Lizness School

Side Quests are a key pillar of Lizness School. Today on Season 2 Episode 20, 3 listeners share their side quest stories with us. Thank you to Corey DuBrowa, Mary Warwick and Tara James.
More on Corey's music writing:
Corey's current book “An Ideal For Living” https://hozacrecords.com/product/aifl/
Fast Company, Corey in “day gig” mode: https://www.fastcompany.com/user/coreydubrowa
Rolling Stone, the most clicked-upon thing he's written in the music world:https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/live-report-north-by-northwest-110891/
Corey's new book coming out Spring 2026 is "Twelve Tunes From Urban Bohemia: Portland's Musical History in Song"

For more on Mary's stand-up comedy, go here: https://www.marywarwickcomedy.com/
More on Mary Warwick at Erma Bombeck's Writer's Workshop

If you want to connect with Tara James about her vision to provide free college counseling to high school students who need it, email us at [email protected] and we will forward.
We are still interested in YOUR side quests, so email us with the deets! Voice memos are welcome, too. [email protected]

THANK YOU to our podcast sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union.
To use their $625 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness

If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows.
Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland.
To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here.
For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠
For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠
Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠
On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠.
Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn.
To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]
The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠
Email the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] ⁠

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On today's Lizness School, we hear two stories from listeners whose big transitions were not by choice. First we talk to Kathy Douglass, who lost her husband Ron last fall. Since then, she's sold or packed or shipped everything and moved from Minnesota to a town in France she'd never even visited before. Then Liz reads from a message from Doris Matter, who shares what her life as a widow is like on what would have been her 50th wedding anniversary. There's no right way to adjust to losing a partner. There's only your way. Email us about your experience with a life-changing transition at [email protected].
Also today, update from Leah who ran her half marathon! Woo hoo! And an advance look at the next few episodes including our special Side Quests episode coming up next.

Sponsor:
THANK YOU to our podcast sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union.
To use their $625 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness

If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows.
Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland.
To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here.
For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠
For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠
Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠
On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠.
Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn.
To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]
The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠
Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] ⁠

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today Liz and Leah refresh the big themes of Season 2 and refire their specific goals for the Spring Quarter of Lizness School. Time to FINISH STRONG. Plus, another call-out for listeners who want to share their own Side Quests on the podcast.
Email us at [email protected]. Send Voice Memos if you can!
Today we discuss two big themes and the podcast guests who helped us develop them. Relisten to the episodes linked below.
Refirement: Excavating your heart and mind for goals, desires, wishes, and then setting clear benchmarks as you work toward those goals, desires, wishes. REFIREMENT works for anyone coming out of a transition who needs to get fired up about your life.

Julie Dolan
Lee Weinstein
Katie Connor
John Evans
Kira Dales
Gretchen Rubin

Intergenerational exchange: Learning and sharing across generational lines
Roberta Katz
Jim Chi
Phil Pizzo
Lian Dolan

Sponsor:
THANK YOU to our podcast sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union.
To use their $625 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness

Special Bonus instead of Homework: A link to Leah's astrologer Chani.

If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows.
Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland.
To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here.
For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠
For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠
Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠
On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠.
Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn.
To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]
The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠
Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] ⁠

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

On today's episode, Lee Weinstein talks to Liz and Leah about how to think about creating an Intentional Life Plan. It starts with some digging. Ask yourself the big questions. Get yourself some craft paper + sticky notes. Go! See more on the process in Lee + Melinda's Workbook here. Look at a Life Plan here. More on Lee here.

Also on this week's episode, we put out a LIZNESS SCHOOL CASTING CALL.
Lizness School is looking for listeners who are working on a SIDE QUEST.
We want to talk to you about it. It can be anything that is engaging you - creative project, community effort, long term plan, one-off adventure. Solo or group. You name it. What is your quest?
Tell us about it! Email us at [email protected] or DM us on Instagram @liznessschool. Voice Memos encouraged! .

Sponsor:
Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union.
To use their $625 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness

HOMEWORK:
Step One: Uncover Your Life Wishes!
Have a conversation about some of Lee's preliminary questions to kick off your own Intentional Life Planning.
Lee also recommends you check out Bruce Feiler's book Life Is In The Transitions: Mastering Change At Any Age.

If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows.
Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland.
To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here.
For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠
For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠
Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠
On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠.
Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn.
To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]
The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠
Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] ⁠

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today's guest is Roberta Katz, senior research scholar at the Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences at Stanford. She is the author of the book Gen Z, Explained and was Liz's advisor during her year at Stanford's Distinguished Careers Institute. Roberta holds a PhD in anthropology as well as a law degree, and was previously the General Counsel of McCaw Cellular Corporation (now AT&T Wireless) and then of Netscape Corporation. From 2004 to 2017, she served under Stanford University Presidents John Hennessy and Marc Tessier-Lavigne as the Associate Vice president for Strategic Planning at Stanford.

Sponsor:
Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union.
To use their $625 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness

HOMEWORK:
For more on Roberta Katz and her research on Gen Z, here are links to her book and a couple of podcast interviews:
Book: GenZ Explained - The Art of Living in a Digital Age by Roberta Katz, Sarah Ogilvie, Jane Shaw and Linda Woodhead
Podcast Interview: 4 Quarter Lives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8r7TNxyxw4
The Minor Consult from Stanford Medicine

Intergenerational anthropological field work recommended by Leah!

Talk to a Gen Z or Millennial in your life, ask them what’s going on and how they feel about it. Tell them about the upheavals that you remember from growing up and how you felt and how you processed.

Find an activity that occurs on a semi-regular basis that you can join, like a book club or art class or whatever, that puts you around folks of all ages.

If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows.
Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland.
To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here.
For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠
For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠
Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠
On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠.
Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn.
To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]
The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠
Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] ⁠

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.