and how misdiagnosis—both psychologically and personally—can keep people stuck. The idea of “momentum” becomes a powerful framework: how addictive behaviors build quickly, while healing and self-connection require slower, intentional practice.

    Through personal reflections, Sonia shares moments from her own sobriety journey—navigating divorce, resisting the urge to drink, and recognizing how other behaviors can mimic addiction. The episode shifts into a deeper, more vulnerable space as they explore recovery tools like AA, the concept of “dry drunk” vs. true sobriety, and the emotional weight of making amends. Jessica offers a nuanced take on “living amends,” boundaries, and why healing doesn’t always require direct reconciliation—sometimes it requires protecting yourself while still taking accountability.

    This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources.

    Highlights

    00:00 – Introduction to Jessica Lanyadoo and her humanistic approach
    01:15 – What humanistic astrology actually means
    03:00 – Addiction beyond substances: emotional and behavioral patterns
    05:30 – Astrology’s perspective on different types of addiction
    08:15 – Dopamine, escapism, and modern-day addictive behaviors
    09:30 – Can astrology become a coping mechanism?
    10:45 – Is addiction fate or free will?
    12:30 – Physiological vs. emotional components of addiction
    14:00 – Different types of anxiety and how they show up
    16:30 – Misdiagnosis and why some treatments don’t work
    17:45 – The concept of momentum in addiction vs. healing
    19:00 – “Dry drunk” vs. true sobriety
    20:00 – Why AA works (and why it doesn’t for everyone)
    22:00 – Shame, community, and healing in recovery spaces
    24:00 – The complexity of group dynamics in AA
    26:30 – Boundaries, triggers, and navigating recovery communities
    28:00 – The truth about making amends
    29:30 – What are “living amends”?
    31:30 – Trauma, safety, and when not to reconnect
    34:00 – Self-abandonment and taking personal accountability

     

    Jessica's Links

    Ghost of a Podcast 

    Access free horoscopes + other goodies and classes available for purchase at lovelanyadoo.com

     

    SIS Links

    💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen

    📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email

    📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram

    🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast

    📸 Kathleen’s Instagram
  • Sisters In Sobriety

    What Healthcare Gets Wrong About Addiction With Dr. Emma

    04/06/2026 | 37 mins.
    Sonia sits down with Dr. Emma Kay, professor at the University of Alabama at Birmingham School of Nursing and a nationally recognized researcher focused on HIV care, substance use, harm reduction, and recovery. Together, they unpack the intersection of addiction, stigma, and healthcare systems, and explore how a more compassionate, whole-person approach can change outcomes. Sonia guides this conversation to help reframe how we think about recovery, disclosure, and what meaningful care actually looks like in practice.

    The discussion moves beyond surface-level conversations about addiction and into the realities people face navigating HIV, substance use, and medical systems that often prioritize one condition over another. Questions emerge around why patients don’t disclose substance use, how stigma subtly shows up in healthcare settings, whether abstinence-only models are limiting recovery options, and what happens when providers assume noncompliance. It also touches on the gap between medical innovation and lived patient experience, especially when it comes to trust, access, and education.

    The conversation highlights how recovery is often non-linear, why patient autonomy matters, and how small behavioral shifts can represent meaningful progress. It also sheds light on systemic barriers including cost, lack of education in medical training, and disparities tied to race, geography, and socioeconomic status. The contrast between rapid advancements in HIV treatment and the slower evolution of addiction care reveals where healthcare systems are still falling short.

    Sonia and Dr. Kay also talk about—what it actually looks like when patients feel seen, heard, and respected versus judged or dismissed. From early moments in an HIV clinic filled with unexpected vulnerability to broader reflections on stigma and resilience, the episode brings forward the emotional and relational side of care that often gets overlooked in clinical conversations.

    This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources.

    Highlights

    00:00 Introduction to Dr. Emma Kay and her work

    01:00 Dr. Kay’s non-traditional path into social work and research

    02:30 First experiences in an HIV clinic and shifting perspectives

    04:00 Understanding HIV as a chronic condition vs stigma

    05:30 The overlap between HIV and substance use

    06:30 Risk factors and misconceptions about HIV transmission

    07:30 Early experiences with patient vulnerability and resilience

    09:00 Abstinence-based models vs harm reduction realities

    10:30 Lack of harm reduction resources in certain regions

    11:30 Why patients don’t disclose substance use

    12:30 Gaps in education around harm reduction

    13:30 What relational harm reduction actually means

    15:00 Key principles: autonomy, humanism, pragmatism

    16:30 Incremental progress and redefining success in recovery

    17:30 Why recovery is rarely linear

    19:00 Whole-person care and addressing underlying needs

    21:00 Subtle stigma in healthcare settings

    22:30 Misconceptions about adherence and drug use

    24:00 Harm reduction vs abstinence models

    25:30 Aging population with HIV and comorbidities

    27:00 Treating HIV like any other chronic condition

    28:30 Innovation in HIV care vs addiction care

    30:00 Disparities in overdose rates and access to care

    32:00 Trust gaps in marginalized communities

    34:00 The role of community-led solutions

    35:00 Cost barriers and access to life-saving resources

    Dr. Emma's Links

    https://scholars.uab.edu/5926-emma-kay

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/emmasophiakay/

    SIS Links

    💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen

    📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email

    📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram

    🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast

    📸 Kathleen’s Instagram

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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    Why You Pour a Drink Before Hard Conversations — And How to Stop With Anna Lecat

    03/30/2026 | 45 mins.
    Conflict avoidance and people-pleasing show up in so many women's stories around alcohol — yet they rarely get the airtime they deserve. In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia and Kathleen sit down with Anna Lecat, intimacy and conflict consultant, global speaker, and author of Loving Conflict: Creating Collaboration Where Others See Division. Anna has spent decades across cultures, continents, and boardrooms persuading people that learning to conflict well is one of the most loving things we can offer each other.

    What does it actually mean to fight kindly? Why do so many women reach for a drink before a hard conversation — or avoid it entirely? And what is it about anger that feels so unbearable to sit with?

    Anna unpacks the tango metaphor at the heart of her work — conflict as tension plus connection, not threat plus danger. She walks through a practical spectrum for building conflict confidence, starting with low-stakes settings like restaurants and working up to the relationships that flood us most. The conversation explores emotional responsibility, nervous system regulation, and how early experiences with anger shape us as adults — often leading us to read conflict as rejection when it's really someone else's old wound surfacing.

    Then things get personal. Sonia opens up about pouring a glass of wine before calling her mother — and how that glass became a bottle. Kathleen shares her own story of returning to her hairdresser with honest, gentle feedback and what that small act revealed about the difference between avoiding conflict and moving through it with care.

    This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our Substack for extra tips, tricks, and resources.

    Highlights

    [00:01:00] Anna reframes conflict as a doorway rather than a threat

    [00:02:00] Her mission: persuading people to fight kindly

    [00:03:00] People who are deeply loved don't need to wage war

    [00:05:00] Connection and uplift extend beyond romance to friends, parents, and coworkers

    [00:06:00] Why women are socialized to avoid conflict

    [00:07:00] Conflict as a tango — listening, suggesting, responding in turn

    [00:08:00] Using nonverbal tango exercises in corporate workshops

    [00:11:00] Men in Beijing end up in tears during a two-minute eye contact meditation

    [00:13:00] Why sending food back at a restaurant is the perfect place to start

    [00:14:00] "If you think you're enlightened, go spend a week with your parents"

    [00:15:00] Kathleen's hairdresser story becomes a master class in kind conflict

    [00:18:00] Sonia's glass of wine before calling her mother — and how it became a bottle

    [00:20:00] Why anger is the most stigmatized emotion across every culture

    [00:21:00] Anger reveals a person's deepest fears and values — slow down and listen

    [00:22:00] How Anna navigates her own anger — consent first, then curiosity

    [00:27:00] It only takes one person to shift the dynamic of a relationship

    [00:29:00] People-pleasing as a conflict strategy — and how to tell it from self-protection

    [00:33:00] Practice conflict in low-stakes settings before the ones that flood you

    [00:37:00] Anna's nightly practice: revisiting hard moments and calming her nervous system

    [00:43:00] Start small, start outside, get good at it. It becomes a superpower.

    Links:

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/1966629974

    https://annalecat.com/

    SIS Links

    💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen

    📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email

    📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram

    🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast

    📸 Kathleen’s Instagram

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
  • Sisters In Sobriety

    Why You Pour a Drink Before Hard Conversations — And How to Stop With Anna Lecat

    03/30/2026 | 45 mins.
    Conflict avoidance and people-pleasing show up in so many women's stories around alcohol — yet they rarely get the airtime they deserve. In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia and Kathleen sit down with Anna Lecat, intimacy and conflict consultant, global speaker, and author of Loving Conflict: Creating Collaboration Where Others See Division. Anna has spent decades across cultures, continents, and boardrooms persuading people that learning to conflict well is one of the most loving things we can offer each other.

    What does it actually mean to fight kindly? Why do so many women reach for a drink before a hard conversation — or avoid it entirely? And what is it about anger that feels so unbearable to sit with?

    Anna unpacks the tango metaphor at the heart of her work — conflict as tension plus connection, not threat plus danger. She walks through a practical spectrum for building conflict confidence, starting with low-stakes settings like restaurants and working up to the relationships that flood us most. The conversation explores emotional responsibility, nervous system regulation, and how early experiences with anger shape us as adults — often leading us to read conflict as rejection when it's really someone else's old wound surfacing.

    Then things get personal. Sonia opens up about pouring a glass of wine before calling her mother — and how that glass became a bottle. Kathleen shares her own story of returning to her hairdresser with honest, gentle feedback and what that small act revealed about the difference between avoiding conflict and moving through it with care.

    This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our Substack for extra tips, tricks, and resources.

    Highlights
    [00:01:00] Anna reframes conflict as a doorway rather than a threat
    [00:02:00] Her mission: persuading people to fight kindly
    [00:03:00] People who are deeply loved don't need to wage war
    [00:05:00] Connection and uplift extend beyond romance to friends, parents, and coworkers
    [00:06:00] Why women are socialized to avoid conflict
    [00:07:00] Conflict as a tango — listening, suggesting, responding in turn
    [00:08:00] Using nonverbal tango exercises in corporate workshops
    [00:11:00] Men in Beijing end up in tears during a two-minute eye contact meditation
    [00:13:00] Why sending food back at a restaurant is the perfect place to start
    [00:14:00] "If you think you're enlightened, go spend a week with your parents"
    [00:15:00] Kathleen's hairdresser story becomes a master class in kind conflict
    [00:18:00] Sonia's glass of wine before calling her mother — and how it became a bottle
    [00:20:00] Why anger is the most stigmatized emotion across every culture
    [00:21:00] Anger reveals a person's deepest fears and values — slow down and listen
    [00:22:00] How Anna navigates her own anger — consent first, then curiosity
    [00:27:00] It only takes one person to shift the dynamic of a relationship
    [00:29:00] People-pleasing as a conflict strategy — and how to tell it from self-protection
    [00:33:00] Practice conflict in low-stakes settings before the ones that flood you
    [00:37:00] Anna's nightly practice: revisiting hard moments and calming her nervous system
    [00:43:00] Start small, start outside, get good at it. It becomes a superpower.

    Links:
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/1966629974
    https://annalecat.com/

    SIS Links
    💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen
    📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email
    📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram
    🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast
    📸 Kathleen’s Instagram
    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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About Sisters In Sobriety

You know that sinking feeling when you wake up with a hangover and think: “I’m never doing this again”? We’ve all been there. But what happens when you follow through? Sonia Kahlon and Kathleen Killen can tell you, because they did it! They went from sisters-in-law, to Sisters in Sobriety. In this podcast, Sonia and Kathleen invite you into their world, as they navigate the ups and downs of sobriety, explore stories of personal growth and share their journey of wellness and recovery. Get ready for some real, honest conversations about sobriety, addiction, and everything in between. Episodes will cover topics such as: reaching emotional sobriety, how to make the decision to get sober, adopting a more mindful lifestyle, socializing without alcohol, and much more. Whether you’re sober-curious, seeking inspiration and self-care through sobriety, or embracing the alcohol-free lifestyle already… Tune in for a weekly dose of vulnerability, mutual support and much needed comic relief. Together...
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