Sisters In Sobriety

What happens when the drinking stops but the anger stays? Sonia welcomes Zach Brittle, LMHC, Certified Gottman Therapist, Relational Life Therapist, and host of Marriage Therapy Radio.

Why can resentment linger after quitting alcohol? How can someone take responsibility without taking all the blame? What happens when partners get sober at different times? Sonia and Zach explore recovery, relationship boundaries, and rebuilding trust beyond counting drinks or sober days.

Zach explains his approach to the “wise adult,” pausing before reacting, and playing the movie forward. He describes how Relational Life Therapy connects self-esteem, boundaries, and intimacy, and why having communication tools differs from being ready to use them. Sonia also asks about the difference between celebrating recovery and becoming overconfident.

From asking for help during the pandemic to confronting longstanding resentment, Zach shares the experiences behind his recovery. An unforgettable Christmas tree stand, a frustrating gas-station queue, and his and Rebecca’s different paths to sobriety reveal how change has reshaped their marriage and parenting.

This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources.

Zach’s Links

Website

Instagram

Marriage Therapy Radio

SIS Links

💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen
📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email
📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram
🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast
📸 Kathleen’s Instagram

Episode Highlights

00:00 — Introducing Zach Brittle
02:00 — Recovery beyond alcohol
04:00 — Recognizing personal relapse risks
08:00 — Drinking escalates during COVID
10:00 — Asking for a sponsor’s help
13:00 — Taking inventory of resentment
15:00 — Owning his anger without alcohol
18:00 — Responsibility versus self-blame
20:00 — Anger in the gas-station queue
22:00 — The pause that creates choice
25:00 — Playing the movie forward
27:00 — Recovery becomes a new way of living
29:00 — A milestone tests his sobriety
33:00 — Why tools alone aren’t enough
35:00 — Self-esteem, boundaries, and intimacy
40:00 — Partners on different recovery paths
46:00 — Setting relationship boundaries
47:00 — Alcohol’s impact beyond drink counts
49:00 — Connection, fun, and life after drinking
56:00 — Modeling recovery for adult children

On Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia welcomes relationship coach, author, and podcast host Monica Tanner to explore conflict, emotional safety, and intimacy when alcohol is no longer the escape hatch. Together, they explore how to ask for support, navigate difficult conversations, and reconnect through change.

Does “never go to bed angry” actually help? When does communication become criticism? What happens when drinking or scrolling becomes a way to disappear during conflict? Sonia and Monica explore resentment, sober relationships, and talking about sex without turning the conversation into a performance.

Monica introduces relational life therapy concepts, including protective childhood patterns, the emotional “whoosh,” and choosing a response with greater awareness. She shares examples of clear requests, healthy boundaries, side-by-side intimacy conversations, and small routines that create space for connection.

Monica also shares how her parents’ divorce shaped her interest in relationships, why late-night arguments brought up fears of abandonment, and how a simple request for reassurance changed those moments in her marriage. Her son’s approaching wedding became the inspiration for her book.

This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources.

Monica’s Links

🌐 Monica Tanner’s Website
🎙️ Secrets of Happily Ever After Podcast
📖 Bad Marriage Advice

SIS Links

💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen
📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email
📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram
🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast
📸 Kathleen’s Instagram

Timestamped Highlights

01:00 — Meet relationship coach Monica Tanner.
02:00 — The divorce that reshaped her idea of marriage.
04:00 — Rethinking “never go to bed angry.”
06:00 — Asking for reassurance before taking a break.
08:00 — Relationship maintenance before a crisis.
11:00 — Why conflict can block familiar communication skills.
14:00 — Recognizing protective patterns and boundaries.
16:00 — Teaching a partner how to love you well.
18:00 — Small requests before resentment builds.
20:00 — Asking for listening instead of solutions.
23:00 — Making requests without criticism.
25:00 — Withdrawal, fawning, and old survival strategies.
26:00 — Sonia on alcohol, conflict, and getting sober.
28:00 — Withdrawing in plain sight.
30:00 — Pausing during the emotional “whoosh.”
34:00 — Making space for conversations about sex.
38:00 — Exploring a broader definition of intimacy.
41:00 — When deeper relationship problems need help first.
45:00 — Monica’s routines for regular connection.
46:00 — Couples work, intensives, and closing reflections.

In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia explores the invisible work adult daughters perform to keep families connected. With communication scholar, Baylor professor and Good Daughtering author Dr. Allison M. Alford. Dr. Alford helps women recognize how family roles can shape self-worth, perfectionism, resentment and coping.

Why are daughters so often expected to organize, anticipate needs and smooth over conflict? How do culture, birth order and family expectations influence daughtering? And why can a son receive enormous praise for a small gesture while a daughter feels she is always falling short?

Dr. Alford defines daughtering as the mental, emotional, logistical and identity work daughters do for their families. She explains how to make that labor visible, establish boundaries without turning them into ultimatums, distinguish venting from rumination and replace impossible A+ expectations with a sustainable B+ standard.

She also shares how her own family relationships changed when she stopped building connection around complaints and enlisted her husband, children and sister in creating new conversation patterns. Her message is simple: every woman is already a good-enough daughter and has agency in deciding how that role will fit into her life.

This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources.

Dr. Alford’s Links

🌐 Daughtering 101 Website
📕 Good Daughtering
📸 Instagram

SIS Links

💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen
📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email
📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram
🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast
📸 Kathleen’s Instagram

Timestamped Highlights
01:00 — Dr. Allison Alford introduces her work on daughtering
05:00 — Defining the overlooked cost of being a good daughter
07:00 — Why women’s caring roles are so often called mothering
10:00 — Honoring daughterhood as a distinct part of identity
12:00 — Choosing how fully to show up in family roles
14:00 — Daughters as the behind-the-scenes family CEOs
16:00 — How daughter conditioning develops from childhood
18:00 — Why sons receive praise for exceeding lower expectations
22:00 — Culture, geography and privilege shape daughtering
24:00 — The unspoken rules daughters are expected to follow
27:00 — How impossible standards create a fog of failure
30:00 — Creating a personal B+ daughter rubric
32:00 — The relationship between resentment and self-abandonment
34:00 — Boundaries as fences around emotional and physical space
36:00 — Recognizing when family venting becomes rumination
38:00 — Communicating a boundary once—and following through
40:00 — Making invisible daughtering labor visible
43:00 — Building a Plan B for healthier family conversations
46:00 — Eldest and only daughters face distinct pressures
50:00 — Every daughter gets to decide what “good enough” means

In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia explores the connection between sobriety, creativity, and reinvention with Kerri Maher, the USA Today bestselling author of The Paris Bookseller and The Kennedy Debutante. Kerri discusses her four years of sobriety and her deeply personal new novel, Summer of Love, set in California and centered on addiction, family, recovery, and hope.

What happens when someone’s drinking does not produce a cinematic rock bottom, but no longer feels sustainable? How can people find recovery support outside traditional 12-step programs? Sonia and Kerri discuss sober identity, online community, emotional sobriety, belonging, and the many different paths people can take toward changing their relationship with alcohol.

Kerri explains how The Luckiest Club helped her find her people, why sobriety and writing are both daily practices, and how greater clarity changed her creative and professional decisions. She also shares how The Artist’s Way, morning pages, artist dates, and an “adjacent art” with no pressure attached helped her develop Summer of Love.

Kerri’s story reveals a quieter, joyful vision of recovery: clear mornings, renewed confidence, richer emotions, and the freedom to experience places such as Napa beyond their drinking culture. She also reflects on generational addiction, “good girl” identity, sober travel, and writing a novel that allows recovery to be hopeful rather than punishing.

This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources.

Kerri’s Links

📚 Summer of Love
📸 Instagram: @kerrimaherwriter

SIS Links

💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen
📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email
📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram
🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast
📸 Kathleen’s Instagram

Timestamped Highlights
01:00 — Kerri introduces her sobriety and Summer of Love
04:00 — The small moments that made Kerri question her drinking
05:00 — An early 15-to-18-month period without alcohol
08:00 — How The Luckiest Club began and became Kerri’s community
10:00 — Finding accessible support during the sandwich-generation years
14:00 — Is recovery’s “special sauce” the program or the community?
17:00 — Emotional sobriety, anger management, and continued inner work
19:00 — Writing and sobriety as practices built through repetition
21:00 — How alcohol created subtle brain fog without stopping productivity
26:00 — The personal origins of Summer of Love
28:00 — Morning pages bring the book’s characters and plot together
31:00 — Watercolor play as relaxing, pressure-free creativity
33:00 — Writing about recovery as joyful rather than punishing
35:00 — Clear mornings and dependable presence as everyday sober joy
43:00 — Exploring generational patterns of addiction
46:00 — Looking beyond wine culture in Napa Valley
49:00 — Rediscovering California through food, landscape, and connection
53:00 — Sober travel and experiencing mornings without a hangover
54:00 — Kerri’s message to sober and sober-curious readers
55:00 — Closing the conversation

On this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia explores how alcohol-free drinks can become meaningful rituals rather than consolation prizes with bestselling author and mixologist Julia Halina Hadas, whose book Mystical Mocktails combines zero-proof recipes with intention, connection and everyday magic.

What makes a mocktail feel complete? How can flavor, aroma, temperature and glassware change the experience? Julia explains why people often seek more than alcohol from a drink—and how a thoughtfully made alternative can offer beauty, pleasure and social connection without the buzz.

The conversation covers practical building blocks such as citrus, sweeteners, tea, coconut water, herbs, spices and garnishes. Julia shares how mint can suggest renewal, maple and black tea can feel grounding, and rose can represent connection. She also explains how to prevent watery tea-based drinks, balance sweetness and acidity, order creatively at a bar and pair affirmations with the physical act of drinking.

Julia also reflects on pregnancy, her husband’s sobriety and the importance of recognizing when alcohol-removed products feel triggering. She shares how creating her Rose of Remembrance recipe unexpectedly helped her process grief following her father’s death—showing how an intentional drink can hold memory, emotion and healing.

This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our substack for extra tips, tricks and resources.

Julia’s Links
Website: WitchCraft Cocktails
Instagram: @witchcraftcocktail
Book: Mystical Mocktails

SIS Links
💌 Sisters In Sobriety Substack – where the magic (and the mocktail recipes) happen
📬 Sisters In Sobriety Email
📸 Sisters In Sobriety Instagram
🌐 Kathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast
📸 Kathleen’s Instagram

Timestamped highlights
01:00 — Meet bestselling author and mixologist Julia Halina Hadas
02:00 — Making zero-proof drinks before nonalcoholic spirits were widely available
04:00 — Seeking connection and a change in feeling through drinks
06:00 — Bringing herbs and intention into mixology
07:00 — Magic, spirituality and reclaiming personal power
09:00 — Using maple and black tea to create a grounding drink
11:00 — The Rose of Remembrance recipe and processing grief
12:00 — Why yuzu can transform an alcohol-free drink
14:00 — How garnishes and aroma elevate the experience
17:00 — Mint, cucumber, strawberry, basil and rose as intentional ingredients
20:00 — Preventing tea-based mocktails from becoming watery
22:00 — Adding cardamom, cinnamon, nutmeg and clove
25:00 — The color-changing magic of butterfly pea flower
27:00 — Tea ceremonies, presence and the Jasmine Peace Potion
30:00 — Making drink preparation part of a personal ritual
32:00 — Why glassware can make an ordinary moment feel special
35:00 — The cup as a symbol of what a person welcomes into their life
39:00 — Pairing affirmations with the physical act of drinking
47:00 — How to order a more interesting mocktail at a bar
56:00 — Protecting sobriety when alcohol-removed drinks feel triggering