When life hurts, when the pressure is relentless, and when joy feels out of reach—what do you do? In today’s conversation, Jennie sits down with pastor, teacher, and author Chip Ingram to talk about what it really means to choose joy in the middle of pain, disappointment, and uncertainty. Chip shares his powerful personal story of chronic pain, loss, and the slow journey back to joy through Philippians 1.
You’ll walk away with a fresh perspective and four practical questions you can start asking right now to reset your focus, reframe your circumstances, and experience the kind of joy that doesn’t depend on everything going right.
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Chip’s brand-new book, I Choose Joy, releases June 3rd and is available wherever books are sold. — Order here!
Jennie's newest kids book is NOW AVAILABLE!
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How to Help Kids (and Yourself) When Anxiety Takes Over
Today we’re talking about something so many of us are facing — how to help our kids when their minds are spinning with worry, fear, and big emotions.
It’s actually perfect timing because my newest kids’ book, based on Get Out Of Your Head, is now available — What To Do With Your Whirly, Swirly Thoughts— and it’s all about giving kids (and ourselves) simple tools to name their feelings and find peace when their thoughts feel out of control. Jennie shares practical, hope-filled ways to help kids navigate fear, build resilience, and anchor their hearts in God’s truth.
So whether you’re a parent, an aunt, a coach, a teacher — this conversation is for you. Let’s dive into what to say, what to do, and how to anchor our kids (and ourselves) in truth when anxiety tries to take over.
Get a copy of What To Do With Your Whirly, Swirly Thoughts today and leave a review - we'd love to know what your family thinks about the book ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️!
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How To Love Reading Your Bible Again with David Platt
In today’s episode, Jennie sits down with longtime friend, pastor, and author David Platt to talk about a simple, powerful way to study your Bible. David shares how his life was changed by time with the underground church—and how their hunger for the Word led to what is now Secret Church, a global simulcast Bible study attended by tens of thousands each year.
David also unpacks the method behind his new book, How to Read the Bible: A Simple Guide to Deeper Intimacy with God, introducing a four-part framework to help you engage Scripture in a way that’s personal, transformative, and deeply rooted in truth. Whether you’re new to Bible study or looking to reignite your time in the Word, this episode will give you clarity, encouragement, and a fresh passion to draw near to God.
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📖 How to Read the Bible by David Platt — Order here!
🎥 Watch Secret Church — secretchurch.org
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Stuck
Do you ever feel stuck in the same struggles — like real change just isn’t possible? In this episode, Jennie invites us to take a hard look at what we believe about the Holy Spirit and the supernatural power of God. Many of us have grown too comfortable in our sin, naming it but not fighting it. But Scripture promises us something more: clarity, freedom, and power through the Holy Spirit. Jennie unpacks how to recognize spiritual bondage, how to stop grieving the Spirit, and how to actually walk in the freedom Jesus offers. You’ll leave this episode reminded that you’re not powerless — and you’re not stuck.
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If Love Feels Exhausting - You Need to Hear This with Jada Edwards
We all know we’re supposed to love people, but what happens when they hurt, disagree, or drive us crazy? Jennie sits down with her friend, Jada Edwards, to talk about what it really looks like to love your neighbor from the inside out. Jada shares about the personal conviction that led to her new book A New Way to Love Your Neighbor — a call to love people with kindness, humility, grace, and truth that starts in your heart.
Don't miss this conversation and grab a copy of Jada's debut book (out April 22) - A New Way to Love Your Neighbor!
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Jennie Allen is the 2x New York Times bestselling author of 'Find Your People' and 'Get Out Of Your Head'. She is also the founder and visionary of IF:Gathering. She is a passionate leader following God's call on her life to catalyze a generation to live what they believe. Jennie has a Masters in Biblical Studies from Dallas Theological Seminary and lives in Dallas, Texas, with her husband, Zac, and their four children. ________ SHORT. FUN. TRUTH. REAL CONVERSATION ABOUT THE STRUGGLES WE ARE FACING AND THE GOD THAT SETS US FREE. Two episodes release each week - one episode of Jennie teaching and one interview.